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Sandro 'likely' to leave Spurs; Napoli a possible destination

dagraham

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I wouldn't be too surprised to see Sandro go and Shneiderlein join.

Would be typical of Spurs. We have one of the best DM in the game and a very able deputy in Capoue.

Yet we have an ageing back line, no decent LB, no real midfield playmaker, not enough intelligence in the final third and a striker who's not suited to the PL.

So what do we do? Buy a DM.
 
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HildoSpur

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Sandro should still be one of the first names on the team sheet imo, he is still a young guy - bags of potential and is proven at the highest level. The guy can be a legend here and is already loved by the fans. He has been unlucky with injuries and that is the only worry I have with him - if he can stay fit then he is a top class - possibly world class player in the type of position he plays. To sell him would be total madness and I would be gutted.
 

whitesocks

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Brazilians & Argentines do not mix on the football field. It's just the way it goes. Too much bad blood between the two nations. Look at the way Tevez is treated by his National Team, because many years ago he chose to play for Corinthians. Things like that are never forgiven. Would not be surprised to see both Sandro & Paulinho leave this summer. Gomes had already left before the news broke on Poch, although his contract at Spurs was already up.

True, but you would expect a supposedly top quality manager to put those negative urges to one side.
Sandro of course may feel differently, and in any case, sadly we may look to upgrade. He still does not look fit.
Paulinho plays the safe possession football that Poochie demands, so I feel he will be kept.

But sure, we can see by his selection of staff that Pooch favours Spanish speakers, so regardless of form I see Lamela and Soldado as automatic selections. This is not such good news for Adebayor (should he stay), Kane, or Eriksen.
I'm not so bothered about Adebayor, but if we piss Eriksen around, then I'm going to lose patience rapidly.
 

2bearis2do

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He really hasn't fulfilled his promise and potential at Spurs so far. He's sometimes reckless and headless, and too often cannot play in a way that protects him from injury. He is a ridiculously safe passer, and rarely gets beyond the ball these days, though that may be a side-effect of AVBs approach than anything else. Regardless, it usually means forward momentum ends when he gets the ball. He has a cult status among the fans, but a lot of that is bluster and personality rather than consistent performances week after week.

If he goes, it would be a shame, but he'd just be another drifter through spurs player history. Much like palacios, he was dramatically good at the outset, but seems to have lost his way a bit.

If he stays, it's really a big season for him. He's a copa libertadores winner, but he hasn't looked that for us. Maybe the new manager can provide new focus.
Sandro fell away last season due to an horrific injury and falling out of favor.
At his best he is a beast - would like to see him and Paulhino become the spine.
 

TottenhamMattSpur

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Sandro fell away last season due to an horrific injury and falling out of favor.
At his best he is a beast - would like to see him and Paulhino become the spine.
This prospect exites me. With roles for each they could run our midfield with the more subtle creative players around them.
 

walton

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I'd lay the blame solely at AVB's door. His stifling restrictive tactics strangled every ounce of attacking flair last season. I'm still amazed he let bale do what he wanted.

Yet he did let Bale 'do what he wanted', and in the process allow him to realise is potential as one of the finest attacking players in the world. Not bad for someone with 'stifling restrictive tactics'.
 

billnick

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Brazilians & Argentines do not mix on the football field. It's just the way it goes. Too much bad blood between the two nations. Look at the way Tevez is treated by his National Team, because many years ago he chose to play for Corinthians. Things like that are never forgiven. Would not be surprised to see both Sandro & Paulinho leave this summer. Gomes had already left before the news broke on Poch, although his contract at Spurs was already up.

This couldn't really be more wrong, could it? Tevez has played for the national side plenty of times since playing for Corinthians, he's missing out on the world cup more down to lack of success alongside Messi than anything.
The Brazilian league has a lot of Argentines playing in it, too. Actually the Inter side which won the Libertadores with Sandro also had D'Alessandro and Guiñazu as starters, and Abbondanzieri as substitute goalkeeper
César, Maicon, Lúcio, Samuel, Zanetti, Cambiasso and Milito won the Champions League at Inter. Barcelona haven't fared too badly either.
And travelling between the two nations regularly you see more good natured piss taking than anything. In fact, at any Atlético Mineiro game you'll see a lot of Estudiantes La Plata shirts in the crowd.
 

tottenham28

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Sherwood almost single handidly ruined his world cup chances and now he may have lost us our most solid midfielder, I'd be gutted to see him go and I really hope this is just journo bull...

Dembele worries the hell out of me, we have a top player who holds the ball superbly, sometimes too long I agree but how often did he complete 90 minutes last season?
I seem to recall him leaving the pitch at around 60 or 70 minutes every other game or not even being available for selection at all, sadly, that's not good enough to build a top team, with him as part of a stable backbone within it.
 

TottenhamMattSpur

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Yet he did let Bale 'do what he wanted', and in the process allow him to realise is potential as one of the finest attacking players in the world. Not bad for someone with 'stifling restrictive tactics'.
I suppose that makes him a tactical genius :ROFLMAO:
 

Gaz_Gammon

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If Pochettino can get the intensity back in our game, letting Sandro go will be a big mistake. He seemed to lose a lot of motivation, especially with Sherwood, and his game suffered. On his day he is an awesome player who wins a ridiculous amount of tackles (cleanly). A fired up Sandro would be a cornerstone of a strong season.


On his day he is good. But his fitness should be a major concern to the new Coach. Playing fifteen games last season and out injured the season before cannot make up for his play when fit. King was similar and we cannot afford to have a squad player unavailable for half a season.
 

chinaman

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Just a few days ago, there was something about Sandro confirming he's not leaving.
 

Gaz_Gammon

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Sherwood almost single handidly ruined his world cup chances and now he may have lost us our most solid midfielder, I'd be gutted to see him go and I really hope this is just journo bull...

Dembele worries the hell out of me, we have a top player who holds the ball superbly, sometimes too long I agree but how often did he complete 90 minutes last season?
I seem to recall him leaving the pitch at around 60 or 70 minutes every other game or not even being available for selection at all, sadly, that's not good enough to build a top team, with him as part of a stable backbone within it.


Bullshit.

Whatever you think of Sherwood, Sandro was (and has been) injured far too much over the past TWO seasons. His playing time was limited again this season mainly due to injury.

Your assumption on Dembele that: "I seem to recall him leaving the pitch at around 60 or 70 minutes every other game or not even being available for selection at all" is total bull as well.

Do you actually read what you are writing before posting?
 

Coyboy

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He really hasn't fulfilled his promise and potential at Spurs so far. He's sometimes reckless and headless, and too often cannot play in a way that protects him from injury. He is a ridiculously safe passer, and rarely gets beyond the ball these days, though that may be a side-effect of AVBs approach than anything else. Regardless, it usually means forward momentum ends when he gets the ball. He has a cult status among the fans, but a lot of that is bluster and personality rather than consistent performances week after week.

If he goes, it would be a shame, but he'd just be another drifter through spurs player history. Much like palacios, he was dramatically good at the outset, but seems to have lost his way a bit.

If he stays, it's really a big season for him. He's a copa libertadores winner, but he hasn't looked that for us. Maybe the new manager can provide new focus.

I don't agree. There isn't a better clean tackler in our squad or perhaps the league. He isn't Pirlo but then many great sides have a functional, conservative passer of the ball- what used to be called a number 5- to allow the more creative players to shine.

At his best, he is a fantastic asset to have. He can win the ball back anywhere on the pitch and the more he plays the more likely he will pop up with the odd screamer too. His partnership two seasons ago with Dembele was effective as it was complementary. For me very few other players will flourish in the high pressing game as much as Sandro.

His injury record over the last 18 months has been his downfall. That's something the physios and management will have to look into. I don't agree his social media persona is too relevant, other than it is good for any group of players to have an affable joker around but he is anything but on the pitch.

He wasn't even dramatically good when he first arrived. He was good showed promise and by the end of season 10/11 he was realising his potential.
 

Japhet

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On his day he is good. But his fitness should be a major concern to the new Coach. Playing fifteen games last season and out injured the season before cannot make up for his play when fit. King was similar and we cannot afford to have a squad player unavailable for half a season.

He missed quite a few games under Sherwood who preferred a centre midfield pairing who couldn't win a tackle to save their lives. Injuries have played a part, but so has team selection which at times was quite baffling.
 

tottenham28

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Bullshit.

Whatever you think of Sherwood, Sandro was (and has been) injured far too much over the past TWO seasons. His playing time was limited again this season mainly due to injury.

Your assumption on Dembele that: "I seem to recall him leaving the pitch at around 60 or 70 minutes every other game or not even being available for selection at all" is total bull as well.

Do you actually read what you are writing before posting?

Had a bad day again Gaz? missed you too ;)

Sherwood was also selecting a central midfield partnership that could not make a tackle, over Sandro who knows how to. The fact that this has also contributed to Sandro's lack of games, has obviously shot right over your head.
 

Gaz_Gammon

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Had a bad day again Gaz? missed you too ;)

Sherwood was also selecting a central midfield partnership that could not make a tackle, over Sandro who knows how to. The fact that this has also contributed to Sandro's lack of games, has obviously shot right over your head.


He picked a midfield that took us to within three points of last seasons total. FACT. No assumptions, guesswork, or indeed bullshit. To say that whoever was picked in midfield "could not make a tackle" is stupid, naive and derogatory to the players we have at the club.

Was Sherwood my choice as a manager, no, but he did what he did with or without a injured or whining Sandro.
 

grittyspur1

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This couldn't really be more wrong, could it? Tevez has played for the national side plenty of times since playing for Corinthians, he's missing out on the world cup more down to lack of success alongside Messi than anything.
The Brazilian league has a lot of Argentines playing in it, too. Actually the Inter side which won the Libertadores with Sandro also had D'Alessandro and Guiñazu as starters, and Abbondanzieri as substitute goalkeeper
César, Maicon, Lúcio, Samuel, Zanetti, Cambiasso and Milito won the Champions League at Inter. Barcelona haven't fared too badly either.
And travelling between the two nations regularly you see more good natured piss taking than anything. In fact, at any Atlético Mineiro game you'll see a lot of Estudiantes La Plata shirts in the crowd.

I get your point, billnick- but here's mine: Brazilians do not like to play for Argentine coaches. It hurts their pride. A bunch of mata rato shirts in the stands in Minas Gerias might be tolerated, but try that at the Morumbi or Maracana. You would be taking your life in your own hands! I know this from personal experience, being an Argentine who has spent a lot of time in Brazil. Perhaps my personal experience has prejudiced my opinion, but I doubt I'm not the only one.
 
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