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mkkid

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This here really annoys me, how someone is allowed to buy a ticket in the middle of two available seats. That means 2 people wanting to sit together in the next phase will not be able to.

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It’s seat blocking, bet they got friends in later phases.My group of friends have done the same thing.
 

mkkid

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phase 1 people by default have high loyalty points and therefore have historically be able to afford to go to more matches than the average fan. More money means they have more wiggle room on the pricier tickets.

Later phases may be more telling if people tell them to forget it or not.


I then your find is most make sacrifices ,so they have high LP,I don’t go out as often or have as many regular breaks than my friends,I sell ticket , so I can go to other games and then buy cheap spares.
 

TottenhamMattSpur

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The same numpties presumably who are unable to keep data of ST holders before 2006.

Still pissed off I’m in Phase 3. Heard on the radio of one ST holder of 63 years who’s also in Phase 3!

Plus every time I look at the huge expanse of East stand given over to corporates it just saddens and angers me at the same time.

That sounds like Bullshit. The phases are based on number of years as a season ticket holder. 11+ years with 300+ points is phase one. You basically can't be an 11 year+ season ticket holder and not have 300+ points.

I think they’re referencing concession seats though. Pretty sure they’re not all adult seats.

No they're not. They're quoting full priced tickets. There ARE more tickets in the new stadium at under a grand than there were at any price point at WHL. Just not where they were.
 

thebenjamin

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That sounds like Bullshit. The phases are based on number of years as a season ticket holder. 11+ years with 300+ points is phase one. You basically can't be an 11 year+ season ticket holder and not have 300+ points.

Yes you can. I've had a season ticket for 31 years, a 'gold' one since they started doing them (all home cup games bought) and I'm phase 2.
 

Bruts

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I am so undecided where to sit. Had my season ticket in the Paxton for 25 years so used to being behind the goal but I am very tempted to get a seat in the East or West Lower. What is everyone's thoughts on pitchside seats - view etc.

I appreciate the atmosphere in the West lower wont be amazing but remember I am used to that in the Paxton! ;)
 

mkkid

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That sounds like Bullshit. The phases are based on number of years as a season ticket holder. 11+ years with 300+ points is phase one. You basically can't be an 11 year+ season ticket holder and not have 300+ points.



No they're not. They're quoting full priced tickets. There ARE more tickets in the new stadium at under a grand than there were at any price point at WHL. Just not where they were.


My daughter is ,she has 205 points.Lots of STH don’t do cup games about 10k according to the Trust.
She’s phase 3.
 

TottenhamMattSpur

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Yes you can. I've had a season ticket for 31 years, a 'gold' one since they started doing them (all home cup games bought) and I'm phase 2.

Have you considered contacting the club and asking how that's even possible? I have read numerous reports about people having their window place changed due to errors.
 

Dougal

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The loyalty points cull of a few years ago, when they decided only the last 5 years was your countable loyalty, meant my loyalty points were decimated. Next season will be my 20th season as a ST holder but I’ve only got 230 odd points these days. Phase 2 for me.
 

TottenhamMattSpur

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I am so undecided where to sit. Had my season ticket in the Paxton for 25 years so used to being behind the goal but I am very tempted to get a seat in the East or West Lower. What is everyone's thoughts on pitchside seats - view etc.

I appreciate the atmosphere in the West lower wont be amazing but remember I am used to that in the Paxton! ;)

The view is decent on the sidelines but in my experience, the atmosphere isn't just bad, it's often negative.
 

dagraham

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That sounds like Bullshit. The phases are based on number of years as a season ticket holder. 11+ years with 300+ points is phase one. You basically can't be an 11 year+ season ticket holder and not have 300+ points.

Well if it is bullshit then it would nice of the club to correct it, because that’s exactly what they are saying. I have been a ST holder for 18 years and I’m in Phase 3 ( like quite a few of those around me). Quite why a multi million pound business is unable to keep simple records is another story.

End result is I will probably end up with a far worse seat for a lot more more money due to the limited amount of actual tickets available in the East/West Lower, which is reduced by corporates even before us mere mortals can start buying them.

No amount of facilities are going to compensate for that. They talk about the facilities like it’s an All Inclusive holiday resort. In fact they are just a wider choice of food and drink which we all still have to pay for ( and probably at a sky high price ).
 

dagraham

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The loyalty points cull of a few years ago, when they decided only the last 5 years was your countable loyalty, meant my loyalty points were decimated. Next season will be my 20th season as a ST holder but I’ve only got 230 odd points these days. Phase 2 for me.

Yeah, call me strange but I always thought loyalty was a long term concept.
 

Rich_16

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It's going to be another Wembley situation where the TV cameras pick up the massive empty corporate section bang in the middle of the East lower

Do we know which stand the tv cameras will be housed on? I’m hoping to get a West lower seat in phase 5 but always kind of liked the idea of being on tv each game.
 

Dougal

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Yeah, call me strange but I always thought loyalty was a long term concept.
Hard as it is for me to accept they probably have a point. It has freshened up the points system. I’ve been away to 40-50 odd grounds with Spurs and used to go to all the Home cup games too so I was heading to the 500 point mark. But life got in the way, the credit crunch of 2008 hit hard and my ‘loyalty’ was tested. Less away games, then just handpicked, then just the Emirates as the points I had guaranteed me any ticket I wanted. That left it to others to build up their points totals and do the tough trips that I had already done. One season I decided £64 was too much for any Emirates ticket. By the next season my points had withered away anyway thanks to the cull where over 200 points were taken from me. This season I’ve stuck to my 19 League home games and that’s my lot. I hope to go regularly again but I’m pretty much starting over.
 

fingersinc

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Yeah, call me strange but I always thought loyalty was a long term concept.

Loyalty depends on who was managing the database when they cocked it up. I'm in phase one with 450. A dad, son and daughter who I go with are all in phase 4. One has 720 points, another 640 and the other 350 points. Yet they have only ever been to the same games as me. And none of them have been to more away games than me in the last 5 years.
 

Winchy85

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Do we know which stand the tv cameras will be housed on? I’m hoping to get a West lower seat in phase 5 but always kind of liked the idea of being on tv each game.

I would assume the camera's will be in the East Stand looking towards the West Stand where the benches will be.
 

Dougal

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The loyalty scheme was a cock-up from the outset.
It was a simple scheme that worked until they decided to fuck with it. You can't have a starting point for something like this and then start again (with the cull) and again (with the new stadium). It throws it into chaos.
 

Winchy85

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It was a simple scheme that worked until they decided to fuck with it. You can't have a starting point for something like this and then start again (with the cull) and again (with the new stadium). It throws it into chaos.

5 year rolling loyalty was always a joke. We're not the only club to adopt a similar thing though. I know some clubs allocate seats to cup finals and semi finals based on how many games you've been to in that cup competition that season unlike us with the loyalty point scheme.

The loyalty system did help me get tickets to Arsenal away though which would never have happened before as it favoured people who had season tickets for 10+ years over people going regularly now so the same people could go to the 1 or 2 away games every season and sell out the allocation. I recall the club saying they did it because of that at the time, to allow younger generations go to these games to generate a better atmosphere or something along these lines? That was soon scrapped and they said they didn't have accurate information on loyalty points like they hadn't stored them or some work experience kid had wiped all their records!
 

dagraham

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Hard as it is for me to accept they probably have a point. It has freshened up the points system. I’ve been away to 40-50 odd grounds with Spurs and used to go to all the Home cup games too so I was heading to the 500 point mark. But life got in the way, the credit crunch of 2008 hit hard and my ‘loyalty’ was tested. Less away games, then just handpicked, then just the Emirates as the points I had guaranteed me any ticket I wanted. That left it to others to build up their points totals and do the tough trips that I had already done. One season I decided £64 was too much for any Emirates ticket. By the next season my points had withered away anyway thanks to the cull where over 200 points were taken from me. This season I’ve stuck to my 19 League home games and that’s my lot. I hope to go regularly again but I’m pretty much starting over.

Yeah I understand that, and I have a pretty similar experience to you. I have no problem with a fan who has been a long term ST holder, but also goes away etc being ahead of me in the queue. I just have the hump with how they've cocked up the records, meaning people approaching 20 years etc may find themselves scrabbling for a seat up in the gods which still cost a lot more than their previous seat. Nobody can convince me that a seat behind the goal high up in the new stadium is a better seat than close to the half way line of the East Lower in the old WHL, despite the "facilities".

I still haven't heard a credible reason why they haven't just tried to relocate fans as close as possible to where they were in WHL.
 
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