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Match Threads Spurs vs Manchester United - FA Cup Semi final Match Thread

scottlag10

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Since our last trophy, we have managed to do what we almost never did: become top four contenders and progress in the Champions League.
Since 1991 we have won 2 League Cups, 2 trophies in 27 years! Now I don't know why and when you became a Spurs supporter but you still would of been brought up on the history of our club, the glory that previous Spurs legends talk about of winning a trophy.
Now I'm of a generation that grew up playing football until it got dark and we got dragged home. When we played I was scoring the winning goal in a FA Cup final, I can't imagine running around celebrating the goal that secured a top 4 finish. Different times?!
In 1981 my wish as a supporter came true, we won the FA Cup. Tottenham high road was shut off, traffic was at a standstill as returning supporters hit the streets and the local population came out to celebrate. Elderly ladies came to their front gates and we're kissing supporters in celebration. The glory of winning a trophy!
We all have something in common a love of Spurs. Since 2008 we have gone from strength to strength in the league and played some of the best football I've seen since the 80's, yet in those 10 years we have won fuck all, no glory!
If people are content with this because 'it's ok CL is all that matters' then the game I love has died a little bit more. Spurs have no devine right to win things, but the history in our DNA would point us to the glory of trophies!
 

archiewasking

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Kane looks to be trying to play through an injury that really could do with time off, an operation, or both. Looks like he's terrified of not winning the golden boot, missing the world cup, or both. And Pochettino is terrified of upsetting him. Great player, but so pivotal to our club's future that his desires are eclipsing what is best for the team?
 

archiewasking

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Still absolutely gutted today. Why didn't we even give it a real go? Losing 3 instead of 2-1, so what? Pile loads of bodies in the box, at bit of gung-ho, so we make it like the Alamo for United. The worst part for me is this time I hoped, yes, believed, we would get there. But we didn't dare. So we didn't do.
 

Sweetsman

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Since 1991 we have won 2 League Cups, 2 trophies in 27 years! Now I don't know why and when you became a Spurs supporter but you still would of been brought up on the history of our club, the glory that previous Spurs legends talk about of winning a trophy.
Now I'm of a generation that grew up playing football until it got dark and we got dragged home. When we played I was scoring the winning goal in a FA Cup final, I can't imagine running around celebrating the goal that secured a top 4 finish. Different times?!
In 1981 my wish as a supporter came true, we won the FA Cup. Tottenham high road was shut off, traffic was at a standstill as returning supporters hit the streets and the local population came out to celebrate. Elderly ladies came to their front gates and we're kissing supporters in celebration. The glory of winning a trophy!
We all have something in common a love of Spurs. Since 2008 we have gone from strength to strength in the league and played some of the best football I've seen since the 80's, yet in those 10 years we have won fuck all, no glory!
If people are content with this because 'it's ok CL is all that matters' then the game I love has died a little bit more. Spurs have no devine right to win things, but the history in our DNA would point us to the glory of trophies!
I know very much about winning cups and our history, but we just used to be known as a cup club and more disparagingly, the "Drury Lane fan dancers". I was drawn to Spurs because of the style of play. The trophies had a different value then to now. We now get to play the elite of Europe, and that means more money, important given that we almost went out of business. And, if we have no divine right to win trophies, why are you trying to give me a history lesson?
 
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Sweetsman

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I thought it was pretty obvious.

Winning trophies is the whole point of playing football.

Winning .

Money and facilities don’t go down in any record books. An FA cup win in 91 does.
8 semi defeats is an appalling record since.

For the fans and the players this season was about winning a trophy.
Pochettino has lost two semis and one final. He can't do anything about the other stuff.
 

Sweetsman

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Still absolutely gutted today. Why didn't we even give it a real go? Losing 3 instead of 2-1, so what? Pile loads of bodies in the box, at bit of gung-ho, so we make it like the Alamo for United. The worst part for me is this time I hoped, yes, believed, we would get there. But we didn't dare. So we didn't do.
We did give it a go. We couldn't go gung-ho, because it would have given them a goal.
 

archiewasking

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We did give it a go. We couldn't go gung-ho, because it would have given them a goal.

Like I said, though. It's a one off tie. Losing 3-1 or 2-1 still means you're out. And I can't agree we gave it a go. At what point in the second half did De Gea have much to do? At what point did our pressure and quick, incisive play have Utd rocking and hanging on for the win? Because I certainly didn't see any of that.
 

Locotoro

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Obviously we're all disappointed and frustrated but I feel it's important to make the point that these aren't "great opportunities" that we've missed. We worked hard to get there in the first place.
Yes we need to start winning trophies however every year We experience disappointment this team comes back stronger. We are becoming more and more consistent with each year and I hope this sticks in Pochs throat as much as the Newcastle defeat did a few seasons ago. I hope they are annoyed and angry because next season in our new stadium we will have no more excuses.

We will be regular a champions league with a big stadium (a season after playing at wembley) and our finances will be boosted considerably.
 

scottlag10

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I know very much about winning cups and our history, but we just used to be known as a cup club and more disparagingly, the "Drury Lane fan dancers". I was drawn to Spurs because of the style of play. The trophies had a different value then to now. We now get to play the elite of Europe, and that means more money, important given that we almost went out of business. And, if we have no divine right to win trophies, why are you trying to give me a history lesson?
You completely missed the point I was making because you seem determined to argue with everybody.
 

shelfboy68

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Very very disappointing... What a waste and another great opportunity missed again... Hopefully this pattern does not continue.

So many things could be said, but the biggest of all in my opinion is simply in regards to Son and Lamela.

Son is fantastic, but he's at his best when he's direct and running at defenders. Man Utd sorted this out in the first 20 minutes of the game, space was taken away from him and his danger gets limited. Pochettino did nothing.

Lamela, on the other hand, is sort of opposite to Son in this respect. Lamela is fantastic in tight spaces, constantly on the move and moving between the lines. Once Son became more and more ineffective, Lamela would've been a good alternative. Pochenttino, however, brings on Moura, who hasn't been playing much or that well, left Son on, and decided it was best to only give Lamela 5 minutes. That is horrible decision making.
Well the pattern has continued for the previous 7 semi-finals so nothing to suggest it is going to change in the future unless players actually have the self belief to make the difference.
The club has made great strides in recent years trying to mix it up against and to become one of the big boys with a certain degree of success, however we still continue to come up short in these big games when pressure is on we wilt.
Poch has been a revelation for us no question and should also continue his fine work but in his ten or more years of management he is still trophyless with no sign of the cycle breaking, in recent years we have created respect and reputation both in this country and globally but it would seem that anytime we reach semi-finals the old adage of "It's all right lads it's only Tottenham " still rings true for the opposition and that is something this club still cannot shake off and that is the reality.
 

fluffybunnyuk

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I went to sleep hoping things would be better in the morning.
When i woke up I hoped yesterday was a bad nightmare.
Came on here, and realised it wasn't. Oh well theres always the world cup...
 

TheChosenOne

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I went to sleep hoping things would be better in the morning.
When i woke up I hoped yesterday was a bad nightmare.
Came on here, and realised it wasn't. Oh well theres always the world cup...

I have hardly slept a wink..

Night terrors and reliving the game, if I had been asleep I would have hoped to wake up to a groundhog
day scenario but this time winning that damn game.

Valencia should have been off, Lukaku's mishit ball and Dier's deflected shot hitting the post are on a continuous mental image loop rattling around in my brain.
 

Sweetsman

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You completely missed the point I was making because you seem determined to argue with everybody.
I haven't missed any point and I've only been arguing with people who can't seem to get a grip. You seemed to have missed that with your sepia-tinter specs.
 

Sweetsman

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I have hardly slept a wink..

Night terrors and reliving the game, if I had been asleep I would have hoped to wake up to a groundhog
day scenario but this time winning that damn game.

Valencia should have been off, Lukaku's mishit ball and Dier's deflected shot hitting the post are on a continuous mental image loop rattling around in my brain.
Did you check your blood glucose?
 

Vincent30

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I think i have to agree with the comments on FBs, yes Davies has been a solid performer and Tripps puts in a top performance once in a while, i just feel without any attacking threat, pace, penetration from these areas it's starting to be detrimental to the way we play. Definitely an area that will need be considered in the transfer window.

Also, very frustrated with Kane starting the last few games. Everyone can see he is not close to being fit. Would have much prefered the Son up top and free flowing attacking players behind him. We need Lamela and Eriksen starting together. With pace from Lucas and Son.
 

Sweetsman

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Time for us to drop To Dare Is To Do, we cant live up to it on or off the field, well apart from Levy’s own wages that is.
Not as bad an idea as it might seem, because it has meant that we have had teams that have played in stylish fits and starts. This has been taken to mean glory.
 
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