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Streetspur77

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Obviously his comments are unacceptable but as far as I understand he apologised( correct me if I'm wrong) and this whole post is based on the assumption he truly regrets his comments, otherwise fuck him

I feel like his comments were more out of ignorance rather than flat out Hatrid of gay people. You've got to understand he's from a completely different culture, which doesn't excuse his comments, but does put them in context

I also highly doubt many in this forum are at any liberty to crucify someone for using that language and can categorically say they've never used or partook in that kind of language, especially when they were young

The police stuff is obviously bad but not exactly a deal breaker especially if he is cleared

I'm for giving this guy a second chance, maybe with an add on of helping Tottenham LGBT with events and awareness or whatever. If poch believes his a decent guy who's made mistakes then I trust him
 

KirstyG

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A very balanced post. What he said was ignorant, bang out of order and very offensive. Does it mean he hates members of the LGBT community? Only he really knows the answer to that. So in the meantime, his public apology to those involved and the fans must be taken into consideration and his future conduct should be monitored but it shouldn't be assumed that someone who makes these types of ignorant and offensive comments can't be re-educated about what is acceptable or (if needed) re-educated about his views.
Obviously his comments are unacceptable but as far as I understand he apologised( correct me if I'm wrong) and this whole post is based on the assumption he truly regrets his comments, otherwise fuck him

I feel like his comments were more out of ignorance rather than flat out Hatrid of gay people. You've got to understand he's from a completely different culture, which doesn't excuse his comments, but does put them in context

I also highly doubt many in this forum are at any liberty to crucify someone for using that language and can categorically say they've never used or partook in that kind of language, especially when they were young

The police stuff is obviously bad but not exactly a deal breaker especially if he is cleared

I'm for giving this guy a second chance, maybe with an add on of helping Tottenham LGBT with events and awareness or whatever. If poch believes his a decent guy who's made mistakes then I trust him
 

harrmaud

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I think I agree. I don't necessarily think that using that word means that he's homophobic. It's a homophobic word for sure, but does it have the same connotations and history as it does in English? I genuinely don't know.

But for me what he said could easily have just been moronic rather than actually homophobic. I'd be very uncomfortable with signing Andre Gray who said he wanted gay people to burn, but I don't necessarily think that's what Aurier's case was
 

Giovanni

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This guys plays exactly as i hoped walker would depelop. Hes like walker but even more intense. Sign him up levy!
 

diamond lights

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I think I agree. I don't necessarily think that using that word means that he's homophobic. It's a homophobic word for sure, but does it have the same connotations and history as it does in English? I genuinely don't know.

But for me what he said could easily have just been moronic rather than actually homophobic. I'd be very uncomfortable with signing Andre Gray who said he wanted gay people to burn, but I don't necessarily think that's what Aurier's case was
There are still many countries in the world and a lot in Africa where it is illegal to be gay. This is difficult to understand for a lot of us but I it can give licence to a homophobic culture in young men specifically. This will improve over time as religion loses its grip and education replaces ignorance.

Young men will make mistakes and should have the chance to learn from them. I am not proud of a lot of things I said and thought when I was 20.

Let's not use these things alone to write him off if he becomes our player. Poch is a thoroughly decent human being and will not tolerate a troublemaker.
 

Ben1

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We can safely say that if he does sign, poch would have been reassured by the player and the contract will be laced with clauses.
 

diamond lights

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Marcroff. I have been spammed before and in itself it doesn't bother me but what on earth in my post made you spam that?
 

nailsy

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The price is probably the key thing here. The way prices are changing at the moment we could probably get him for £25m this summer and sell him for double that next year if KWP shows that he's ready step up.
 

Woodyy

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Just sign him and Barkley alongside Sanchez and then close the window so I can stop thinking about this stuff.
 

Snarfalicious

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Jul 15, 2012
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He's a human garbage can, but thinking of Aurier next to Sanchez along with Toby, Jan and Rose is nothing short of amazing.
 

nicdic

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I bet no one in this thread criticising him has ever made a gay joke, or said stuff they wish they could move on from...

He's young, foolish, made mistakes, and who knows, will again. But he also probably deserves a second chance, and for his apology to be taken at face value.
 

ardiles

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To err is human
To forgive, divine

He made those mistakes when he was young and he is still relatively young.

If Poch (and Levy) wants him, then I'm sure that there would be extensive talks with him to ensure that he has changed positively and if we do sign him, I'd probably think that there would be some terms and conditions in his contract whereby he'd have to toe the line.
 

SpartanSpur

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Certainly is a theme of this window, first Keita Balde and now Aurier. Can't knock us for trying to get players of the very top quality that are 'damaged goods' (attitude and or short contract) rather than good but not great players, but I always think messing with suspect characters is a bit too much of a risk.

A lot of Liverpool fans and Rodgers himself probably thought Balotelli would change and would be a steal at £16m, didn't work out like that.

I'll support him and hope for the best if he comes in, but it does worry me...
 

Ben1

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Certainly is a theme of this window, first Keita Balde and now Aurier. Can't knock us for trying to get players of the very top quality that are 'damaged goods' (attitude and or short contract) rather than good but not great players, but I always think messing with suspect characters is a bit too much of a risk.

A lot of Liverpool fans and Rodgers himself probably thought Balotelli would change and would be a steal at £16m, didn't work out like that.

I'll support him and hope for the best if he comes in, but it does worry me...
I agree, however i'd say the major difference is there seems to be little evidence of Aurier (and maybe Balde) taking those character flaws to the pitch. That was always there with Balotelli..the petulance, laziness and arrogance.
 
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