Salaries

[millsey]

Why can't we compete with the big clubs when it comes to transfers? Because we don't pay the wages. Why did Mane choose Liverpool? Because they pay him 150k a week he choose a non champs league club. Salarys are a huge part in getting a player

 

[Lighty64]

Why can't we compete with the big clubs when it comes to transfers? Because we don't pay the wages. Why did Mane choose Liverpool? Because they pay him 150k a week he choose a non champs league club. Salarys are a huge part in getting a player

let me help you out here millsey

1, we are funding a new developement, and have been doing so for a good few years, and taken a massive knock due to brexit

2, our old stadium's income doesn't match the 5 teams above us in the money list, and even more restricted last season with knocking our attendance down by 4k each match = £160k x 19 = £304k (going by £40 per seat) without loss of merchandise, and everything else that goes with it.

3, also our worldwide status is below them in financial terms, mainly due to recent success Chelsea, Man C and being owned by money men, Man Utd because they have always had a massive stadium and a massive following which goes back to the days before the Munich air disaster + 20 years of continuous success. Liverpool because of their history of winning 19 titles, and 5 European/CL Cups

4, if we signed Mane and paid him £150k a week, the rest of our squad would of required some parity, meaning our wage bill would of doubled, which means we wouldn't be within the FFP rules.

hope this helps even though I know your question it, but hey ho

 

[Sid Tottenham]

I refuse to believe Danny Rose is on 30k
Cmon that can't be right?
No way, unless his agent is a complete moron.
Picture the scene Levys like ok I got an appointment with Danny and his agent they want more money I'll lowball them and they'll accept a decent offer
Daniels like 30k a week and his agent goes done....wtf was he on before? To accept that?
Danny rose if you're reading this pm me bro id get you at least double that.
I'll wave my fee honestly your agents a simpleton
Must be bs

 

[tiger666]

I refuse to believe Danny Rose is on 30k
Cmon that can't be right?

It isn't right, but somewhere on the internet says it is so some people use it to back up their agendas.

 

[Sid Tottenham]

It isn't right, but somewhere on the internet says it is so some people use it to back up their agendas.

Yeah no way

 

[BringBack_leGin]

Why can't we compete with the big clubs when it comes to transfers? Because we don't pay the wages. Why did Mane choose Liverpool? Because they pay him 150k a week he choose a non champs league club. Salarys are a huge part in getting a player

So would you prefer we'd paid £100m combined for Sterling and Stones and given them 6 figure per week salaries, or cleverly scouted Dier and Dele, paid £9m and given them reasonable salaries?

 

[Kiedis]

Looking at the clubs development in the last 15 years, I'm almost inclined to believe that the people running things generally know what the fuck they're doing.

 

[millsey]

let me help you out here millsey

1, we are funding a new developement, and have been doing so for a good few years, and taken a massive knock due to brexit

2, our old stadium's income doesn't match the 5 teams above us in the money list, and even more restricted last season with knocking our attendance down by 4k each match = £160k x 19 = £304k (going by £40 per seat) without loss of merchandise, and everything else that goes with it.

3, also our worldwide status is below them in financial terms, mainly due to recent success Chelsea, Man C and being owned by money men, Man Utd because they have always had a massive stadium and a massive following which goes back to the days before the Munich air disaster + 20 years of continuous success. Liverpool because of their history of winning 19 titles, and 5 European/CL Cups

4, if we signed Mane and paid him £150k a week, the rest of our squad would of required some parity, meaning our wage bill would of doubled, which means we wouldn't be within the FFP rules.

hope this helps even though I know your question it, but hey ho

I think you've missed the point of the whole thread..... the question isn't why can't we pay higher salaries. The question was do players pick money first. I'm saying a huge proportion do

 

[quackers]

I think you've missed the point of the whole thread..... the question isn't why can't we pay higher salaries. The question was do players pick money first. I'm saying a huge proportion do

They do when they sign for stoke, spam, west brom etc. Mid table but a great wedge to be earnt,

 

[Lighty64]

I think you've missed the point of the whole thread..... the question isn't why can't we pay higher salaries. The question was do players pick money first. I'm saying a huge proportion do

I answered your question and the teams that can out do higher wages also have a better chance of winning things, except Liverpool at the moment. Though Mane and Winjaldom (sp) chose them over us due to wages, but might also of had the extra factor in that Liverpool had been involved in 2 cup finals the season before, so might of felt they where joining a team that looked like it might be on the up, with Klopp in there too.

The thing is when they were asked why they chose Liverpool over us, the reporter most probably left some details out.

 

[Mullers]

Why can't we compete with the big clubs when it comes to transfers? Because we don't pay the wages. Why did Mane choose Liverpool? Because they pay him 150k a week he choose a non champs league club. Salarys are a huge part in getting a player

We finished 2nd and Liverpool finished 4th though and we didn't need to pay huge wages to get to that position.

 

[millsey]

We finished 2nd and Liverpool finished 4th though and we didn't need to pay huge wages to get to that position.

Again missing the entire point. The argument is do most players find money a huge factor in football

 

[tiger666]

I think you've missed the point of the whole thread..... the question isn't why can't we pay higher salaries. The question was do players pick money first.

That's not what I'm getting from the original post.

If this team breaks up because of not paying players like Walker and Rose parity with players like Son who is on £85k a week then Levy needs to be held to account. I am not having it that because of the new stadium we can`t pay better wages than West Ham and Crystal Palace. We have waited years to be in a position to challenge and to see it fade away because of lack of ambition and trying to be a smart business negotiator would be heart breaking.

 

[thekneaf]

Again missing the entire point. The argument is do most players find money a huge favour in football

Of course money is a factor. It could even be argued that not paying massive wages has helped us weed out journeymen who won't put the graft in.

I agree that money talks in football, as it does in any industry. We already have a club with an enviable set up. Players will certainly already view us as a place where there is an excellent atmosphere, a place that seems fun, a place that hard work is rewarded. Our only downside is our lack of prestige [currently] and we cannot offer top top wages. I believe that players will begin to be signed up to these wages over the coming 24 months. By the time we play in the new stadium I expect Kane to be on 180k a week at least and these wages arguments will be put to bed.

What we can only hope is that the league actually apply FFP regs, and not allow City to dope on illegal sponsorship deals and Chelsea to ignore in it. United rake in so much money I fear they will always be beyond us. They're global in a way we may never be - the darlings of the first bloom of the PL era. Liverpool and Arsenal we can 100% compete with once in the new dev.

More than anything, wage increases like this need to be managed and planned so they are sustainable. I trust the club are doing that.

 

[Mullers]

Again missing the entire point. The argument is do most players find money a huge favour in football

Of course it's a huge favor but that's far from being the only reason otherwise we would see a lot more players playing in Russia, China and the Middle East.
Most players want to play not just collect their money by sitting on the bench, they want to win things. That's why we couldn't keep a world class player like Klinsmann and others like Bale and Modric.

 

[millsey]

Of course it's a huge favor but that's far from being the only reason otherwise we would see a lot more players playing in Russia, China and the Middle East.
Most players want to play not just collect their money by sitting on the bench, they want to win things. That's why we couldn't keep a world class player like Klinsmann and others like Bale and Modric.

Will we keep our current world class/almost world class players?

 

[whitesocks]

Will we keep our current world class/almost world class players?

No-one has shown themselves to be world class yet.
For that they need to make a mark internationally or in the champs league.
Bale and Modric were world class and even when nwhl is up to speed, players like them will be hard to keep as they can name their price.
But it is simply wrong that they might earn 400k a week while the younger players are earning less than a 1/10th of that.
Are they really 10X more important? I rather the players get their share of the TV bonanza than just the owners cashing in, but it should be distributed reasonably.

 

[millsey]

No-one has shown themselves to be world class yet.
For that they need to make a mark internationally or in the champs league.
Bale and Modric were world class and even when nwhl is up to speed, players like them will be hard to keep as they can name their price.
But it is simply wrong that they might earn 400k a week while the younger players are earning less than a 1/10th of that.
Are they really 10X more important? I rather the players get their share of the TV bonanza than just the owners cashing in, but it should be distributed reasonably.

Finally a sensible discussion about it

 

[Mullers]

Will we keep our current world class/almost world class players?

I truly believe that no one will be leaving this season unless Poch and Levy are happy for them to leave.

 

[Mullers]

Finally a sensible discussion about it

The reason why people have given out so much flak is because the claims that the OP made about players wages are not backed with a shred of evidence.