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(Slim) chance 5th gets CL this year...

SpursManChris

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I meant qualify for the group stage, not the knockout stage.
You'd take the money even if it meant finishing last in the group and having some humiliating thumpings and have it serve as a distraction and potentially give us a bad league start, losing vital points which we could need later in the season? I'd have to think about that one.
 

Ian Kane

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You'd take the money even if it meant finishing last in the group and having some humiliating thumpings and have it serve as a distraction and potentially give us a bad league start, losing vital points which we could need later in the season? I'd have to think about that one.

One for the over dramatics I see. You're making the assumption that next season will be the same as this. It won't. If we get Van Gaal/De Boer then our season will be drastically different from the bipolar season we've just had, even Pochetino would be head and shoulders above the garbage that's in charge now.

If we have the chance to be in the CL then we grab it with both hands.
 

SpursManChris

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If we get Van Gaal/De Boer then our season will be drastically different from the bipolar season we've just had, even Pochetino would be head and shoulders above the garbage that's in charge now.

We thought we had the right man in AVB. Remember?
 

Ian Kane

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We thought we had the right man in AVB. Remember?

So, what ? Is every manager in the world the same ? Van Gaal has won more than 99% of managers out there. If he gets the job do you think he'll fair no better than AVB ? Have no positive influence on our squad ? De Boer the same ?
 

beats1

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City's lawyers will tear an absolute hole into Uefa.

No chance.
On what grounds, you being in the CL is voluntary decision and not meeting the requirements set out 4/5 years ago is their own fault.

By the time they get to court the CL's would have started
 

CoopsieDeadpool

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That is never a positive whichever way you look at. If we did qualify I think we'd at least make the groups again and the extra cash and exposure would be worth a fortune.

If we qualified (we won't), we'd absolutely, 100% unquestionably make the groups, seeing as that is the next stage after actually qualifying :whistle:
 

CoopsieDeadpool

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Chelsea have?

I'll be a monkey's uncle. Get out of town.

Oh yes, I'm afraid, somehow, they have.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2013/12/31/uk-soccer-england-chelsea-loss-idUKBRE9BU0HD20131231

Chelsea comply with FFP rules despite $ 81 million deficit
BY TONY JIMENEZ

LONDON Tue Dec 31, 2013 6:28pm GMT


(Reuters) - Roman Abramovich's Chelsea will comply with new European Financial Fair Play (FFP) rules despite returning to loss for the year ending June 2013.

"Although the Europa League was won, a reduction in income from that success compared with winning the Champions League in 2012 contributed to a loss for the financial year of 49.4 million pounds ($81.64 million)," the club said in a statement on Tuesday.

FFP regulations state a club can have a deficit of no more than 45 million euros (37 million pounds) a year but head of communications Steve Atkins told Reuters that because of complicated accounting rules, Chelsea's actual loss was around 34 million pounds.

"Group turnover of 255.8 million pounds for the 12-month period is a record figure for the club despite elimination from the Champions League at the group stage last season," Chelsea said in their statement.

"A 19 percent rise in commercial income from 67 million to 79.6 million pounds is a clear indication Chelsea is moving in the right direction in terms of business growth, as is a turnover figure that increased for a fourth consecutive year despite diminished European competition revenue."

The year ending June 2012 was the first time Chelsea had made a profit since Russian oligarch Abramovich bought the club in 2003.

"The latest financial result combined with the previous year's profit of 1.4 million pounds means for the first monitoring period for FFP regulations - which spans the 2011/12 and 2012/13 seasons - we will fall comfortably within the break-even criteria set by UEFA," the club said.

"We have the fifth highest revenue of all football clubs in the world according to the latest published Deloitte figures."

Chelsea are performing creditably on the pitch this season.

With Jose Mourinho back holding the reins as coach for the second time, the team occupy third place in the Premier League and are through to the last 16 of the Champions League where they will meet former striker Didier Drogba's Galatasaray.

NEW PARTNERSHIPS

Chelsea have put pen to paper on major new partnerships with Audi, Delta and Azimut Hotels.

A 10-year extension to a global agreement with Adidas was announced in June 2013, meaning the financial boost from the biggest deal the club has yet to sign will be recorded in the 2013/14 accounts.

"From the very beginning of the current ownership of Chelsea...a long-term objective was financial sustainability and the subsequent implementation of Financial Fair Play by UEFA and by the Premier League has brought that to the top of the agenda for football clubs," said chairman Bruce Buck.

"By our own analysis we are progressing from a commercial viewpoint as well as continuing to add trophies to our collection which we never lose sight of as our most important goal."

Chelsea have altered their recruitment policy in recent years, investing in younger players like Belgian internationals Eden Hazard and Kevin De Bruyne and Brazil playmaker Oscar.

"Our philosophy is we build upon success on the pitch," said chief executive Ron Gourlay.

"Although in these financial results we haven't repeated the sizeable profits made the previous year from player transfers, we believe the age profile of the existing squad means we will benefit from that investment for many years to come."

($1 = 0.6051 British pounds)
 

Kingstheman

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Oh yes, I'm afraid, somehow, they have.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2013/12/31/uk-soccer-england-chelsea-loss-idUKBRE9BU0HD20131231

Chelsea comply with FFP rules despite $ 81 million deficit
BY TONY JIMENEZ

LONDON Tue Dec 31, 2013 6:28pm GMT


(Reuters) - Roman Abramovich's Chelsea will comply with new European Financial Fair Play (FFP) rules despite returning to loss for the year ending June 2013.

"Although the Europa League was won, a reduction in income from that success compared with winning the Champions League in 2012 contributed to a loss for the financial year of 49.4 million pounds ($81.64 million)," the club said in a statement on Tuesday.

FFP regulations state a club can have a deficit of no more than 45 million euros (37 million pounds) a year but head of communications Steve Atkins told Reuters that because of complicated accounting rules, Chelsea's actual loss was around 34 million pounds.

"Group turnover of 255.8 million pounds for the 12-month period is a record figure for the club despite elimination from the Champions League at the group stage last season," Chelsea said in their statement.

"A 19 percent rise in commercial income from 67 million to 79.6 million pounds is a clear indication Chelsea is moving in the right direction in terms of business growth, as is a turnover figure that increased for a fourth consecutive year despite diminished European competition revenue."

The year ending June 2012 was the first time Chelsea had made a profit since Russian oligarch Abramovich bought the club in 2003.

"The latest financial result combined with the previous year's profit of 1.4 million pounds means for the first monitoring period for FFP regulations - which spans the 2011/12 and 2012/13 seasons - we will fall comfortably within the break-even criteria set by UEFA," the club said.

"We have the fifth highest revenue of all football clubs in the world according to the latest published Deloitte figures."

Chelsea are performing creditably on the pitch this season.

With Jose Mourinho back holding the reins as coach for the second time, the team occupy third place in the Premier League and are through to the last 16 of the Champions League where they will meet former striker Didier Drogba's Galatasaray.

NEW PARTNERSHIPS

Chelsea have put pen to paper on major new partnerships with Audi, Delta and Azimut Hotels.

A 10-year extension to a global agreement with Adidas was announced in June 2013, meaning the financial boost from the biggest deal the club has yet to sign will be recorded in the 2013/14 accounts.

"From the very beginning of the current ownership of Chelsea...a long-term objective was financial sustainability and the subsequent implementation of Financial Fair Play by UEFA and by the Premier League has brought that to the top of the agenda for football clubs," said chairman Bruce Buck.

"By our own analysis we are progressing from a commercial viewpoint as well as continuing to add trophies to our collection which we never lose sight of as our most important goal."

Chelsea have altered their recruitment policy in recent years, investing in younger players like Belgian internationals Eden Hazard and Kevin De Bruyne and Brazil playmaker Oscar.

"Our philosophy is we build upon success on the pitch," said chief executive Ron Gourlay.

"Although in these financial results we haven't repeated the sizeable profits made the previous year from player transfers, we believe the age profile of the existing squad means we will benefit from that investment for many years to come."

($1 = 0.6051 British pounds)

I am dumbfounded.
 

Riandor

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Which just goes to show how pathetically inadequate and contradictive UEFA's ruling is. The whole idea of FFP is to prevent teams from qualifying for European competition by overspending. What have Liverpool done? Overspent. What is the outcome? Qualifying for the Champions League. But with this stupid clause UEFA have hamstrung themselves from actually doing anything to enforce FFP. It's the same with Monaco.
Correct, was my whole point... its a farce.
 

Riandor

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FFP regulations state a club can have a deficit of no more than 45 million euros (37 million pounds) a year but head of communications Steve Atkins told Reuters that because of complicated accounting rules, often known as creative accounting by very well paid accountants... Chelsea have conned their way into being compliant
 

CoopsieDeadpool

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I am dumbfounded.

Don't be, mate. As we all know, money talks, and Chel$ki (and Man City) have plenty of it. FIFA and UEFA are both more than aware that their competition(s) NEED the biggest clubs competing, to maintain full interest from spectators. Flagging interest = flagging value to their competition(s). So despite their numerous comments about teams who don't comply with FFP not being allowed to compete in their competition(s), I think the whole world knows it's nothing but bullshit.

We only have to look at the recent words from Peter Scudamore, regarding Man United's apparent decline. "It's not good for the Premier League" is what he said.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...he-Premier-League-says-Richard-Scudamore.html

When have you ever heard him say anything like that when Liverpoo or any other club was failing to qualify for the Champions League, or faltering in the Premier League?

Many supporters would think it's a good thing to see the bigger and richer clubs struggling, it means they/we get to see something new, something exciting. However, you know full well what Scudamore was on about, MONEY!! What he meant was, without Man United being at the top, or near the top, it is likely to mean the PL misses out on a few quid. We can't be having that now, can we? Fuck the fact that this is supposed to be, first and foremost, a sport, a competition, survival of the fittest. Nah, those days are gone. The only thing that matters now, is ££££££, $$$$$$$ and €€€€€€€€. Everything else takes a place on the back seat! :mad:
 

CoopsieDeadpool

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FFP regulations state a club can have a deficit of no more than 45 million euros (37 million pounds) a year but head of communications Steve Atkins told Reuters that because of complicated accounting rules, often known as creative accounting by very well paid accountants... Chelsea have conned their way into being compliant

@Riandor I guess we shouldn't be at all surprised, taking into account who their owner is, and how he amassed his fortune.

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