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worcestersauce

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Yes your right. I guess Chelski’s max point finish is 75 points! So we need 4 more points so a win and a draw will do it.
I really don’t think we will get anything at West Bromwich ( not the form they are in lately and the way we have been playing lately) so we would need a win and a draw at home not two wins sorry.
Of course if Liverpool were to win or draw on Saturday that changes again.
So yes we are definitely in the driving seat. But Not so long ago we were 10 points clear and everyone said it was all over. Now that’s only 2 points, so it’s not over until the fat lady sings - or Liverpool beat Chelski and we win more game?
We will beat West Brom no problem and the points thing is misleading, we had a ten point lead going into a game against City, we lost and it went down to the more realistic seven points we then drew with Brighton so it was five points, the two points only came about because they played before us at the weekend, in reality it never was two points it was five points as it is now, so from the realistic seven point lead it has dropped to five, the idea that we lost eight points of a ten point lead just isn't valid.
 

The Doc

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Yes the same West Bromwich that in there last 3 games beat Man Utd and Newcastle away from home a got a draw with Liverpool. That kind of form is what we are up against. And to make it worse this is probably there last home game in the premier league. Not easy win your suggesting really is it?

Well, yeah, it pretty much is an easy win. It's a team with 71 points from 35 games against one with 28 points, who have also been bottom of the table forever. How much easier would it need to be? Or are we able to arrange fixtures against Championship teams now? Ps. This is not arrogant or dismissive of wba. Just a reflection of where we both are.
 

The Doc

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Darren Moore is doing a great job undoing all of pardews' bad work... That game is no forgone conclusion.

He certainly is. Kudos to him and I hope they stick with him next season. This game though. Really is the old cliché of matching them for effort and our quality will take care of the rest. Newcastle and the 5:1 notwithstanding (and I was there. Lethargic as we were, still would have gone on to draw, at least, if the ref hadn't given them the pen for the 3rd. Admittedly, was tools down big-time after that, but it wasn't the full on shitstorm everyone makes out) I think we have that mentality now.
 

WexfordTownSpur

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Well, yeah, it pretty much is an easy win. It's a team with 71 points from 35 games against one with 28 points, who have also been bottom of the table forever. How much easier would it need to be? Or are we able to arrange fixtures against Championship teams now? Ps. This is not arrogant or dismissive of wba. Just a reflection of where we both are.
Sorry but I think it is exactly that, arrogant and dismissive to a team that went to Man Utd and beat them with a stand in manager. Also went to Newcastle and did the same. So now they are at home and you expect a walkover, sorry but that is showing them no respect at all for what they have managed to achieve in the last few weeks. Yes because of a bad season they will probably be relegated but that does not negate their fantastic achievements. I for one can think of 5 or 6 teams I would rather be play away at the weekend!
 

The Doc

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Sorry but I think it is exactly that, arrogant and dismissive to a team that went to Man Utd and beat them with a stand in manager. Also went to Newcastle and did the same. So now they are at home and you expect a walkover, sorry but that is showing them no respect at all for what they have managed to achieve in the last few weeks. Yes because of a bad season they will probably be relegated but that does not negate their fantastic achievements. I for one can think of 5 or 6 teams I would rather be play away at the weekend!

Their "fantastic achievements" being what? Taking 8 points from 4 games at a point in the season when it's all but over for them? Did you see the games against Liverpool and Man U? If yes, do you think the results were a fair reflection of the games as a whole? Finally, and to reiterate, if we match their energy for the entire game, we will win comfortably. Imo.
 

Shadydan

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Sorry but I think it is exactly that, arrogant and dismissive to a team that went to Man Utd and beat them with a stand in manager. Also went to Newcastle and did the same. So now they are at home and you expect a walkover, sorry but that is showing them no respect at all for what they have managed to achieve in the last few weeks. Yes because of a bad season they will probably be relegated but that does not negate their fantastic achievements. I for one can think of 5 or 6 teams I would rather be play away at the weekend!

There's nothing arrogant in pointing out facts for God's sake.
 

WexfordTownSpur

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There's nothing arrogant in pointing out facts for God's sake.
How about ignoring facts. Like their form vs our form in last four games? And when I mean form I don’t just mean results. I mean when a team in bad form meets a team in good form. To totally ignore that form and say we will win easily is to be dismissive and ignorant of the current facts, in this case form. Football is not black and white, points on the board, the full years history, last seasons history. I think current form, temperament etc are much more important. So we are going to West Brom in their last home premier game before relegation, having beat Manchester United away, drawn with Liverpool and then went away to Newcastle and beat them alsoThat is current form, temperament and passion! That is not an easy, banking as a win game. And again I am sorry but it would be arrogant of me to say it was given that information.
 
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Yes your right. I guess Chelski’s max point finish is 75 points! So we need 4 more points so a win and a draw will do it.
I really don’t think we will get anything at West Bromwich ( not the form they are in lately and the way we have been playing lately) so we would need a win and a draw at home not two wins sorry.
Of course if Liverpool were to win or draw on Saturday that changes again.
So yes we are definitely in the driving seat. But Not so long ago we were 10 points clear and everyone said it was all over. Now that’s only 2 points, so it’s not over until the fat lady sings - or Liverpool beat Chelski and we win more game?

Fairly sure it’s 5 points. And a superior goal difference
 

UbeAstard

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Their "fantastic achievements" being what? Taking 8 points from 4 games at a point in the season when it's all but over for them? Did you see the games against Liverpool and Man U? If yes, do you think the results were a fair reflection of the games as a whole? Finally, and to reiterate, if we match their energy for the entire game, we will win comfortably. Imo.

Playing for their manager, they're a better side than Brighton.
Brighton 1 Spurs 1 -despite 'the reflection of who we both are'.
By some of the comments on this thread I expect there will be a melt down in the match thread then if we don't win 'easily'.
 
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Yid-ol

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Playing for their manager, they're a better side than Brighton.
Brighton 1 Spurs 1 -despite 'the reflection of who we both are'.
By some of the comments on this thread I expect there will be a melt down in the match thread then if we don't win 'easily'.

That happens 5 minutes into a game.
 

The Doc

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Playing for their manager, they're a better side than Brighton.
Brighton 1 Spurs 1 -despite 'the reflection of who we both are'.
By some of the comments on this thread I expect there will be a melt down in the match thread then if we don't win 'easily'.

There will be a meltdown in the match thread regardless. That’s its sole purpose, a platform for everyone to vent their anger and frustration with life in the thinly disguised form of commenting on a football match. That’s how it looks to me anyway.

For the 3rd time, I predict we will win "comfortably" so long as we match their effort. That’s what we have done all season (and last) isn't it? Why else do you think we generally only lose to other teams in the top 6 (Leicester aside this year)?
 

UbeAstard

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There will be a meltdown in the match thread regardless. That’s its sole purpose, a platform for everyone to vent their anger and frustration with life in the thinly disguised form of commenting on a football match. That’s how it looks to me anyway.

For the 3rd time, I predict we will win "comfortably" so long as we match their effort. That’s what we have done all season (and last) isn't it? Why else do you think we generally only lose to other teams in the top 6 (Leicester aside this year)?

'Generally' we have drawn with Burnley, Swansea, West Brom, Watford, West Ham, S'amptom and Brighton, all teams we should expect to beat 'if we match their effort' by your reasoning. Apart from Burnley, all the others have flirted (or are) with relegation.
I'm not saying we wont win comfortably, we do have the capability to do so. However drawing on even losing this game is historically possible. So I am tempering my expectation in line with WBA's recent form.
 

Yid-ol

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'Generally' we have drawn with Burnley, Swansea, West Brom, Watford, West Ham, S'amptom and Brighton, all teams we should expect to beat 'if we match their effort' by your reasoning. Apart from Burnley, all the others have flirted (or are) with relegation.
I'm not saying we wont win comfortably, we do have the capability to do so. However drawing on even losing this game is historically possible. So I am tempering my expectation in line with WBA's recent form.


We have won 8 of our last 10 league games. Only loss coming against man city.

West Brom have won 2 of their last 10. They have done well in the last few games, though performance wise I don't think they were great but got the results needed.

They need to win so will come at us and leave room open for alli, eriksen and son to do their stuff.... They all can't be as bad as last game.
 

The Doc

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'Generally' we have drawn with Burnley, Swansea, West Brom, Watford, West Ham, S'amptom and Brighton, all teams we should expect to beat 'if we match their effort' by your reasoning. Apart from Burnley, all the others have flirted (or are) with relegation.
I'm not saying we wont win comfortably, we do have the capability to do so. However drawing on even losing this game is historically possible. So I am tempering my expectation in line with WBA's recent form.

Should we be winning 32/38 min each season in order to meet your expectations then? You appear to have dismissed circa 30% of the league in preceding post. So far, we have drawn the same number we managed for the entirety of last season, so probably about right bearing in mind we are about the same level , or have possibly regressed a little from last year.
 

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