Hang on, I thought Tactics Tim said he had the best PL win ratio, whereas when you look at overall win ratio it's AVB who is top. That's not to decry Redknapp's achieving two top four places and producing a marvellous run in the CL, even if that may not have occurred without Super Pav in the qualifying game.
Situation at Spurs 'must be tough' on Jan Vertonghen - Harry Redknapp
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Gaz_Gammon
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Yeah you're right, fourth place is success and I loved seeing that bus going down Tottenham High Road parading the fourth place trophy and all those fourth place medals, it was such a happy day and I was so full of pride.
He's so much more successful than Bill and Keith isn't he?
If you understood my post i said "in PL history". Both your friends Bill and Keith didn't manage any PL club. Well as far as i can see on WiKi.
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Fourth place still isn't success and neither is champions league qualification. Oh and that second fourth was worth as much as AVB's fifth because he flirted with the FA and took his eye off the ball when he could have got third.
He should just stick to QPR
Gaz_Gammon
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Just saying that a Manager or Coach should be given fair cedit for what they did for the Club. People should be educated enough as to what Rdknapp is likely to say abaout a player when asked. His honesty is perhaps his downfall. At the end of the day if QPR could find a better manager to get them sraight back up then i for one could not see anyone better qualified.
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rupsmith
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Yeah you're right, fourth place is success and I loved seeing that bus going down Tottenham High Road parading the fourth place trophy and all those fourth place medals, it was such a happy day and I was so full of pride.
He's so much more successful than Bill and Keith isn't he?
I just don't understand this - he was the most successful manager we have had in the last 20 years. Who would you rather have?
I genuinely think that there are several people on this site who believe Harry to be some East End wheeler dealer because of his accent and how he comes across in the media. He has been consistently successful at every club he has been at (including the recently promoted QPR) and made us one of the best teams to watch when he was here. And unlike AVB (who a lot of people who criticise Harry seem to wish was still in charge) he wasn't reliant on a single player to carry us.
Sure he isn't some sophisticated corporate type when it comes to communication and the media but I frankly could not care less - he did an exceptional job and made us a stronger and better club where it mattered - on the pitch.
If guys like you want a communicator get AVB back or maybe Ron Burgundy.
Gaz_Gammon
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Ye jest of course on that statement.
I'd take Aresenal's dismal, terrible, worthless, record in the CL over ours any day of the week. And deep down so would 99% of all Spurs fans.
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Still amazes me how 'Arry's comments regarding Spurs boil so many peoples blood. He did an excellent job while being our manager and I for one was sad to see him go. However life goes on and I hope in Mauricio we now have a coach who can install a sense of pride again by playing attractive attacking football the way we all like it (as did 'Arry)
Anyone who thinks that Redknapp doesn't work the media for his own ends is naive. The case can be made that Redknapp failed to achieve the potential of the side, especially given that he had Modrić, Bale, Van der Vaart and Adebayor. Rupsmith decries the anti-Harry crowd as wishing AVB was still here, whereas the truth is that it is the Harry crowd within the supporters and in the media who undermined AVB at every step. The chorus of demands for HR as England manager will go up if the a England side wobbles in the next month.
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I agree.
"success" is relative. the period under harry was more "successful" than in the last 20 years barring the odd cup here or there.
Harry was right when he said that the spurs fans have a sense of entitlement - we do not have the right to expect anything given our current standing in the league. We should expect that the team will give their all and play some entertaining football.
Harry had us punching above our weight and did well. It went pear shaped and he had to go, but we should not discredit the period that he was with us as we played some fantastic football.
SlunkSoma
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I don't think any of the players thought Tim was staying. Unless he was the one telling them he would.
jolsnogross
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Harry derangement syndrome is rife among this community. He shouldn't talk and should have done better at Spurs apparently. He shouldn't want to manage his country either, apparently. And he should have gotten QPR an automatic promotion spot as well, apparently.
Great manager, great team builder, best Spurs manager in recent years, we'll do well to equal what he achieved for the foreseeable future, and good luck to him. I'm glad he's back in the top league and it'll be interesting to see how QPR get on this year.
Since his absurd sacking, Levy's been chasing Harry's Spurs and I suspect that chase will go on for a while. Hopefully Pochettino isn't measured against a 4th place finish while playing decent attacking footy for the coming season, because he may not get much time if he is.
Great manager, great team builder, best Spurs manager in recent years, we'll do well to equal what he achieved for the foreseeable future, and good luck to him. I'm glad he's back in the top league and it'll be interesting to see how QPR get on this year.
Since his absurd sacking, Levy's been chasing Harry's Spurs and I suspect that chase will go on for a while. Hopefully Pochettino isn't measured against a 4th place finish while playing decent attacking footy for the coming season, because he may not get much time if he is.
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One trophy in over 30 years and taken THREE different team to relegation. Waht a great manager
Why can he not say i am no longer Spurs manager and have nothing to say about them anymore?
Coyboy
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Redknapp said that they had agreed to sign him before he left Spurs and that he had seen him play a few times. I think there was ITK during Harry’s reign to that effect. So either you haven’t read the article or you are accusing Redknapp of blatant mendacity. If it’s the latter, prove it.
Either way, why does it matter? He was probably asked a question and he gave an answer. I don’t care what he said. I care when Spurs fans two years later still harbour resentment because it’s pathetic and inexplicable. It wasn’t as if he was a disaster for this club, quite the opposite. Also, the responses of ‘he should just say “it’s not my business”’ are futile because he’s never going to do that and what’s more, who cares if he does? He’s asked a question about a player he knows about and he gave an honest, complimentary answer.
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One trophy in over 30 years and taken THREE different team to relegation. Waht a great manager
Why can he not say i am no longer Spurs manager and have nothing to say about them anymore?
Why don't you go tell him to say that - I'm sure he will fall on hi. And also clearly according to you, any manager that isn't getting us trophies every year is a failure.
I agree actually, I'm still not sure why we didn't win the Champions League last year - oh yeah it's because we haven't been in it since Harry took us there.
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I just fuc#ing despair at some of the comments regarding Redknapp.
Absolutely clueless, moronic and some are so bloody dumb they cant even accept or realise what he did for us.
Maybe every silly bastard shouldn't have the right to free speech after all.
Bet more than half these pricks are armchair fans.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, why the hell do you think the fa were sniffing around our manager and why do you think fans of every other team were absolutely gob smacked when we sacked him?
Do you think Liverpool n Arsenal were thinking 'oh no, now they'll get someone in who pushs them into 3rd spot and we're gonna be in trouble. '
No they didn't. They danced a fuckin jig because anyone with the faintest idea about football knew it was stupid and would only ever result in us going backwards.
Well I hope your fuckin happy with how its going. Idiots.
Absolutely clueless, moronic and some are so bloody dumb they cant even accept or realise what he did for us.
Maybe every silly bastard shouldn't have the right to free speech after all.
Bet more than half these pricks are armchair fans.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, why the hell do you think the fa were sniffing around our manager and why do you think fans of every other team were absolutely gob smacked when we sacked him?
Do you think Liverpool n Arsenal were thinking 'oh no, now they'll get someone in who pushs them into 3rd spot and we're gonna be in trouble. '
No they didn't. They danced a fuckin jig because anyone with the faintest idea about football knew it was stupid and would only ever result in us going backwards.
Well I hope your fuckin happy with how its going. Idiots.
Harry was frustrating at the end of his time with us, his focus on the England job, lack of rotations (really wanted to see more of Kranjcar) and media mouth was annoying.
BUT...
I'm nearly 25 (limited in my spurs viewing) and that was the most excited ive been in a period watching us play. It wasn't complex but it worked, Harry had the team up for it for all the big matches. He gave enough confidence to recover from a 2-0 half time deficit at the emirates. I couldnt see Tim or AVB inspiring that. Under Redknapp we won the big games, AC Milan away, Inter at the Lane.
He picked a team that featured VDV, Modric and King, some of my favourite players. We were attacking, creative and stylish. The players had a determination and a will to win. Where is that now? His decision to bring Parker to the club was criticized but that was a great move. Harry is no mug.
That match at Inter Milan was very special. In recent years that was my favourite Spurs performance. That lethal combination of Bale, Modric and VDV was something very special.
Thanks for the memories Harry, sometimes I wish you kept your mouth shut, but I'm grateful for what you did at Spurs and I enjoyed your time at the club.
BUT...
I'm nearly 25 (limited in my spurs viewing) and that was the most excited ive been in a period watching us play. It wasn't complex but it worked, Harry had the team up for it for all the big matches. He gave enough confidence to recover from a 2-0 half time deficit at the emirates. I couldnt see Tim or AVB inspiring that. Under Redknapp we won the big games, AC Milan away, Inter at the Lane.
He picked a team that featured VDV, Modric and King, some of my favourite players. We were attacking, creative and stylish. The players had a determination and a will to win. Where is that now? His decision to bring Parker to the club was criticized but that was a great move. Harry is no mug.
That match at Inter Milan was very special. In recent years that was my favourite Spurs performance. That lethal combination of Bale, Modric and VDV was something very special.
Thanks for the memories Harry, sometimes I wish you kept your mouth shut, but I'm grateful for what you did at Spurs and I enjoyed your time at the club.
Dear Harry,
Fuck off, keep your mouth shut and worry about your QPR side. Just shut the fuck up. I've had it with your shit. Stop fucking commenting about Tottenham and sticking your god damn nose where it does not belong, FFS!
Sincerely,
yankspurs
Fuck off, keep your mouth shut and worry about your QPR side. Just shut the fuck up. I've had it with your shit. Stop fucking commenting about Tottenham and sticking your god damn nose where it does not belong, FFS!
Sincerely,
yankspurs
The deal was 'done' when Redknapp was still at the club, indeed Jan attended our last game of the season against Fulham.
If you honestly think we scouted, researched, negotiated and signed him in the month after Redknapp left then you're a bit naive.
And no I'm sure he doesn't 'call him up' but Redknapp has a point - a revolving door of coaches wouldn't be a situation a top player would thrive in or choose.
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