Schneiderlin completes Man United medical

[Dharmabum]

Though purely hypothetical: if MS had joined Spurs last year, and Spurs still not gotten CL football but had a very good season....would he have jumped "ship" to join ManU if they had come in with a "substantial" offer...

 

[philip]

I'm happy with Bentaleb, Mason and Alli as three of our CM options and want a very experienced calm organiser as the fourth option. Someone like Carrick would be ideal.

 

[itsameeAntonio]

Man Utd are becoming a team to hate again. I used to at least admire them back in the Fergie days when they (comparatively) spent very little and bought good youngsters through. Now they are no different from Man City and Chelsea.

if not worse...

 

[whitesocks]

.... I'd have Carrick off them if he'd come.

Carrick is a thoughtful player - MP would not know what to do with him.

 

[double0]

I'm more than happy with what we have and what's coming through ....Veljkovic Carroll Onomah Winks Mason Bentaleb.

Mason and Bentaleb is a great partnership imo they will be much stronger this coming season.

 

[guate]

Dissapointing but not the end of the world

 

[TottenhamMattSpur]

Man Utd are becoming a team to hate again. I used to at least admire them back in the Fergie days when they (comparatively) spent very little and bought good youngsters through. Now they are no different from Man City and Chelsea.

Cantona, Pallister, Bruce, Schmeichel, Ferdinand, Rooney, Vidic, Staam, Berbatov, Carrick, Veron, Anderson, RVP, RVN, Cole,
All bought by Fergie to effectively buy silverware.

I don't care where their money comes from, they're no better then city our chelsea and never have been. They have a huge financial advantage that no one will match without sugar daddies.
In fact, sugar daddies have made the league more competitive IMO.
Without city and Chelsea united would have at least 5 more titles and only arsenal would have had a chance.

 

[parj]

I'm more than happy with what we have and what's coming through ....Veljkovic Carroll Onomah Winks Mason Bentaleb.

Mason and Bentaleb is a great partnership imo they will be much stronger this coming season.

I wouldnt say great partnership. I think Mason can cock it up more than Bentaleb. I would like to see an experienced player sitting beside one of them.

 

[teddy_sheringham_125]

Cantona, Pallister, Bruce, Schmeichel, Ferdinand, Rooney, Vidic, Staam, Berbatov, Carrick, Veron, Anderson, RVP, RVN, Cole,
All bought by Fergie to effectively buy silverware.

I don't care where their money comes from, they're no better then city our chelsea and never have been. They have a huge financial advantage that no one will match without sugar daddies.
In fact, sugar daddies have made the league more competitive IMO.
Without city and Chelsea united would have at least 5 more titles and only arsenal would have had a chance.

But over how many seasons were those players bought? I agree that Utd have always paid big money for big signings, but they have also brought through a lot of young players too.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I have the recollection that Utd generally purchased at most 1 big player a year under Fergie (plus some smaller fee purchases), yet under LvG they seem to have splashed out on about 7 or 8 big players already. This is the transition I'm talking about.

 

[ethanedwards]

Man Utd are becoming a team to hate again. I used to at least admire them back in the Fergie days when they (comparatively) spent very little and bought good youngsters through. Now they are no different from Man City and Chelsea.

Fergie spent big, he struck gold with a Giggs etc back in the ninties, and not a lot of youth since.
The team required a major rebuild when he left, an exceptional manager who got the most from a squad and then some.

 

[Mullers]

At least we can move on to our next target and not be dicked about till the last hour leaving us empty handed.

The price quoted for him to us was 27 million, so he shouldn't have been a target at all.

 

[willy white wonka]

Think this might have been partly a tactical buy by old cauliflower face just to stop him coming to us, a la Willian to Chelski last summer. At least shows they fear us. Serve Morgana right if it turns out he plays in the PL but not the CL.

 

[Gaz_Gammon]

Even if Man Ure were not in for him, Levy would never spend that kind of money on a player given the Clubs current transfer policy outlined by Levy himself.

 

[guiltyparty]

Anyone thinking he'd come to us now was really clutching at straws, didn't seem at all likely.

We had our chance, and we laughed at the fee. It's similar to the Benteke stuff - we had our chance to buy him, balked at the fee, and now someone else will have him. Is what it is.

You don't get too many bites at the same cherry

 

[spursintheblood]

Disappointing if true. Would have been a fulcrum for us.

 

[TottenhamMattSpur]

But over how many seasons were those players bought? I agree that Utd have always paid big money for big signings, but they have also brought through a lot of young players too.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I have the recollection that Utd generally purchased at most 1 big player a year under Fergie (plus some smaller fee purchases), yet under LvG they seem to have splashed out on about 7 or 8 big players already. This is the transition I'm talking about.

Basically the class of 92 was the only real youth success.
Fergie was a master of the transfer market. He weakened opponents when strengthening themselves. He unsettled many an opponents best players even when not signing them.

I always have and always will fucking hate them. More so than chelsea and city.

 

[JoeT]

It'll be ironic if Manchester Utd fail to make it through the Champions League qualifiers.

Here's hoping............

 

[yiddopaul]

Man Utd are becoming a team to hate again. I used to at least admire them back in the Fergie days when they (comparatively) spent very little and bought good youngsters through. Now they are no different from Man City and Chelsea.

To be fair to Utd. They have earnt the right to spend big. Chelsea and City bought success. As you pointed out, over the last 20 or so years, they have become huge with youngsters and great coaching, winning titles without paying large sums. This money is self generated based on success.
I have always liked ManU, a well run club, with organic success. I know refs have always favoured them and Fergie time etc. and they always poached our best players (we would do exactly the same in their position), but for I've always had a soft spot for them. Rather them win the title than Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea or Man City.

Weird!

 

[yiddopaul]

Cantona, Pallister, Bruce, Schmeichel, Ferdinand, Rooney, Vidic, Staam, Berbatov, Carrick, Veron, Anderson, RVP, RVN, Cole,
All bought by Fergie to effectively buy silverware.

I don't care where their money comes from, they're no better then city our chelsea and never have been. They have a huge financial advantage that no one will match without sugar daddies.
In fact, sugar daddies have made the league more competitive IMO.
Without city and Chelsea united would have at least 5 more titles and only arsenal would have had a chance.

And without City and Chelsea, we would probably be regular top 4 for the last 10 years.

 

[TottenhamMattSpur]

And without City and Chelsea, we would probably be regular top 4 for the last 10 years.

You may be right. You're almost certainly right in fact.
But united would have continued to win title after title and got better and better IMO.

Think I prefer the competitive nature we now have.