Match Threads Spurs vs Man City - Match Thread

[spursfan77]

Anyone know why they didn’t have any replays on in the ground?

 

[Sweetsman]

Anyone know why they didn’t have any replays on in the ground?

Because I might have tried to kill Kevin Friend.

 

[spursfan77]

Just seen Kane’s first half miss. That was as bad as lamela’s for me.

I didn’t think his first touch was bad to get the ball out of his feet, the problem was that his acceleration has completely gone. In all of the last three seasons he gets a shot off there.

I just don’t know how he gets that umpf back.

 

[T-Love92]

Tbh i expected a lot worse performance and a more onesided game. (have to say I have only seen the 2nd half live)

If we had Eriksen and Dele on from the start and Kane in form we could have won. Think the effort was good, Sissoko with the best game since joining us - german pundits raving about Sissoko probably the best player on the pitch (a bit OTT for me ) but credit where credits due.

Trippier and Davies absoluetly out of form - a big problem, considering the importance of fullbacks in Pochs system. Walker wasn't any better yesterday though.

Winks have to start from now on, he is a lively spark in a stubborn midfield.

If Lamela hit that ball properly, we would have draw that game - think it is the pitch to blame a bit, but I don't want to blame the pitch for our shortcoming, think it played a part in City not being able to be at their best attacking wise too.

It highlighted once again for me that we are not much away from challenging those sides. But we should have invested in 2-3 quality back ups in crucial positions. Kane, Dele/Eriksen and a CM backup are desperatly needed. You could see what difference it made when Dele and Eriksen started to open up their defence while Winks managed to carry the ball out from the back.

 

[TheChosenOne]

What did you make of Gary Neville's post-match comments about Poch leaving?

Just seen this.

Personally I don't believe Poch is leaving/thinking of leaving. If I am wrong I'll come right out and admit it, not that it will be any consolation.

With regard to G.Nev though - He talks some good stuff and has a nice trophy cabinet somewhere full of all his medals accumulated during his career.

I think he came out with a good defence of the alleged Poch situation, transfers (lack of lol) and the stadium clusterbundle. Many a time he has come out and agreed and supporter the 'unique' Spurs way of doing things and he will call us out for lack of trophies etc.

My only reservation with this whole scenario is the media - driving stories to create headlines for sensationalism and the Carragher /Neville show being a good cop bad cop headline grabber.

Are Sky playing Devils Advocate and promoting and prolonging a story to get headlines ? If so it definitely is working.

Poch has intimated that he was grumpy at that presser and a IMO lot of stuff he says gets 'misinterpreted' by clickbait football info whores - Geoff Shreeves came out and said as much yesterday following a talk with Poch, lost in translation was what he made of a lot of it.

I love scooping up every bit of Spurs info from many diverse sources throughout the internet but I am ever so sceptical now with some of the gutter journos and I refuse to look at their shit stirring.

 

[mightyspur]

So the 'Golden Age' is over.
Pochettino has gone
and all the players departed
that got us into the CL recently.
Funny I must have missed all that
in the Stadium nonsense.

We were narrowly beaten by the team
odds on to win the league
and should have drawn at least.
Nothing to do with bottle, killer instinct, mental toughness
or all the other psychological bullshit
body language or whatever.
Lamela's shot set up by Dele goes in
and we are the new world champions
nearly.

I read all your posts whilst pretending to sing like Frank Sinatra.

I did it MYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY WAAAYYYYYYY

 

[mil1lion]

Just seen Kane’s first half miss. That was as bad as lamela’s for me.

I didn’t think his first touch was bad to get the ball out of his feet, the problem was that his acceleration has completely gone. In all of the last three seasons he gets a shot off there.

I just don’t know how he gets that umpf back.

I don't think he ever had the pace to get on that. It's as if people think he had pace before his injury. He looks sharp of late to me. Our final ball to him is generally the big issue. He'll start firing once Eriksen and Alli hit form.

 

[brendanb50]

Just seen Kane’s first half miss. That was as bad as lamela’s for me.

I didn’t think his first touch was bad to get the ball out of his feet, the problem was that his acceleration has completely gone. In all of the last three seasons he gets a shot off there.

I just don’t know how he gets that umpf back.

Agree it was a poor miss for a player like Kane but perhaps if another keeper had been in goal he'd still have had time to hit that. Ederson is very quick off his line and good with his feet - completely shut down any chance Kane had to recover from the heavy touch but a moments hesitation from him would have.

 

[brendanb50]

Just seen this.

Personally I don't believe Poch is leaving/thinking of leaving. If I am wrong I'll come right out and admit it, not that it will be any consolation.

With regard to G.Nev though - He talks some good stuff and has a nice trophy cabinet somewhere full of all his medals accumulated during his career.

I think he came out with a good defence of the alleged Poch situation, transfers (lack of lol) and the stadium clusterbundle. Many a time he has come out and agreed and supporter the 'unique' Spurs way of doing things and he will call us out for lack of trophies etc.

My only reservation with this whole scenario is the media - driving stories to create headlines for sensationalism and the Carragher /Neville show being a good cop bad cop headline grabber.

Are Sky playing Devils Advocate and promoting and prolonging a story to get headlines ? If so it definitely is working.

Poch has intimated that he was grumpy at that presser and a IMO lot of stuff he says gets 'misinterpreted' by clickbait football info whores - Geoff Shreeves came out and said as much yesterday following a talk with Poch, lost in translation was what he made of a lot of it.

I love scooping up every bit of Spurs info from many diverse sources throughout the internet but I am ever so sceptical now with some of the gutter journos and I refuse to look at their shit stirring.

Agree on this too - i think Poch is a bit stuck for options in his team and he probably knows he's getting everything he can out of what he has at the moment. It's frustrating but he's still performing excellently as our coach.

For me, barring a complete breakdown in communications/relationships, he'll see us into our new stadium (with us for at least another season) and i hope is backed to at least make one or two additions in due course. I know the money is tighter now than it should be but there's a couple of positions we absolutely need to strengthen.

 

[brendanb50]

Tbh i expected a lot worse performance and a more onesided game. (have to say I have only seen the 2nd half live)

If we had Eriksen and Dele on from the start and Kane in form we could have won. Think the effort was good, Sissoko with the best game since joining us - german pundits raving about Sissoko probably the best player on the pitch (a bit OTT for me ) but credit where credits due.

Trippier and Davies absoluetly out of form - a big problem, considering the importance of fullbacks in Pochs system. Walker wasn't any better yesterday though.

Winks have to start from now on, he is a lively spark in a stubborn midfield.

If Lamela hit that ball properly, we would have draw that game - think it is the pitch to blame a bit, but I don't want to blame the pitch for our shortcoming, think it played a part in City not being able to be at their best attacking wise too.

It highlighted once again for me that we are not much away from challenging those sides. But we should have invested in 2-3 quality back ups in crucial positions. Kane, Dele/Eriksen and a CM backup are desperatly needed. You could see what difference it made when Dele and Eriksen started to open up their defence while Winks managed to carry the ball out from the back.

Agreed - good post.

I also expected a worse performance on the whole - whilst city did some of what i expected (bossing possession) they weren't as ruthless as i expected. The most frustrating part of the night was still the error for the goal. Such a nothing header that any defender should be dealing with easily. As you note our fullbacks are costing us at the moment, we need more in both attack and defence from both sides.

I still live in hope that KWP gets a look in somewhere.

 

[mil1lion]

Here's the Carragher/Neville debate:

https://www.skysports.com/football/...nd-jamie-carragher-in-heated-tottenham-debate

As it happened I agree with Carragher....in tens years time we will look back on this 4-5 year period under Poch and see it for the missed opportunity it was.

The realist (Neville) versus the dreamer (Carragher). We've had many debates similar to this over the years. I agree with Carragher to an extent because we all want to challenge for titles and we have to spend to do that. I also agree with Neville though, we can only spend what we have and this amazing stadium has restricted us. For me it's a debate over doing things our way and not giving into the wealthy billionaires club. Versus selling up to a billionaire and throwing money for success. The longer we go without winning things the more we'll want the latter.

It will be amazing if we do it our way though but the more teams like City dominate the less likely we can do it. This league has turned into a super league. We're looking at Liverpool, City and Chelsea continue to win week in and week out. It's getting to a point now where you have to beat every team outside the top 6 home and away to challenge for the title. Then win the top games to decide it. My heart sides with Neville because I want us to be different, my head sides with Carragher because I don't believe it's possible now. This is now a billionaires playground and if you can't beat them join them.

 

[mil1lion]

Just seen this.

Personally I don't believe Poch is leaving/thinking of leaving. If I am wrong I'll come right out and admit it, not that it will be any consolation.

With regard to G.Nev though - He talks some good stuff and has a nice trophy cabinet somewhere full of all his medals accumulated during his career.

I think he came out with a good defence of the alleged Poch situation, transfers (lack of lol) and the stadium clusterbundle. Many a time he has come out and agreed and supporter the 'unique' Spurs way of doing things and he will call us out for lack of trophies etc.

My only reservation with this whole scenario is the media - driving stories to create headlines for sensationalism and the Carragher /Neville show being a good cop bad cop headline grabber.

Are Sky playing Devils Advocate and promoting and prolonging a story to get headlines ? If so it definitely is working.

Poch has intimated that he was grumpy at that presser and a IMO lot of stuff he says gets 'misinterpreted' by clickbait football info whores - Geoff Shreeves came out and said as much yesterday following a talk with Poch, lost in translation was what he made of a lot of it.

I love scooping up every bit of Spurs info from many diverse sources throughout the internet but I am ever so sceptical now with some of the gutter journos and I refuse to look at their shit stirring.

Pochettino quickly debunked that talk before the game. In his interview he suggested his comments were about motivating his players for the match. He seemed a lot happier before and even after this game. I think he's a victim of being honest at times. His comments were just him being open and speaking his mind. I don't think it's because he plans to leave anytime soon. He said he will be here when we move into the new stadium and he's a man of his word.

 

[Graysonti]

Just seen this.

Personally I don't believe Poch is leaving/thinking of leaving. If I am wrong I'll come right out and admit it, not that it will be any consolation.

With regard to G.Nev though - He talks some good stuff and has a nice trophy cabinet somewhere full of all his medals accumulated during his career.

I think he came out with a good defence of the alleged Poch situation, transfers (lack of lol) and the stadium clusterbundle. Many a time he has come out and agreed and supporter the 'unique' Spurs way of doing things and he will call us out for lack of trophies etc.

My only reservation with this whole scenario is the media - driving stories to create headlines for sensationalism and the Carragher /Neville show being a good cop bad cop headline grabber.

Are Sky playing Devils Advocate and promoting and prolonging a story to get headlines ? If so it definitely is working.

Poch has intimated that he was grumpy at that presser and a IMO lot of stuff he says gets 'misinterpreted' by clickbait football info whores - Geoff Shreeves came out and said as much yesterday following a talk with Poch, lost in translation was what he made of a lot of it.

I love scooping up every bit of Spurs info from many diverse sources throughout the internet but I am ever so sceptical now with some of the gutter journos and I refuse to look at their shit stirring.

Great post

 

[Graysonti]

So the 'Golden Age' is over.
Pochettino has gone
and all the players departed
that got us into the CL recently.
Funny I must have missed all that
in the Stadium nonsense.

We were narrowly beaten by the team
odds on to win the league
and should have drawn at least.
Nothing to do with bottle, killer instinct, mental toughness
or all the other psychological bullshit
body language or whatever.
Lamela's shot set up by Dele goes in
and we are the new world champions
nearly.

Great post - perspective

In a few months we will be in the best stadium in the country and will win a couple of games - watch everyone go overboard the other way.

Now ENIC need to step up to the plate and invest in our squad - not City amounts but we need to show we are a football club first and foremost

 

[markiespurs]

Because I might have tried to kill Kevin Friend.

You would have had to have joined a very long line last night

Piss poor performance from Friend last night

 

[Deleted member 27995]

Just seen this.

Personally I don't believe Poch is leaving/thinking of leaving. If I am wrong I'll come right out and admit it, not that it will be any consolation.

With regard to G.Nev though - He talks some good stuff and has a nice trophy cabinet somewhere full of all his medals accumulated during his career.

I think he came out with a good defence of the alleged Poch situation, transfers (lack of lol) and the stadium clusterbundle. Many a time he has come out and agreed and supporter the 'unique' Spurs way of doing things and he will call us out for lack of trophies etc.

My only reservation with this whole scenario is the media - driving stories to create headlines for sensationalism and the Carragher /Neville show being a good cop bad cop headline grabber.

Are Sky playing Devils Advocate and promoting and prolonging a story to get headlines ? If so it definitely is working.

Poch has intimated that he was grumpy at that presser and a IMO lot of stuff he says gets 'misinterpreted' by clickbait football info whores - Geoff Shreeves came out and said as much yesterday following a talk with Poch, lost in translation was what he made of a lot of it.

I love scooping up every bit of Spurs info from many diverse sources throughout the internet but I am ever so sceptical now with some of the gutter journos and I refuse to look at their shit stirring.

Well said, cracking balanced post.

 

[tony0379]

I read all your posts whilst pretending to sing like Frank Sinatra.

I did it MYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY WAAAYYYYYYY

Annnnddddddddd nowwwwww that Poch has goneeeeeeee

 

[dude573]

I thought the Carragher/Neville debate was actually quite refreshing. It was actually the best piece of UK televised Spurs coverage I've seen in a while.

I think this is a debate that Spurs fans have all been having for a few years now. It is the idealistic side that Carragher was taking, focusing on how we need to spend big and capitalise on having the best ever Spurs team/manager in the last 30 years vs the more pragmatic thoughts of Neville who realistically says we can only do what we can because of the stadium and our lack of resources compared to the other top six clubs.

We get it heavy from all angles because we never win trophies, but a lot of the time this can be unfair, as the looking at our finances, wages, PL history we have no right to be where we are. I may be biased here, but in a time of billions being spent by 2/3 club a lone, I feel we are a credit to football in trying to do something different, but it may be time to accept that this is an impossible task and unless we change, all we ever will be doing is trying.

 

[freeeki]

Are they? You have no evidence to back this up you are basing this on here say to fit an agenda

Where's Dele's new contract?
Where's Eriksen's new contract?
Where's the squad investment to allow us to push on and win things which Poch and others will have been assured of when they signed their contracts?

If you think all is well in the camp, you're deluding yourself.

 

[freeeki]

Just seen Kane’s first half miss. That was as bad as lamela’s for me.

I didn’t think his first touch was bad to get the ball out of his feet, the problem was that his acceleration has completely gone. In all of the last three seasons he gets a shot off there.

I just don’t know how he gets that umpf back.

In fairness, Mo Salah has suffered a similar dip in form this season after a blistering 2017-18.

The difference is, Salah has Mane and Firmino to bang them in in his absence, and full backs who don't tend to fall asleep on duty.