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Sweetsman

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Based on your logic, there’s no point turning up. Just give it to the team that’s won it the most.
And of course if the best team in the country is knocked out you have a better chance to win it. Hells bells
Would you rather have played city or Utd today. Or saints for that matter, let either Chelsea or Utd get knocked out and just have to play one of them not both.
Don't even bring up logic, because it's just a meaningless word based on what you've been writing.
 

SugarRay

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You mean the Chiellini of Juventus, who couldn't hold their shit together when they were on the cusp of besting Real?

Yeah, who said it doesn’t really matter, but he probably has more honours to his name than we have as a club for 40 years.

My point is, these proper big successful clubs must look at us as the easy fixture in these knockout competitions. History suggests we are the easy touch and today sort of proved it again.
 

Sweetsman

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Based on your logic, there’s no point turning up. Just give it to the team that’s won it the most.
And of course if the best team in the country is knocked out you have a better chance to win it. Hells bells
Would you rather have played city or Utd today. Or saints for that matter, let either Chelsea or Utd get knocked out and just have to play one of them not both.
Have you read the Smith article yet?
 
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Yeah, who said it doesn’t really matter, but he probably has more honours to his name than we have as a club for 40 years.

My point is, these proper big successful clubs must look at us as the easy fixture in these knockout competitions. History suggests we are the easy touch and today sort of proved it again.
Yes we have been competing at the top level for so many years I can't for the life of me get my head around why we haven't won more ...
 

Sweetsman

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Yeah, who said it doesn’t really matter, but he probably has more honours to his name than we have as a club for 40 years.

My point is, these proper big successful clubs must look at us as the easy fixture in these knockout competitions. History suggests we are the easy touch and today sort of proved it again.
Well, he's won the World Cup and we haven't, so you're clearly onto a winner.
 

hutchiniho

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There'll be a day when you actually make sense in what you write, but based on the last sentence, it isn't going to be today. Were the mistakes made by Dembélé and the mis-control by Lukaku that led to their second due to a) tactics b) ability to perform c) who wanted it more d) some other bollocks?

A mistake made by Dembele is exactly ability to perform.

A error, between two equally matched opponents is just as likely to change the outcome of a game as a moment of brilliance.

Jose usually gets tactics spot on in the big games and his winning record can’t be questioned even if style of play can.

Not sure you were the best in class at comprehension we’re you?
 
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Since our last last trophy, Liverpool, Leicester, Wigan, Swansea and Birmingham have managed to do something we haven’t. Win a domestic honour
I'm chuffed for them, two of them are in the lower leagues and one of them is fighting relegation .... Yes, the glory.
 

Sweetsman

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A mistake made by Dembele is exactly ability to perform.

A error, between two equally matched opponents is just as likely to change the outcome of a game as a moment of brilliance.

Jose usually gets tactics spot on in the big games and his winning record can’t be questioned even if style of play can.

Not sure you were the best in class at comprehension we’re you?
Well, I did learn how to use commas better than you, but that's not the point. You see, comprehending your tumbleweed logic is a bit hard. I mean, Dembélé makes a mistake and that illustrates inability to perform, according to you.
 

Sweetsman

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A mistake made by Dembele is exactly ability to perform.

A error, between two equally matched opponents is just as likely to change the outcome of a game as a moment of brilliance.

Jose usually gets tactics spot on in the big games and his winning record can’t be questioned even if style of play can.

Not sure you were the best in class at comprehension we’re you?
Have you read Rory Smith's article yet?
 

hutchiniho

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Did you read the article?

“We are close, we are close, we are close,” Pochettino said. “Nearly close enough to touch.” Every time, though, his team has fallen short. And now, he said, he knows that painstaking, hard-won progress in the league, and improving performances in the Champions League, are no longer “enough.” “The only way to reach this last level, not just to compete, but to win” is to break that seal, to pick up that first trophy, he said.

Exactly what I have been saying!!!!!!

Just like Jan and just like Harry

It time to win something
 

Sweetsman

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Since our last last trophy, Liverpool, Leicester, Wigan, Swansea and Birmingham have managed to do something we haven’t. Win a domestic honour
Since our last trophy, we have managed to do what we almost never did: become top four contenders and progress in the Champions League.
 

Sweetsman

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Did you read the article?

“We are close, we are close, we are close,” Pochettino said. “Nearly close enough to touch.” Every time, though, his team has fallen short. And now, he said, he knows that painstaking, hard-won progress in the league, and improving performances in the Champions League, are no longer “enough.” “The only way to reach this last level, not just to compete, but to win” is to break that seal, to pick up that first trophy, he said.

Exactly what I have been saying!!!!!!

Just like Jan and just like Harry

It time to win something
You have to read the whole article.
 

the lad

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Time for us to drop To Dare Is To Do, we cant live up to it on or off the field, well apart from Levy’s own wages that is.
 

truebluespur

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Very very disappointing... What a waste and another great opportunity missed again... Hopefully this pattern does not continue.

So many things could be said, but the biggest of all in my opinion is simply in regards to Son and Lamela.

Son is fantastic, but he's at his best when he's direct and running at defenders. Man Utd sorted this out in the first 20 minutes of the game, space was taken away from him and his danger gets limited. Pochettino did nothing.

Lamela, on the other hand, is sort of opposite to Son in this respect. Lamela is fantastic in tight spaces, constantly on the move and moving between the lines. Once Son became more and more ineffective, Lamela would've been a good alternative. Pochenttino, however, brings on Moura, who hasn't been playing much or that well, left Son on, and decided it was best to only give Lamela 5 minutes. That is horrible decision making.
 

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Such a disappointing result.

What's worse is that it appears completely mental. For long periods of games like this, Spurs dominate and play the other team off the park but don't score enough, and then when they inevitably come back the team just melts. Key players don't step up and collectively the side falls for every trick in the book, and when you've got a ref also falling for it - the time wasting (one sub took 3 minutes alone, they did this three times), the dives, the fake injuries (Sanchez claiming he'd been elbowed), not giving the deserved second yellows (Valencia), or even first yellows (Herrera!) - the team loses focus and concedes.

At 2-1, I didn't feel we'd get back into it. The players demeanour changed when Herrera scored; it's if they knew. We were kept at arms length by United, and this was the same pattern as against Chelsea in last season's semi. It may appear close but those two teams were soaking up 'pressure', or rather possession, and getting ready to hit on the break.

Kane shouldn't be playing. He's not fit! It's clear as day. He should be resting up for the World Cup, not rushed back to take a spot up front. The style of play while he was out was faster, involved more players and they scored enough goals to compensate. Give him the time off he needs to get 100% again.

Also, Dembele was sloppy in possession and weak on the ball against Pogba in particular.

The Alderweireld situation is so frustrating; either he's fit to play and in the plans or he's not. Any chance of him staying is disappearing while he's not playing, and if they've given up on him then exclude him altogether. Being on the bench is just a waste.

Admirable that they stuck with Vorm for the cup, but you have to play your best team and that would typically include both Toby and Hugo. Although, I suppose while Lloris is struggling for form it doesn't make so much of a difference. Not sure Lloris would have saved either goal.

Poch saying that the FA Cup wouldn't change our lives was probably a mis-step. In the grand scheme, maybe, because the PL and CL are the ones to aim for, but the FA Cup was right there in front of us. It has to be pushed as a big deal otherwise what's the point in playing.

Four games to go. All of them are winnable, 3 at home too. The players have to show themselves again. Dele was right; "We can't keep doing this. We can't throw it away. We have got to improve."
 

glacierSpurs

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I don't have doubts on Kane physical conditions TBH. If he is driven mentally, he can perform. Hence last few games it seemed to me his mental level is not the highest we had seen from him in quite some time, causing that dipped in performance.

I just hope if he is not in the best level, he or Poch can have the stronger will to allow others playing more instead of keeping him in that game and contributing so little.
 
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