Spurs v West Ham Team

[Coyboy]

there are teams lesser than West Ham?

Tblisi reserves.

 

[sloth]

To start with, I'm not sure he has been really.

Secondly, even if he has been great this season, you have to pick the right players for the right game and if West Ham sit back then I'm not sure how much Townsends pace is really going to help us.

I think that occasionally people get fixated on one aspect and it dominates their thinking such that their opinions become skewed.

For example it's known that people rate the chances of being caught up in a terrorist incident as far, far higher than they really are whereas on the other hand they may not rate the chances of being caught up in a serious road traffic accident that highly at all. This is because of, apparently, the ease of recall due to the dramatic, impactful wall-to-wall pictures and reports which flow from a terrorist attack, but which don't flow so often from an RTA which means when we're asked to rate a risk our brain can quickly summon images of terror attacks and less easily those of RTAs. In other words it's not risk we're rating but substituting ease of recall. Ironically it's the very ubiquity of RTA over Terror attacks which means they are reported less and so we are confronted less by the them and so their risk is down-graded.

In the case of Townsend, in a particular game he made repeated and noticeable shots on goal, by his fifth or sixth shot we were all groaning, it was like being hit in the same spot repeatedly - on its own no single hit hurt, but over time it starts to really grate - shot 8 and 9 and we were screaming at the fucker not to do it, and we knew he would never score. I believe that one match with those repeated shots drummed into people's heads a version of Townsend which over-shadows and skews people's perception of reality, which is that Townsend has been outstanding this season, no team has been able to handle him, he's done it to players with big and small reputations alike, he's created numerous clear-cut chances in the box, in short he's been fucking magnificent (albeit a bit shit when it comes to shooting!).

In terms of West Ham sitting back then he is exactly the player we want, because we need someone who can inject a bit of magic on his own, and for Townsend it's less about pure pace, he's no Bale, Walcott or Lennon though he's quick, but about close dribbling skills at speed and his ability to look up and play the little through-ball, and yes, it's also about his shooting ability, which despite appearances is actually pretty good.

Holtby, on the other hand, is looking pretty decent these days, but he or Eriksen need the likes of Gylfi, Paulinho and Townsend coming inside with late surges to pick out with their through-balls, play both of them and I think we're more likely to suffer against a withdrawn defence because you'll have two people trying to operate between the lines and one less trying to get beyond them.

 

[playboypaul]

Use this11.com for tactics for football

The back five pick themselves really. Only if is Rose, if he is unfit then I suppose Naughton has to go in there.

The midfield is so tricky to pick due to our insane amount of options and the need to keep everyone happy, in form, involved, fit etc. Also weighing those things up against the needs for the style we want to impose on a particular opponent makes the decision that bit harder.

Anyway, I decided to go with Sandro and Holtby as the 'two'. Sandro needs to be brought back in to the league team to help bring him up to speed and Spam seem a good opportunity to do this. I cant imagine him being too tested here and it would give Paulinho and Dembele further rest as they have both played a lot recently. I don't want to see Dembele burnt out like he was last season and the spectre of his hip injury looming large in the background is something that I would always consider. We need him for the big matches so resting him for Spam is giving others a chance and him recuperation time. Paulinho looked knackered against the chavs. A bit more rest will do him the world of good. Obviously they wold both be on the bench and at least one of them is likely to get minutes as Sandro might not be able to last a full 90 in the league yet.

Holtby has played his way in to the team as far as I am concerned. His performances in the Europa League have been excellent and he deserves a chance to transfer that to the league campaign. With Paulinho and Dembele needing a rest and Holtby deserving a start it works out well. I think Sandro and Holtby will complement each other really well.

Townsend is playing well but I would like to see him playing from the left. Getting to the by-line and putting crosses in. Eriksen as the ten is a given (for now) and I would play Lamela on the right. I think Spam will be a good game for him to start. They will park the bus and him and Soldado seem to play well together. Good, on the floor football, add in Holtby and Eriksen and I really think we can tear Spam a new one. If it clicks then it will be great for Lamela's and Soldado's confidence. I would also like to see a bit more inter-changing of positions from our attacking players. We seem very static at the moment, even predictable dare I say it? I would like to see Lamela and Townsend swapping flanks regularly.

Soldado starts this one for me as I just think that things are going to click for him here. If not, then I would drop him down to the Europa and give Defoe the next league match and see how things go for Soldado in the Europa and JD in the league.

 

[sloth]

How enlightening.

Sandro has played against lesser teams than Chelsea, and West Ham.

How does that make a difference to your argument? You said we lost the midfield against Chelsea (or some such) and therefore we should play Sandro so we don't lose the midfield against West Ham. However Chelsea are not West Ham, we not only lost the midfield against Chelsea because we didn't have Sandro, but because they had a fucking strong midfield and team as a whole, had they been not as strong then in all likelihood we wouldn't have lost the midfield as we didn't in any of our previous five matches.

 

[sloth]

Use this11.com for tactics for football

The back five pick themselves really. Only if is Rose, if he is unfit then I suppose Naughton has to go in there.

The midfield is so tricky to pick due to our insane amount of options and the need to keep everyone happy, in form, involved, fit etc. Also weighing those things up against the needs for the style we want to impose on a particular opponent makes the decision that bit harder.

Anyway, I decided to go with Sandro and Holtby as the 'two'. Sandro needs to be brought back in to the league team to help bring him up to speed and Spam seem a good opportunity to do this. I cant imagine him being too tested here and it would give Paulinho and Dembele further rest as they have both played a lot recently. I don't want to see Dembele burnt out like he was last season and the spectre of his hip injury looming large in the background is something that I would always consider. We need him for the big matches so resting him for Spam is giving others a chance and him recuperation time. Paulinho looked knackered against the chavs. A bit more rest will do him the world of good. Obviously they wold both be on the bench and at least one of them is likely to get minutes as Sandro might not be able to last a full 90 in the league yet.

Holtby has played his way in to the team as far as I am concerned. His performances in the Europa League have been excellent and he deserves a chance to transfer that to the league campaign. With Paulinho and Dembele needing a rest and Holtby deserving a start it works out well. I think Sandro and Holtby will complement each other really well.

Townsend is playing well but I would like to see him playing from the left. Getting to the by-line and putting crosses in. Eriksen as the ten is a given (for now) and I would play Lamela on the right. I think Spam will be a good game for him to start. They will park the bus and him and Soldado seem to play well together. Good, on the floor football, add in Holtby and Eriksen and I really think we can tear Spam a new one. If it clicks then it will be great for Lamela's and Soldado's confidence. I would also like to see a bit more inter-changing of positions from our attacking players. We seem very static at the moment, even predictable dare I say it? I would like to see Lamela and Townsend swapping flanks regularly.

Soldado starts this one for me as I just think that things are going to click for him here. If not, then I would drop him down to the Europa and give Defoe the next league match and see how things go for Soldado in the Europa and JD in the league.

Man, talk about arm-chair management. I haven't seen anything to suggest Holtby has the discipline for CM, he's only just showing evidence that he's got what it takes in the number 10 role. I think people mistake his scrappy-doo eagerness for defensive rigour, and yet when he has played positions which have required discipline he's been the proverbial kid in the play-ground rushing about here there and everywhere and leaving gaping holes where he should have been.

Sandro also just had a big, and tough game in Moscow, he doesn't need another game straight after. Leaving aside he wouldn't be the optimum pick for this match anyway.

Townsend on the left with a right-footed LB is not such a bad call but it means we leave out our top goal-scorer. And Lamela on the right could be good, but with the number of changes you've made the team's in danger of being a disjointed mess.

Finally, there's an international break after West Ham, so many will get a rest then.

 

[Blake Griffin]

unchanged side i suspect

lloris​

walker dawson vertonghen naughton​

paulinho dembele​

townsend eriksen sigurdsson​

soldadoh​

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subs: friedel, chiriches, sandro, lamela, holtby, chadli, defoe​

 

[Strikeb4ck]

Lloris​

Walker - Dawson - Verts - Rose​

Paulinho - Dembele​

Townsend - Holtby - Eriksen​

Soldado​

 

[kaz Hirai]

hopefully this is the game were the attack clicks, Soldado needs goals and someone needs a good thrashing to up our GD. Might as well be Scum Lites.

 

[robp135]

I would start Defoe.

 

[gushayes11]

Dembele has to start. Looks awesome at the moment. Especially his dribbling skills.

 

[DiamondLites]

Hope chadli starts instead of siggy, I know siggy has got a few goals but his all round play has been pretty pedestrian as far as I'm concerned. Also chadli is a unit, siggy gets knocked over by a stiff breeze and when playing against a team managed by a Toby jug with slightly less charisma, it safe to say there will be a fair bit of strong arm tactics

The rest of the team picks itself, especially with kaboul's injury and I don't think Lamela is ready for the kind of shoeing he'd get from those morons. Would like townsy and chadli to swap from time to time and give Soldado some different looks on front of goal. Do not start Defoe, I repeat do not start Defoe for the love of god. Super sub should be his role and it's one he performs well

 

[DaSpurs]

Hope chadli starts instead of siggy, I know siggy has got a few goals but his all round play has been pretty pedestrian as far as I'm concerned. Also chadli is a unit, siggy gets knocked over by a stiff breeze and when playing against a team managed by a Toby jug with slightly less charisma, it safe to say there will be a fair bit of strong arm tactics

The rest of the team picks itself, especially with kaboul's injury and I don't think Lamela is ready for the kind of shoeing he'd get from those morons. Would like townsy and chadli to swap from time to time and give Soldado some different looks on front of goal. Do not start Defoe, I repeat do not start Defoe for the love of god. Super sub should be his role and it's one he performs well

Gotta disagree. Siggy has shown the ability to shoot from range this season, which could come in quite handy against a stacked in defense that they will likely employ. He also makes good runs into the box and scores scrappy goals, just the kinds of things you need against West Ham.

 

[Coyboy]

How does that make a difference to your argument? You said we lost the midfield against Chelsea (or some such) and therefore we should play Sandro so we don't lose the midfield against West Ham. However Chelsea are not West Ham, we not only lost the midfield against Chelsea because we didn't have Sandro, but because they had a fucking strong midfield and team as a whole, had they been not as strong then in all likelihood we wouldn't have lost the midfield as we didn't in any of our previous five matches.

Yes but I don't see that Chelsea game necessarily as a one off and think we need Sandro or Capoue in there regularly; just like last season or the season before (with Parker or Sandro).

 

[sim0n]

Lloris​

Walker Dawson Verts Rose​

Paulinho Dembele​

Townsend Holtby Eriksen​

GOLdado​

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too bad lamela hasn't settled yet because I'd love to see the 3 attcking mids be lamaela, holtby, and eriksen to see how that line up would do.... but IMO the starting 11 above will tear he spammers apart,..... I think we all know AVB will actually start sigi on the left (for holtby above) with moving eriksen into the middle,.... but what they hey, just trying to get holtby in there...​

COYS!!!!!! ​

 

[dondo]

unchanged side i suspect

lloris​

walker dawson vertonghen naughton​

paulinho dembele​

townsend eriksen sigurdsson​

soldadoh​

​

subs: friedel, chiriches, sandro, lamela, holtby, chadli, defoe​

Be v suprised if this is not the team no need for radical changes at the mo

 

[Riandor]

Ticking along nicely.
Other than due to injuries i think the team will remain unchanged for this one. Its great to have so many options!

 

[EnfieldYiddo]

Expect to see same team we saw vs Chelsea tbh

 

[markieboy]

If we want to get the best out of Soldado then we might need to change the system to a 4-4-1-1,we need wingers getting to the byeline and getting balls into the box.
Soldado is not the kind of striker who creates goals for himself or scores from outside the box.
Looking at the type of goals we have scored under AVB they have been predominantly scored from outside the 18 yard box from the likes of Bale and Defoe.
Soldado ain't that type of striker and if he is going to be successful we need wingers feeding him with low crosses into the box and a playmaker like Eriksen sitting behind him and playing short passes into the box for him.

 

[Flatters]

Identical starting eleven and subs as against Chelsea I expect

 

[Misfit]

Give Moose a rest. Give Sandro a start alongside Pauli. Eriksen in front of them you'd think considering Holtby started on Thurs. I'd just like see a winger play as a winger and not inverted for this game. Give Bobby a chance of getting on the end of a couple of crosses at least.

Our FBs needs nudging along too. Time for them, at least Walker anyway until Rose is back, to actually become an attacking threat.