Sherwood says Bale's departure made a top-four finish for Spurs unlikely

[Gaz_Gammon]

Quite open and honest interviews with Sherwood fully supporting the Club, and backing Levy to the hilt.




http://www1.skysports.com/watch/video/tv-shows/goals-on-sunday/9316176/sherwood-looks-to-the-future

http://www1.skysports.com/watch/video/tv-shows/goals-on-sunday/9316165/sherwood-stats-don't-lie

http://www1.skysports.com/watch/vid...316143/sherwood-lifts-the-lid-on-spurs-tenure

 

[davidmatzdorf]

It was 90% obvious why we would never get top 4 this season, I am pretty sure everyone knew in their heart of hearts that top 4 would be difficult to get but we are always over-optimistic when we talk about our beloved Tottenham (as every fan does). It is the 2014-2015 season that will decide whether our team can turn their potential into performances and improve the mentality of the team.

I don't recall things that way at all. Last August, the majority here (not including me) were cock-a-hoop as a result of the money we'd spent on 'exciting' and expensive international players - it was a 'good transfer window' for people who demand big-money signings in bulk every Summer. A lot of them were hyper-confident that we'd finish in the top 4 and a few thought we might have a crack at the league title. Those of us who prefer consistency, consolidation and stability were less bullish.

 

[JimmyG2]

Sacking the manager doesn't usually work. (see relegated teams).
Appointing a man with no experience doesn't usually work.
Selling your best players doesn't usually work.
Appointing several players new to the league and the country
isn't likely to work.
Do them all at once and it's not gonna work
whoever the rookie manager is and whatever he says.
Put the blame where it truly lies
with the man that keeps picking the wrong guys
and sacking them before we have a chance to find out.

 

[Jonesey]

I'm pleased Tim and Les went on the show and talked about this kind of stuff and appreciate what they say.

Re: making the champions league his point (i think) was based on his win percentage during his tenure, no matter how speculative that comment was. There's no contradiction if that was the case.

All of the hate on here just doesn't make sense. The man was offered the job by our chairman and he took the opportunity just like each and every one of us on here would have done. If anyone is saying they wouldn't have done they would be lying.

He got us into Europe. We played marginally better football and won more games than under AVB. Sure we lost some games by some hefty score lines but we did under AVB too. Would we have won more games had he not dropped some key players? Maybe. But maybe not if what he and Les are saying is true about the mentality of key players.

And there's no reason for him to lie - he wanted us to win as many games as possible, why wouldn't he? Both for the club and for himself and the players.

His lack of experience in football management and in terms of dealing with the media is undeniable but it's not his fault.

The chairman and the board put him in charge and he went for it. It didn't work out how he - or we - would have hoped but perhaps if the players he is talking about had acted more professionally, with a few less key injuries and if the board had backed him more solidly maybe we would have made the champions league, who knows. We know the quality is there.

Bottom line is he is gone now and it's up to the board to put things right. All the hate on here is making this forum feel like a bloody school playground.

I personally think he will learn from the experience and hope he will move on to another club and, with the right support and training/guidance in all things football management, go on to be a successful English manager.

Why wouldn't any of us want that for the game?

 

[idontgetit]

Shit management was the reason we didn't compete for top four this year. Of course selling the worlds most expensive player was a major factor but at the start of the season we WERE in a position to challenge. AVB saw an end to that and Tim was never anywhere near competent enough to do the very tough job of turning it around

 

[Dennism]

I am convinced Levy sacked him because he just would not SHUT UP. He is like some yappy dog that barks at anything. Will someone (anyone) please put a sock in his mouth.

 

[devonte01]

There was a 'break' clause, which we duly exercised, in Tim's 18 months' contract for crying out loud! Both parties to the contract could have exercised that right at the end of the season. Tim knew this, his lawyers knew this, Levy knew this and Tottenham Hotspur lawyers knew this. There is no point screaming ... I could have done this and that if I was given the chance to continue for 18 months - break clause means, there is a 50% chance you wont be there. Given Mr Levy's reputation, make that 99.9% chance!!

I am a 'Sherwood-hater' and I am glad he is out of my club! Simples!

 

[Gaz_Gammon]

His lack of experience in football management and in terms of dealing with the media is undeniable but it's not his fault.

He was good enough in Levy's mind to be given the job and yet no blame or wild ranting is attached to the Sorcerer for his failure to appoint the right apprentice again.

 

[guiltyparty]

Didn't he recently state that Spurs would have made top 4 if he had been manager from the start of the season? Yeah, right.

He also stated in his first press conference in charge, on a wave of bravado and bullishness, that if he didn't get fourth he'd be sacked, and he understood that

He then had a massive U-turn when he realised that wasn't going to happen, and is now saying he had no chance, and that actually he's been treated badly being offed after six months - despite him signing the contract that said they might do just that. Presumably if he refused to the 18-month deal, we'd have gone for Hoddle, who was happy accepting the short-term deal. So isn't it Tim that lied in this situation? That he was happy to accept a contract that could see him leave after six months?

He's even started trying to align himself with AVB now, I notice, since he's got the elbow, which is probably the funniest of the lot

 

[guiltyparty]

He was good enough in Levy's mind to be given the job and yet no blame or wild ranting is attached to the Sorcerer for his failure to appoint the right apprentice again.

If you believe, as I do, that AVB wanted out as much as Levy, I do wonder how many options he actually had once they'd gone down that road. It wasn't working.

Sounds like Levy tried for Van Gaal and FDB then and both said not till the end of the season. Seemed to be Sherwood or Hoddle, realistically, and there are downsides to both of those.

Hoddle would have been a safer appointment in terms of fan-appeasing, I guess, and would have carried some kind of caché. Would also have been clearly for six months. However, Levy sacked him before so maybe there were reasons he didn't do this.

Despite everything, and I really do not like Sherwood at all, he kept us on course to do no worse than we would have done under AVB, despite falling out with large portions of the squad.

It isn't the disaster that some people are painting it as if we make the right next appointment.

 

[Dinghy]

If he looks like a moron, acts like a moron and speaks like a moron - he's probably a moron. Bye, bye Tim... NEXT!!!

And can we hurry up with the next one. I'm just about ready for the next witch hunt.

 

[Dinghy]

He's even started trying to align himself with AVB now, I notice, since he's got the elbow, which is probably the funniest of the lot

Don't see why? He was instrumental in bringing AVB in...

 

[guiltyparty]

Don't see why? He was instrumental in bringing AVB in...

Erm… really?! That's something I've never, ever heard uttered by anyone

The only reports on this have suggested they had a fallout behind the scenes, and Sherwood was undermining him constantly. He then disparaged the way AVB had run the team and the whole 'tactics' culture once he took over, in a line of thinly veiled digs at him. So for him to now almost empathise with AVB seems a bit rich

Of course, both of these things aren't mutually exclusive. He could have been instrumental, then realised pretty quickly that AVB was not working and wanted rid ASAP. Or all of this could be bollocks. But I have never, ever heard that Sherwood was involved with hiring AVB, from anyone.

 

[guiltyparty]

@davidmatzdorf Fella, what part of that do you disagree with? I'm genuinely intrigued as I've only really stated things that happened, not opinion

 

[Dinghy]

Erm… really?! That's something I've never, ever heard uttered by anyone

The only reports on this have suggested they had a fallout behind the scenes, and Sherwood was undermining him constantly. He then disparaged the way AVB had run the team and the whole 'tactics' culture once he took over, in a line of thinly veiled digs at him. So for him to now almost empathise with AVB seems a bit rich

Of course, both of these things aren't mutually exclusive. He could have been instrumental, then realised pretty quickly that AVB was not working and wanted rid ASAP. Or all of this could be bollocks. But I have never, ever heard that Sherwood was involved with hiring AVB, from anyone.

I thought that it was pretty much common knowledge. DL wanted a more experienced manager but TS convinced him to appoint AVB because he (AvB) liked his teams to play the same way as the youths/development sides were already playing...

 

[buckley]

if ever there was a man who should keep his gob shut then tims your man
i predicted that he would not go quietly but would try to cause some waves
his latest words are that he would have tried to sieve some players out
i would like to know who these players are so that i can thank them in person in helping to get rid of that piece of work

 

[JoeT]

I want to rep you into oblivion for this. I basically say this to people all of the time.

As for Sherwood, a good, strong mix of fact and fiction

Almost Redknappian, with the lies and half-truths so carefully planted amongst the facts that many fail to see them

Why drag Harry Redknapp into this?....come to that why does just about everyone refuse to give him credit for managing Spurs to one of their more
successful periods of football in their recent history

 

[CrazyHeart]

Well now, Sherwood's got quite the expectation to live up to in his next club. He's now hyped himself up to Diego Simeone levels and plans to feature in the Godzilla sequel... As Godzilla himself! Let's see how well he does... But for now I'm tired of the guy, I really am.

 

[UbeAstard]

Sacking the manager doesn't usually work. (see relegated teams).
Appointing a man with no experience doesn't usually work.
Selling your best players doesn't usually work.
Appointing several players new to the league and the country
isn't likely to work.
Do them all at once and it's not gonna work
whoever the rookie manager is and whatever he says.
Put the blame where it truly lies
with the man that keeps picking the wrong guys
and sacking them before we have a chance to find out.

A lot of those were enforced on 'the man who keeps picking the wrong guys'.
As has been said elsewhere, picking the right guy is very difficult (as ManU have recently found out). Most of us can and have named our 'right guys' and some of them have been appointed.
You put the blame on Levy and you want to put the man who has done more good than harm to the club to the sword?

 

[CrazyHeart]

Don't see why? He was instrumental in bringing AVB in...

I'd say he was instrumental in getting AVB out.