Shilow Tracey

[GetSpurredOn]

Has been talk of this rumbling away in the background for some time now, but having been away on tour with us, and with the transfer window fast approaching, media seems to have picked up on it again.

http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/foo...deal-for-teenager-shilow-tracey-a3141696.html

Not likely going to be the much discussed Kane backup option, but maybe signed with more of an eye on the future.

 

[Spursidol]

Has been talk of this rumbling away in the background for some time now, but having been away on tour with us, and with the transfer window fast approaching, media seems to have picked up on it again.

http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/foo...deal-for-teenager-shilow-tracey-a3141696.html

Not likely going to be the much discussed Kane backup option, but maybe signed with more of an eye on the future.

I've been posting on the youth thread for 2-3 years that we are (and have been) very light on decent prospects coming through at striker - a fair number in different positions - and anywhere close to the first team, so I've been advocating buying in one or two to supplement our youth system.

If Tracey comes, he will (age wise) fit into Academy Year 2, so still a little way to go to the first team - and in the youth tournament that ended last night he seemed to be playing as a wide forward rather than striker, but he's a big lad powerful dribbling, decent speed without being fast, raw - which tbh is expected at this age - and could well be coached into being a striker. Looked quite effective in the IMG Cup so think we'll try to finalise a deal.

BTW, he's one of a few strikers/forwards who we seem to be picking up who will be playing for younger youth groups - u16/u15/u14 etc.

 

[IGSpur]

I've been posting on the youth thread for 2-3 years that we are (and have been) very light on decent prospects coming through at striker - a fair number in different positions - and anywhere close to the first team, so I've been advocating buying in one or two to supplement our youth system.

If Tracey comes, he will (age wise) fit into Academy Year 2, so still a little way to go to the first team - and in the youth tournament that ended last night he seemed to be playing as a wide forward rather than striker, but he's a big lad powerful dribbling, decent speed without being fast, raw - which tbh is expected at this age - and could well be coached into being a striker. Looked quite effective in the IMG Cup so think we'll try to finalise a deal.

BTW, he's one of a few strikers/forwards who we seem to be picking up who will be playing for younger youth groups - u16/u15/u14 etc.

From what I have seen and read almost seems certain we will secure him, be crazy not to. Looks a good player, and can battle with Harrison, Sterling and Loft. Amazing how many players we have signed for that year group. Really shows how poor it was compared to other age groups, with only CCV and Maghoma the real standouts.

Still have faith in Harrison though

 

[RichieS]

I've been posting on the youth thread for 2-3 years that we are (and have been) very light on decent prospects coming through at striker - a fair number in different positions - and anywhere close to the first team, so I've been advocating buying in one or two to supplement our youth system.

If Tracey comes, he will (age wise) fit into Academy Year 2, so still a little way to go to the first team - and in the youth tournament that ended last night he seemed to be playing as a wide forward rather than striker, but he's a big lad powerful dribbling, decent speed without being fast, raw - which tbh is expected at this age - and could well be coached into being a striker. Looked quite effective in the IMG Cup so think we'll try to finalise a deal.

BTW, he's one of a few strikers/forwards who we seem to be picking up who will be playing for younger youth groups - u16/u15/u14 etc.

This could be a description of Kane!

 

[Spursidol]

From what I have seen and read almost seems certain we will secure him, be crazy not to. Looks a good player, and can battle with Harrison, Sterling and Loft. Amazing how many players we have signed for that year group. Really shows how poor it was compared to other age groups, with only CCV and Maghoma the real standouts.

Still have faith in Harrison though

yeah, CCV, Maghoma and Glover the standouts in that year group, Owens, Styliandes, Muscatt and Loft fine as squad players (at that age they may still develop into very good players - but may not) and the other outfield players we think will find other clubs before the end of the season. We tried to reinforce the year group with Azzaoui but of course he decided to move on. Adding a striker/WF into that group makes perfect sense as we've been short of those players as we've discussed before.

Harrison is a decent bet, more of a 9 and a half, very different style to Tracey. Loft more of a traditional no 9, Sterling more versatile than Loft, Oteh who we haven't seen that much of but seems a traditional no 9, then we seem to have a decent number in younger age groups .- but we are then looking at 4 years plus before we see them in first team contention (except maybe the odd appearance for experience).

We certainly need to have a group of young strikers as the odds of any one making it must be pretty low - think the club gambled for a couple of years that Coulthirst might make it but IMO that's been less and less likely for the last 3 years, can't see Sonupe (more a winger/striker) getting there either.

Curiously this run and shot reminded me a bit of Oduwa, of whom I still have hopes as a WF

Tottenham Academy‏@THFCacademy Dec 20
Shilow's run: @artangojaj123 pic.twitter.com/SX75waUAJ5

 

[Spursidol]

This could be a description of Kane!

Could be, but different player - see the gif on the post above.

 

[newbie]

yeah, CCV, Maghoma and Glover the standouts in that year group, Owens, Styliandes, Muscatt and Loft fine as squad players (at that age they may still develop into very good players - but may not) and the other outfield players we think will find other clubs before the end of the season. We tried to reinforce the year group with Azzaoui but of course he decided to move on. Adding a striker/WF into that group makes perfect sense as we've been short of those players as we've discussed before.

Harrison is a decent bet, more of a 9 and a half, very different style to Tracey. Loft more of a traditional no 9, Sterling more versatile than Loft, Oteh who we haven't seen that much of but seems a traditional no 9, then we seem to have a decent number in younger age groups .- but we are then looking at 4 years plus before we see them in first team contention (except maybe the odd appearance for experience).

We certainly need to have a group of young strikers as the odds of any one making it must be pretty low - think the club gambled for a couple of years that Coulthirst might make it but IMO that's been less and less likely for the last 3 years, can't see Sonupe (more a winger/striker) getting there either.

Curiously this run and shot reminded me a bit of Oduwa, of whom I still have hopes as a WF

Tottenham Academy‏@THFCacademy Dec 20
Shilow's run: @artangojaj123 pic.twitter.com/SX75waUAJ5

IG and spurs idol I think it's a really strong year, yes it looks week when you take KWP and Josh Onomah out but any accademy would be proud to have a year with KWP, CCV, glover, Onomah, Maghoma and Harrison that's 6 very strong players. Amos, Goddard, and georgiou and not to shabby either.

 

[Spursidol]

IG and spurs idol I think it's a really strong year, yes it looks week when you take KWP and Josh Onomah out but any accademy would be proud to have a year with KWP, CCV, glover, Onomah, Maghoma and Harrison that's 6 very strong players. Amos, Goddard, and georgiou and not to shabby either.

All the players you mention are very decent prospects - but only Glover, CCV and Maghoma are in that one year group. KWP, Onomah, Harrison, Amos and Goddard were in different year group

 

[newbie]

All the players you mention are very decent prospects - but only Glover, CCV and Maghoma are in that one year group. KWP, Onomah, Harrison, Amos and Goddard were in different year group

There all born 97 I thought the cut off was 31-12. Sorry

 

[Spursidol]

There all born 97 I thought the cut off was 31-12. Sorry

no probs. The academy intake year approximates to school year intakes

 

[newbie]

no probs. The academy intake year approximates to school year intakes

Thanks, So the intake Is school year but the prem cut off works by year, do youth tournaments and age groups work by year or school year ?

 

[Spursidol]

Thanks, So the intake Is school year but the prem cut off works by year, do youth tournaments and age groups work by year or school year ?

Youth tournaments can (and do) set their own rules ! The Academies only tend to follow school admission type dates because they are recruiting kids straight from school - it doesn't stop them recruiting lads a year late if that lad has been out injured for a year for example

A player can qualify to be an u21 player in a season provided that by the 1 January of the year the season starts (ie 1 January 2015 fir 2015/16) he has not attained the age of 21 - so by the end of the season that he qualifies to be an u21 for all of that season. he may actually be 22 .

So below age of about 21, there can be different rules for different situations

 

[13VanDerBale13]

i want us to sign him just because of how awesome his name is

 

[archiewasking]

Didn't he appear in Thunderbirds???!!

 

[IGSpur]

All the players you mention are very decent prospects - but only Glover, CCV and Maghoma are in that one year group. KWP, Onomah, Harrison, Amos and Goddard were in different year group

Even Glover and McDermott were recruited for that year. Really strage how unproductive it was though CCV and Maghoma were really advanced.

There all born 97 I thought the cut off was 31-12. Sorry

It's like that for international matches also. So all of those mentioned would be u19s at international level. but for the academy it is like school years. So that's why that year group appear weak. Though internationally looks good

 

[newbie]

Even Glover and McDermott were recruited for that year. Really strage how unproductive it was though CCV and Maghoma were really advanced.



It's like that for international matches also. So all of those mentioned would be u19s at international level. but for the academy it is like school years. So that's why that year group appear weak. Though internationally looks good

It will happen though you will get a weak year, however if you had added Azza to that year there are quite a few prospects,

 

[tiger666]

From @dovahkiin

topyid on coys: Shillow Tracey should be a spurs player in a few days
as you may remember he called this one before media had even heard of tracey. hes revealed his source as well, not sure its necessary to pass it on

 

[IGSpur]

It will happen though you will get a weak year, however if you had added Azza to that year there are quite a few prospects,

Of course but it's so interesting how you can get strong then weak groups developed purely from the academy, and that one is clearly the weakest in terms of numbers in recent times. The mere fact that they signed Azzaoui, Glover, McDermott, Tracey and tried to sign Yahaya shows how weak that year group was. Compare to the year above and below them where there wasn't a single recruitment that I can think of and even two years above where we only recruited Lesniak just shows how weak it was.

From @dovahkiin

topyid on coys: Shillow Tracey should be a spurs player in a few days
as you may remember he called this one before media had even heard of tracey. hes revealed his source as well, not sure its necessary to pass it on

Makes sense looks like he will be a good addition

 

[newbie]

Of course but it's so interesting how you can get strong then weak groups developed purely from the academy, and that one is clearly the weakest in terms of numbers in recent times. The mere fact that they signed Azzaoui, Glover, McDermott, Tracey and tried to sign Yahaya shows how weak that year group was. Compare to the year above and below them where there wasn't a single recruitment that I can think of and even two years above where we only recruited Lesniak just shows how weak it was.



Makes sense looks like he will be a good addition

Might be a blessing in a strange way gives a bit of space for the year below and might help them come on faster.

 

[South_GA_Yid]

Even Glover and McDermott were recruited for that year. Really strage how unproductive it was though CCV and Maghoma were really advanced.



It's like that for international matches also. So all of those mentioned would be u19s at international level. but for the academy it is like school years. So that's why that year group appear weak. Though internationally looks good

I know it goes off topic a bit, but here in the States, we just eliminated grouping by School year and went to Birth year to align with the rest of the world supposedly. Probably the most ridiculous decision made by US Soccer in ages. If what is said here is correct, that the professional academies group by school year, then it is even more absurd for the US to do this.