Sakho suspended by Liverpool

[Danners9]

I'm surprised he tested positive in March and was still playing until recently. Unless, of course, he appealed and it delayed the whole thing. Same issue happened in Baseball this week.

Chris Colabello of the Toronto Blue Jays has been suspended for 80 games - half the season. He tested positive on March 13, was suspended Friday just gone. Delayed because of an appeal process. He is distraught about it all and says he hasn't ever cheated.. anyway...

Sakho's test came after a Europa League game, so he should be banned for the usual amount - 6 months, like Kolo - and Liverpool kicked out of that competition. Same as the Zagreb lad was.

 

[E.L.Strict]

I find it hard to believe there's doping and fixing on a widespread basis, if there is it has to be on an individual basis, clubs can't be systematically doping a squad of players without any single player eventually going public.

Personally I believe that quite a large proportion of doping that does go on happens without the player's knowledge. At the end of the day, players aren't scientists, and if they are being told that they are receiving a vitamin injection, or that they have to get their blood spun, I'm sure they don't know enough to claim differently. Both methods are fairly common in football, and both can easily be used to deliver PEDs.

In terms of people going public, in this respect they have done, and probably will continue to do so. Have a look at the cases here http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/english-football/115815-doping-football-fifty-years-evidence.html , there are quite a few that fit the above template. Personally I think that even if a player suspected he was being doped, he wouldn't be able to say what the substance was, or what the effects were, or even provide an explanation of how the doping was done that couldn't also be seen as something legitimate, like shakes, or vitamin injections etc.

Taking cycling as an example where doping was "professional," I've read that part of assembling a "backroom team" was hiring people who had connections to the drug testing groups for information on the whereabouts of testers, connections to the drug testing scientists for information on what tests were being developed, and connections to EPO dealers for obvious reasons. I don't see why this template wouldn't also apply to football. Systematic doping is very, very possible, and in my opinion almost certain to be going on at the very highest levels.

Are any of my fellow tinfoil hatters in the house? The only other premiership PED ban was for Abel Xavier at Middlesborough, and also happened in a UEFA match rather than a domestic one. Clearly there has always been a disparity between the testing done at home vs in Europe. This has got more severe this season as UEFA have introduced a biological passport system in the Champions League (not Europa League as far as I can see.) But the decline in form of all of our CL regulars is just a co-incidence right?

 

[Hazardousman]

Personally I believe that quite a large proportion of doping that does go on happens without the player's knowledge. At the end of the day, players aren't scientists, and if they are being told that they are receiving a vitamin injection, or that they have to get their blood spun, I'm sure they don't know enough to claim differently. Both methods are fairly common in football, and both can easily be used to deliver PEDs.

In terms of people going public, in this respect they have done, and probably will continue to do so. Have a look at the cases here http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/english-football/115815-doping-football-fifty-years-evidence.html , there are quite a few that fit the above template. Personally I think that even if a player suspected he was being doped, he wouldn't be able to say what the substance was, or what the effects were, or even provide an explanation of how the doping was done that couldn't also be seen as something legitimate, like shakes, or vitamin injections etc.

Taking cycling as an example where doping was "professional," I've read that part of assembling a "backroom team" was hiring people who had connections to the drug testing groups for information on the whereabouts of testers, connections to the drug testing scientists for information on what tests were being developed, and connections to EPO dealers for obvious reasons. I don't see why this template wouldn't also apply to football. Systematic doping is very, very possible, and in my opinion almost certain to be going on at the very highest levels.

Are any of my fellow tinfoil hatters in the house? The only other premiership PED ban was for Abel Xavier at Middlesborough, and also happened in a UEFA match rather than a domestic one. Clearly there has always been a disparity between the testing done at home vs in Europe. This has got more severe this season as UEFA have introduced a biological passport system in the Champions League (not Europa League as far as I can see.) But the decline in form of all of our CL regulars is just a co-incidence right?

Don't speak sense or I may have to make a hat for you.

 

[Danners9]

Sky Sports News HQ ‏@SkySportsNewsHQ 11s11 seconds ago
BREAKING NEWS: UEFA suspend Liverpool defender Mamadou Sakho for 30 days following doping violation


WHAT. 30 days?!

 

[etchedchaos]

It's a provisional suspension whilst they do hearings and whatnot, then they'll dole out his proper suspension.

 

[tobi]

The charges have been dismissed today, he only missed the Europa League final and the Euro's in his home country (he would have started too).

That sucks.

 

[Col_M]

The charges have been dismissed today, he only missed the Europa League final and the Euro's in his home country (he would have started too).

That sucks.

Dismissed ? He would have been retested ?

 

[tobi]

Dismissed ? He would have been retested ?

“The proceedings against Mr Sakho related to a violation of the Uefa anti-doping regulations after the player failed a doping test at the above-mentioned match. Following a hearing with the lawyers of the player and experts of the Wada-accredited laboratories on this case, the CEDB has decided to dismiss the case.”

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/jul/08/mamadou-sakho-liverpool-uefa-doping

 

[tiger666]

Open top bus parade in Liverpool planned

 

[Colonel_Klinck]

“The proceedings against Mr Sakho related to a violation of the Uefa anti-doping regulations after the player failed a doping test at the above-mentioned match. Following a hearing with the lawyers of the player and experts of the Wada-accredited laboratories on this case, the CEDB has decided to dismiss the case.”

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/jul/08/mamadou-sakho-liverpool-uefa-doping

Guess his lawyers found some reason to have it dismissed.

 

[Ribble]

I expect the result will be the removal of whatever it was he took from the list because it doesn't actually work.

 

[Syn_13]

The charges have been dismissed today, he only missed the Europa League final and the Euro's in his home country (he would have started too).

That sucks.

They weren't missing much having him out of the squad. He's not that good and a bit of a liability at times.

 

[tobi]

They weren't missing much having him out of the squad. He's not that good and a bit of a liability at times.

I agree but with Varane injured he was next in line.

He's comfortably better than Rami.