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SirHarryHotspur

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I can’t remember the exact figures, but I’m sure there was supposed to be around 8,000 tickets available to members/GA.

62,000 less
approx 3,500 away fans
8,000 corporate
500 media/directors box etc.

Leaves 50,000 less 42,000 ST sold.

Somebody correct me if I’m wrong, but I’m sure that’s about right.

Looking at the live ticketing site there is no way there’s 8,000 tickets left over. Maybe they are actually keeping some back in various locations.

Your figures are about right. From the ground capacities given in the stadium design document the south stand, east & west lower and north middle & lower holds 30842 this includes 1882 seats but excludes tunnel club etc. , they are nearly all sold apart from say about 200 to 300 seats. The upper tiers north, west & east hold 19079 again excluding premium seating, so got to decide how many are left in the uppers.
 

LeSoupeKitchen

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Club have played it to perfection. They'll go down the bronze list and sell those 1882.


Everybody knows (including those who purchase) that they are ludicrously bad value but if it's a once in a lifetime chance to become a season ticket holder, you love Spurs and you have a bit of cash you'd prob do it.

Basically a way for the club to cash in on desperation at the tail end of the season ticket list.

They'll have been running models on this for the last year to estimate correctly.

Can't help but have a respect for DL for his shrewdness as a business man (and you cannot deny the club is being run like an efficient machine) but it definitely leaves a somewhat bitter taste. It’s about a product and what is the highest price you can get for it. In years gone by it was about more than that. But times have changed I suppose.

Hardly a shrewd businessman in this case - he has us over a barrel. There should be some kind of regulation of ticket prices - aren't there some kind of anti-competition laws? It's not like we can tell him to shove it and spend £300 to get a ST at West Ham.
 

TottenhamMattSpur

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Your figures are about right. From the ground capacities given in the stadium design document the south stand, east & west lower and north middle & lower holds 30842 this includes 1882 seats but excludes tunnel club etc. , they are nearly all sold apart from say about 200 to 300 seats. The upper tiers north, west & east hold 19079 again excluding premium seating, so got to decide how many are left in the uppers.

They weren't all offered. Some blocks entirely, some sections of boxes I think.
 

BPR_U16

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Fuck me that was nerve racking, I managed to reserve a seat at 9.45, the payment page wouldn’t go through properly then it kicked me out onto to the doughnut for half an hour, then it suddenly went to the basket and let me buy the seat I had reserved.

Block 420 row 11 ?

We are in Block 420 row 14
 

Jimmypearce7

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So it all worked out as the club planned and most season ticket holders were happy?
Overall I thought well planned. A lot of complaints came from the understandable anxiety the phases caused. Plus some people in 8 have effectively been forced to buy 1882 , which is unfair, but overall verdict positive?
 

bubble07

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Not totally happy. At those prices they should have thrown in domestic cup matches. Reckon if there was a media backlash on the prices Levy have done that
 

Josiebyar

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So it all worked out as the club planned and most season ticket holders were happy?
Overall I thought well planned. A lot of complaints came from the understandable anxiety the phases caused. Plus some people in 8 have effectively been forced to buy 1882 , which is unfair, but overall verdict positive?

who said STHs were happy?

it's a case of having no alternative...buy it or someone else does...
 

Hoopspur

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So it all worked out as the club planned and most season ticket holders were happy?
Overall I thought well planned. A lot of complaints came from the understandable anxiety the phases caused. Plus some people in 8 have effectively been forced to buy 1882 , which is unfair, but overall verdict positive?
A resigned acceptance perhaps? I’m certainly not happy with where I’m sitting compared with my old location.

The process itself was kind of ok although the staging process caused problems with families (and others) that had tickets for numerous years.
 

dagraham

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So it all worked out as the club planned and most season ticket holders were happy?
Overall I thought well planned. A lot of complaints came from the understandable anxiety the phases caused. Plus some people in 8 have effectively been forced to buy 1882 , which is unfair, but overall verdict positive?

Of course it all worked out as the club planned. The club have us over a barrel. What are fans going to do, go and support another team? Many have been going for years, we're not just going to give it up and miss out on being in the new stadium ( for a season at the very least). As well as a whole load of other fans who have been waiting for a ST for years and would probably pay to sit on the roof with a pair of binoculars if it meant getting in.

And if there are some fans who just feel so strongly about the prices etc or genuinely can't afford it, there will be many others queuing to take their place.

So I think the term happy is relative. I know personally the complaints I had about the whole process/prices/seat availability/corporate etc haven't changed. I'm not going to go over them again though as there's no point and of course I am looking forward to being in the new stadium.
 

hughy

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Of course it all worked out as the club planned. The club have us over a barrel. What are fans going to do, go and support another team? Many have been going for years, we're not just going to give it up and miss out on being in the new stadium ( for a season at the very least). As well as a whole load of other fans who have been waiting for a ST for years and would probably pay to sit on the roof with a pair of binoculars if it meant getting in.

And if there are some fans who just feel so strongly about the prices etc or genuinely can't afford it, there will be many others queuing to take their place.

So I think the term happy is relative. I know personally the complaints I had about the whole process/prices/seat availability/corporate etc haven't changed. I'm not going to go over them again though as there's no point and of course I am looking forward to being in the new stadium.

Exactly this bit in bold. It's not like when a pub hikes up its price of a pint, and people vote with their feet and go to the pub 100 yards down the road.

The alternative to buying a season ticket is completely missing out, and with it may go the chance of getting a season ticket for a number of years to come. I'm happy to have my seat at NWHL, but I'm not overly satisfied with the fact I’m paying £250 more next season for a seat which is in a less favourable position. Then again, if the tickets had been £2k across the board I probably would have got one because I’m fickle.
 

Hoopspur

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It’s definitely a dangerous game that the club is playing. With the hike in ticket prices comes an increased expectation of success. It’s not as if we’ve got a recent history of this success. People’s memories are short and soon the new magnificent bright shiny home will not matter quite so much and lose it’s novelty. The club now has a window of a couple of years in which to start delivering before the tail off. Nice food halls won’t be more important than mediocrity.
 

hakano

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I don't think there will be too much of an issue to sell the tickets this season, it's in the seasons to come that fans could stay away if not the team are not successful. As early as the second season at the new stadium.
 

Bing

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Hmmm... I got an ok seat but it cost £1,325. Not totally happy.

I'll give it a season but at that price atmosphere needs to be immense, football needs to be good and there has to be a good chance of selling games that I am not around for. I'll reassess after this season.
 

Saoirse

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I think most of the criticism was about the long-term effects, not this season. The only thing that has gone better than I'd have expected from a commercial viewpoint is their success in selling 1882 seats to people in Phase 8. It's impossible to tell how many haven't renewed due to the fact that they do appear to be reserving areas to sell tickets to members as well, but it doesn't sound like many chose not to for this season.

However, none of that assuages concerns about the attendance at less attractive games with high prices, about whether the atmosphere will be affected by vastly increased (and unrealistic) expectations, about renewals in the future if those expectations on performance and atmosphere aren't met - all of which will only become more pertinent as the years go by, the stadium is no longer a novelty, and even if we do so consistently merely qualifying for the Champions League may no longer be seen as a success.

Beyond everything else though, we have clearly gone backwards on a crucial long-term problem. The average age of a football fan continues to increase, and one day those generations will no longer be attending, while interest dwindles among the younger crowd. If they cannot afford to go to matches at 22, they won't go, let alone take their own kids, at 42. This isn't an issue unique to us, but other clubs - even the likes of Manchester United - are making attempts to mitigate it, while we turn down a fantastic opportunity to do so with the increased capacity. It's likely too long-term for the current board to worry about, but for those of us who fully intend on being here in decades to come it risks a generational downturn in football as bad or worse than anything caused by the hooliganism of decades gone.
 

BPR_U16

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Those spivs down at London Stadium or whatever it's called, must be jealous that Levy has managed to sell so many season tickets at these prices, when they had to have so many deals to sell the quantities that did to see football at their athletics stadium.

Earning capacity, fan base, of the two clubs is so markedly different - and yet so many of them believe they are comparable to Spurs!!!
 

stephen509

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Having just logged on there are quite a few thousand STs still available. Most seats are back rows in those sections.

I think the club would have been better to offer £100-£200 cheaper STs and have them sell out instantly and keep the demand and waiting list there. I'm not sure those remaining will all sell, especially those STs over £1,500 in the back rows...
 

Hoopspur

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Having just logged on there are quite a few thousand STs still available. Most seats are back rows in those sections.

I think the club would have been better to offer £100-£200 cheaper STs and have them sell out instantly and keep the demand and waiting list there. I'm not sure those remaining will all sell, especially those STs over £1,500 in the back rows...

Kind of disagree. The club will now be offering them to those waiting on the list. More emotional blackmail as those not being able to afford them now will be relegated to the base of the list again.
 

Hoopspur

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Sound of klaxon...

Last minute rush everyone - you've got til 17.00 today!!!!
 
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