So close to being Top tier European Club

[leffe186]

Did you read the OP. That was my point which I think many have missed. In comparison to say United Arsenal even Chelsea as a whole entity we are very close. Even after Chelsea winning PL and CL I’m not sure they were ever viewed as a top top European club it all felt a bit fake. City for me feels more real and you can see them having a Dynasty. But I honestly think people are underestimating how much the stadium will change peoples perception of us. For me if we got the mega rich owner it would feel much more like City for us than Chelsea.

This is intriguing. What do you see as the difference between City and Chelsea?

 

[coys200]

This is intriguing. What do you see as the difference between City and Chelsea?

First I’d just say I don’t see any of this as fanciful. Of the top 6 we are the most likely to be sold. We all know ENIC are an investment company and they will cash in. Personally I’d be surprised if it was more than 5 years so all this could shortly be a reality. The major point is we do instantly have the ability to be a club like City or PSG.

The difference between City and Chelsea ? Well obviously City have more money and you feel they are really in it for the long haul. Where as Abramovich could walk away any moment. Obviously as well there is the stadium and the whole training infrastructure. To me it just feels much more solid like they’ve really built something.

 

[SpunkyBackpack]

While i am enjoying the discussion about how its super simple to just spend a load of money and magic a title winning team up like Man City (except for all the years they didnt do that) im more interested in how Levy just picks up a phone and sells the club, just like that.

"Hello? Operator? Get me the selling floor, i wish to cash in my football clu... oh hello Mr Sheik, yes it does, yes we can, one billion? Can you pick up tomorrow? Fantastic. Bye bye"

 

[danielneeds]

But that’s the whole point it’s only £200m which in terms of others spend is nothing. The whole buying cheap players and them coming good is all very noble but what have we won ? Who are the most successful English clubs in the last 10-15 years the ones that have spent the most (bar Leicester) if people think we will become a European super power buy picking up players like Grealish they are deluded. We’ve done incredibly well to get this far, but no club has dominated England let alone Europe without massive spending.

No, the point is even £200m on players means the owners will need £1.2bn just to get started. There are not many people who would be able or want to don that. City cost Mansour £200m.

 

[carmeldevil]

Did you read the OP. That was my point which I think many have missed. In comparison to say United Arsenal even Chelsea as a whole entity we are very close. Even after Chelsea winning PL and CL I’m not sure they were ever viewed as a top top European club it all felt a bit fake. City for me feels more real and you can see them having a Dynasty. But I honestly think people are underestimating how much the stadium will change peoples perception of us. For me if we got the mega rich owner it would feel much more like City for us than Chelsea.

Well if a free-spending owner buys the Spurs, then it'll be worth revisiting this topic. But right now it'll take serious money to join the top 5 and don't see Levy being motivated to do so even with a new stadium. I get your take but all at this point is wishful thinking.

 

[olliec]

Was just thinking we are literally a Levy phone call away from being up their with the very elite in Europe. The call would be “yes I will sell”. And then wo could sit right with the PSG City Madrid Barcelona. I doubt any club in Europe will have a better infrastructure than us added to being in London. Ok some may have slightly bigger stadium, but imo 62k considering the quality will be enough to be considered elite. I mean what are City about 53k I think. So there it is training facility, lodge,Stadium,manager and 80% of squad.

For me there’s probably about 5 or 6 I’d ship out tomorrow and replace with top quality that I feel would make us very serious CL contenders. I don’t even think it would cost that much. Also a new loaded owner would have plenty of FFP wriggle room. This is what I would do some might sound harsh.

Out: Aurier Davies(which x2 full backs is very debatable) wanyama dembele llorente Nkoudou. If done in January and throw maybe a janssen and Onomah I reckon we could get £100m for that.( obviously this is all fantasy but just trying to demonstrate how little it may cost)

In: x2 FB 100m DM 50m CM 70m AM 70m ST 30m.

So Net would be £200m which to a City type owner is chicken feed. We must seem a hugely attractive proposition to the right buyer. In fact it makes you wonder that if Levy sat down and did these numbers he must realise how close we are. You’d think if he can find £1bn for a stadium he could rustle up another £200m. Anyway the point of all this was just to show how very close we are to being a top 5 European club. Just to say don’t want to make this a player specific transfer thread as obviously the transfer forum is open, more interesting if people think I’m deluded ? or we really are that close and even with a new mega money owner we’d be considered as elite.

I’m laughing at the 100m for those players you mentioned. Be lucky if you get 10m for an ageing injury prone Dembele. Wanyama
Also injury prone. Llorente will probably be released on a free transfer and the others you mentioned will not add upto an extra 80m. Be lucky if we get 50m. I think somebody has been on the juju.

 

[coys200]

I’m laughing at the 100m for those players you mentioned. Be lucky if you get 10m for an ageing injury prone Dembele. Wanyama
Also injury prone. Llorente will probably be released on a free transfer and the others you mentioned will not add upto an extra 80m. Be lucky if we get 50m. I think somebody has been on the juju.

We’d get £50m for davies and Aurier alone. Davies is 25 and was probably 2nd best PL LB to Robertson last season.

 

[Singayid]

But if Utd sell 6 players and use their infrastructure to fund buying half a new team they could be kings of Europe.

It is funny that anyone thinks it is that easy.

Not under Maureen they can't ?

 

[razzmaster]

lol doesn't this just prove my point? Ok first of all, Toby only ever played 12 games from A. Madrid, I wouldn't call that being involved in a title challenge. So we have 2 players who have won the Dutch league playing for Ajax. That obviously does not qualify for the point that I'm making.

Lloris has won the world cup, yes, but even so he doesn't strike me as a strong-willed leader.

Lloris, Aurier, Toby, Jan, Eriksen, Son, Llorente, Moura, Wanyama, Davies and Dembele have all won leagues or cups with previous clubs or country.

 

[ralvy]

Oh look, another poster who wants us to become the play thing of some rich asshole in exchange of some trophies.

What the OP is failing to see is that 99.9% of the fun of becoming a top club is the journey it takes to get there. If it never happens, well, it never happens, but a destination doesn't really have any meaning without the journey it takes to get there. What clubs like Chelsea, City and PSG have done is accepting a short cut in exchange of their souls and, thus, reaching a destination devoid of most of its meaning.

 

[dontcallme]

Lloris, Aurier, Toby, Jan, Eriksen, Son, Llorente, Moura, Wanyama, Davies and Dembele have all won leagues or cups with previous clubs or country.

Yeah but those ones don’t count apparently.

 

[Shadydan]

This thread is fucking wild

 

[Nerine]

I bet you're the type to save before every match on Football Manager.

 

[thebenjamin]

Was just thinking we are literally a Levy phone call away from being up their with the very elite in Europe. The call would be “yes I will sell”. And then wo could sit right with the PSG City Madrid Barcelona. I doubt any club in Europe will have a better infrastructure than us added to being in London. Ok some may have slightly bigger stadium, but imo 62k considering the quality will be enough to be considered elite. I mean what are City about 53k I think. So there it is training facility, lodge,Stadium,manager and 80% of squad.

For me there’s probably about 5 or 6 I’d ship out tomorrow and replace with top quality that I feel would make us very serious CL contenders. I don’t even think it would cost that much. Also a new loaded owner would have plenty of FFP wriggle room. This is what I would do some might sound harsh.

Out: Aurier Davies(which x2 full backs is very debatable) wanyama dembele llorente Nkoudou. If done in January and throw maybe a janssen and Onomah I reckon we could get £100m for that.( obviously this is all fantasy but just trying to demonstrate how little it may cost)

In: x2 FB 100m DM 50m CM 70m AM 70m ST 30m.

So Net would be £200m which to a City type owner is chicken feed. We must seem a hugely attractive proposition to the right buyer. In fact it makes you wonder that if Levy sat down and did these numbers he must realise how close we are. You’d think if he can find £1bn for a stadium he could rustle up another £200m. Anyway the point of all this was just to show how very close we are to being a top 5 European club. Just to say don’t want to make this a player specific transfer thread as obviously the transfer forum is open, more interesting if people think I’m deluded ? or we really are that close and even with a new mega money owner we’d be considered as elite.

City have spent €3.4 billion to get where they are

 

[dontcallme]

City have spent €3.4 billion to get where they are

So if we spend £3.5billion we will ‘win.’

Why doesn’t Levy just do that? Tight bastard.

 

[dontcallme]

Then we have Joe Lewis who owns a yacht and buys artwork.

Why can’t everyone associated just give all their money to the club? It’s what Tiny Tim would have wanted.

Bunch of pricks.

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

Oh look, another poster who wants us to become the play thing of some rich asshole in exchange of some trophies.

What the OP is failing to see is that 99.9% of the fun of becoming a top club is the journey it takes to get there. If it never happens, well, it never happens, but a destination doesn't really have any meaning without the journey it takes to get there. What clubs like Chelsea, City and PSG have done is accepting a short cut in exchange of their souls and, thus, reaching a destination devoid of most of its meaning.

If only Plato or Aristotle were Spurs fans

 

[scat1620]

Oh look, another poster who wants us to become the play thing of some rich asshole in exchange of some trophies.

Ignoring the unrealistic premise of this thread, if someone could magically offer Spurs even a single Premier League or Champions League title in exchange for being the plaything of a rich asshole, I'd take that deal all day every day. I've had plenty of journey, thanks, and wouldn't say no to some destination.

 

[Spurrific]

I remember when I had my first beer

 

[jonnyrotten]

The laughing emoji exactly demonstrate my point. You or other people can’t take seriously how close we actually are and will always perceive us as little old Tottenham. You can say oh well any club could do a city but not as well as we could currently do it. Plus other Clubs have hurdles. Chelsea need a new stadium, Arsenal are about to go into massive debt with kroenke, United is a mess from top to bottom and need massive stadium work as well, Everton need the stadium.

I don't want us to "do a city". I want us to do it the way we are doing it, for it will be all the more glorious if we do win.