Season Ticket Renewal Thread (Read first post)

[EighteenEightyTwo]

The view is decent on the sidelines but in my experience, the atmosphere isn't just bad, it's often negative.

I sit in the West with my dad, and can confirm this is true. Also, the old grumpy men that sat in the West Stand will be even older and grumpier by next season. A few weeks ago my dad said "we overpaid for Dele Alli" So be warned!

 

[Coyboy]

Why the hate for people that miss 5 mins here and there? I enjoy having a drink or two at half time and chat with people I don't sit with, and that sometimes ends up with watching the first few mins of the second half inside the concourses. So what?

Then meet them at any other time for a chat.

It’s selfish and annoying when people come and go as they please. Ok it’s not the theatre but it’s not cricket either, it’s a fairly non-stop 90 minute sport (apologies for the horrendous obvious stating) and I don’t see why if people pay so much and care so much about the game they can’t get to games on time, leave at the final whistle and come back before the second half.

And would it be too much to ask to bring me some street food back?

 

[DiscoD1882]

I don't think I have ever had such a crisis of confidence as I have now deciding where I am going to sit. keep going on and looking and just cant make my mind up. although I am phase 6 so may not even have a choice. Its supposed to be fun isn't it??

 

[Dougal]

Unless you manage to get an isle seat! Wembley was the perfect chance for me to get one after 11+ years of pissing off the people in my row at WHL! Although I was rarely late back, just tended to leave a few mins before HT to beat the rush.

Hoping for another isle seat at NWHL, win win for everyone involved

I’m normally in the aisle seat so every fucker has to pass by me. Which is fine. At half time.

 

[spursfan77]

I don't think I have ever had such a crisis of confidence as I have now deciding where I am going to sit. keep going on and looking and just cant make my mind up. although I am phase 6 so may not even have a choice. Its supposed to be fun isn't it??

I agree. I am phase 3 and am undecided. But I think thats because I am buying in a group with other people. If I was just buying my 2 season tickets on their own then I would be more decisive. Maybe I should just force the others to sit where I want to!

 

[davidmatzdorf]

I really am curious. For argument's sake, let's say the club aren't talking out of their wiped-with-fifty-pound-notes bumholes and we really are getting an experience that is not comparable to seats at the old WHL.

Anyone want to try arguing exactly what this experience is (while trying really hard to not call BS on the club?)

The best I can think of is atmosphere shifts so that simply being part of the crowd is like being at a high profile Bundesliga or South American match as the design of the stadium is 'that good' (7.9m from touchlines, even if it was enforced by health and safety, is a bit far in my opinion so I'm already sceptical. 4.9 for the south is good though). So that every match is a rollercoaster of nerves and excitement beginning to end. Acoustic effects kicking in, close stands and steep angles of the stands all helping.

If they want us to pay MORE for the access to better bars and restaurants, then be default, that food and drink should be discounted or free, but instead it will be overpriced..... so we should be thankful merely for the access to overpriced facilities with nice tiling?

Access to the stadium may not be great and I'm a bit worried that I can't go by the new away section in the north east to get to the east stand, with me approaching from the north walking down from the north circ. If I have to walk all the way around the stadium, by the west, around the south then back up the east, I will be super annoyed.

Anyone got any other ideas what this 'experience' really entails?

There is another reason why the club is plugging "the experience" so hard, which hasn't to do with prices for tickets, food or beer.

One of the keys to producing a convincing transport strategy during the planning negotiation was to show ways to tempt people into the stadium long before kick off and to keep them there after the final whistle. This staggers the load on local transport and is one way they managed to avoid the unsustainable expense of paying for a new tube station.

If it doesn't work - if the food is overpriced rubbish, the microbrewery serves piss and everyone arrives 5 minutes before kickoff and then deserts the place in a rush, the way it was at OWHL, the strategy won't work. So they have to make it good and it has to be priced at a level that will get people to buy.

I have no great desire to "make a day out" of my trip to see the football. I just want to watch the match. Historically, my partner and I would get the 259 bus from where we live directly to the stadium and aim to arrive 5-10 minutes before kick off. Because of the vagaries of traffic, it didn't always work and we missed the occasional early goal. But I doubt we'll change it, just to "sample the experience". It will have to be pretty fucking special to tempt us. People like us are the challenge, not people who meet in the local pubs beforehand anyway - they can just as easily neck their beer and gobble their kebab in the stadium bars, but they'll only do that if it's (a) better than what's outside and (b) not insanely expensive.

 

[EmperorKabir]

There is another reason why the club is plugging "the experience" so hard, which hasn't to do with prices for tickets, food or beer.

One of the keys to producing a convincing transport strategy during the planning negotiation was to show ways to tempt people into the stadium long before kick off and to keep them there after the final whistle. This staggers the load on local transport and is one way they managed to avoid the unsustainable expense of paying for a new tube station.

If it doesn't work - if the food is overpriced rubbish, the microbrewery serves piss and everyone arrives 5 minutes before kickoff and then deserts the place in a rush, the way it was at OWHL, the strategy won't work. So they have to make it good and it has to be priced at a level that will get people to buy.

I have no great desire to "make a day out" of my trip to see the football. I just want to watch the match. Historically, my partner and I would get the 259 bus from where we live directly to the stadium and aim to arrive 5-10 minutes before kick off. Because of the vagaries of traffic, it didn't always work and we missed the occasional early goal. But I doubt we'll change it, just to "sample the experience". It will have to be pretty fucking special to tempt us. People like us are the challenge, not people who meet in the local pubs beforehand anyway - they can just as easily neck their beer and gobble their kebab in the stadium bars, but they'll only do that if it's (a) better than what's outside and (b) not insanely expensive.

I agree. I've had an ST since 1999. I'm 31 and I have a very busy London life and I'm always running around.

Very first game of the season for me: show up an hour early and really have a good look around.

Every single game after that: arrive at KO, leave at final whistle. I realise this my choice in a sense, but hey, I'd gladly have paid far less to have no access to anything except a urinal and a sink. Not realistic I know but how many of us really asked for this 'package' deal?

 

[EmperorKabir]

Without gettting into the whole economic argument, you can be sure that if it went the other way round and they shifted us into a crap, ramshackle uncomfortable shithole with dreadful facilities we’d be demanding a discount. Like it or not on a personal basis, there is value in the quality of a football stadium. The quality of the football is paramount, by a huge margin, but it has never been the only consideration.

If we were still allowed to have over 60,000 in the old WHL, mostly standing and many of them pissing down the terraces because they can’t get to the toilets, or if they do they certainly can’t get back in again, would it be fair to charge us all same prices as they did last year for a seat at WHL? No, because facilities and comfort matter, even to football fans.

I’m not trying to justify the prices, but to argue that the “experience” has no value is simply wrong, in my view.

Good point

 

[dagraham]

The problem with this “experience” is that a lot of it is superficial and fleeting. Unless you are in the corporate areas and the football is secondary then I imagine it will never get old, but to the rest of us it will get old really quick.

 

[Saoirse]

There is another reason why the club is plugging "the experience" so hard, which hasn't to do with prices for tickets, food or beer.

One of the keys to producing a convincing transport strategy during the planning negotiation was to show ways to tempt people into the stadium long before kick off and to keep them there after the final whistle. This staggers the load on local transport and is one way they managed to avoid the unsustainable expense of paying for a new tube station.

If it doesn't work - if the food is overpriced rubbish, the microbrewery serves piss and everyone arrives 5 minutes before kickoff and then deserts the place in a rush, the way it was at OWHL, the strategy won't work. So they have to make it good and it has to be priced at a level that will get people to buy.

I have no great desire to "make a day out" of my trip to see the football. I just want to watch the match. Historically, my partner and I would get the 259 bus from where we live directly to the stadium and aim to arrive 5-10 minutes before kick off. Because of the vagaries of traffic, it didn't always work and we missed the occasional early goal. But I doubt we'll change it, just to "sample the experience". It will have to be pretty fucking special to tempt us. People like us are the challenge, not people who meet in the local pubs beforehand anyway - they can just as easily neck their beer and gobble their kebab in the stadium bars, but they'll only do that if it's (a) better than what's outside and (b) not insanely expensive.

I think this would actually be the best way to put pressure on the club. Obviously people aren't going to boycott the matches, losing their season tickets and waiting list places etc. But I think people annoyed at the prices could go along with a "not a penny more" campaign. Refuse to spend anything on food, drinks, programmes, replica shirts, merchandise and all the rest of it. In the ground before kick-off, out again at full time. Support the local pubs, cafes, and restaurants instead.

 

[Goldman]

Personally I’ve quite enjoyed the facilities at Wembley, nice to have a range of drink and food options. If the prices are not crazy then I’d be happy to get to NWHL early on occasion or stay late. Especially as you can access all areas of the stadium. And because it doesn’t take long for me to get home from Tottenham, unlike Wembley.

For the rare fixtures when the sun is out, it will still have to be a trip to the B&H beer garden.

 

[THFCSPURS19]

Experience??? Hahahaha. Turn up, watch football, leave stadium

Fuck the food. Fuck the bars, fuck the merchandise. Try supporting the pubs and food places around the ground rather than the greedy ****s who run our club

Exactly. I'd rather we played on the ol' Tottenham Marshes.

 

[The Scarecrow]

Experience??? Hahahaha. Turn up, watch football, leave stadium

Fuck the food. Fuck the bars, fuck the merchandise. Try supporting the pubs and food places around the ground rather than the greedy ****s who run our club

The one thing I hate about going to see sporting events live, is getting home after. If sticking around for a bit is a viable option, I'd happily do that. The street is crowded, the pubs are crowded, and the queue for the train is a hundred meters long. With the option of staying at the stadium post match, we might even see less people leave early, becasue why hurry back to the train if you can sit down with a pint instead?

 

[dagraham]

Personally I’ve quite enjoyed the facilities at Wembley, nice to have a range of drink and food options. If the prices are not crazy then I’d be happy to get to NWHL early on occasion or stay late. Especially as you can access all areas of the stadium. And because it doesn’t take long for me to get home from Tottenham, unlike Wembley.

For the rare fixtures when the sun is out, it will still have to be a trip to the B&H beer garden.

The only thing about Wembley that I’ve enjoyed is being able to have the odd pint of Guinness before the game. It’s not the best pint of Guinness I’ve had, but more than drinkable.

Don’t think we’ll be getting that option at the new stadium though.

 

[spursfan77]

Does anyone have that diagram that shows the distance between the stand and pitch at the new stadium and that of Wembley?

I am in row 28 behind the goal at Wembley and I want to try and work out how far from the pitch I will be in the south stand (if I can get a ticket there) compared to my position at Wembley

 

[Dougal]

I don't think I have ever had such a crisis of confidence as I have now deciding where I am going to sit. keep going on and looking and just cant make my mind up. although I am phase 6 so may not even have a choice. Its supposed to be fun isn't it??

I made up my mind a week ago and stuck with it. Until this morning. Just making arrangements with my mate about sorting this tomorrow and realised he’s out of the country. Fine, they have the internet in Austria. But what if it goes wrong and I get a seat in the wrong stadium?

 

[BujuBanton]

The one thing I hate about going to see sporting events live, is getting home after. If sticking around for a bit is a viable option, I'd happily do that. The street is crowded, the pubs are crowded, and the queue for the train is a hundred meters long. With the option of staying at the stadium post match, we might even see less people leave early, becasue why hurry back to the train if you can sit down with a pint instead?

I agree. I will be in tottenham hours before and after the game, but i wont be in the stadium, i will be with mates in a pub (whichever one hasnt closed down!)

 

[Winchy85]

The problem with this “experience” is that a lot of it is superficial and fleeting. Unless you are in the corporate areas and the football is secondary then I imagine it will never get old, but to the rest of us it will get old really quick.

The "experience" would probably be alright if we ever played a 3pm home game on a Saturday as you would be able to get to the ground earlier and watch the early kick off and possibly stay after to watch the evening game if the drink is a reasonable price.

If they get the pricing right they could easily attract a lot of people into the ground instead of the pubs around the area.

Are they having anything similar to Wembley where they have the open bit in the top tier where you can go "outside" and have a smoke overlooking Wembley Way?

 

[ERO]

I made up my mind a week ago and stuck with it. Until this morning. Just making arrangements with my mate about sorting this tomorrow and realised he’s out of the country. Fine, they have the internet in Austria. But what if it goes wrong and I get a seat in the wrong stadium?

No refunds.

 

[Dougal]

Personally, I hate Tottenham fans, and the sooner I can get away from them the better.