Match Threads Spurs vs Wolverhampton Wanderers - Match Thread

[faymantaray]

What the fuck

 

[ostrov]

Just seen Wolves 2nd and 3rd goals. Think Lloris should have got them both. Poor.

He didn't see the shot for the 2-d goal between Toby's legs if you watch from behind the goal. It wasn't easy to react, late. A different impression from the side angle.

 

[seppo]

Always tell myself to not let football affect my mood but it's hard when we're suddenly so shit. There's an acceptable way to drop points - having had some really bad luck in key decisions/situations that play out through a game, or if the opponents have a performance of a lifetime, but the way we tend to lose points is just plain unacceptable. If we're serious about going for a bloody title we can't possibly think it's OK to come out for a game, or a half, in second or third gear and basically handing the game to the opponent. This didn't have to happen in any way shape or form. Wolves were not particularly good today, it's just that we were complete shit, especially in that second half. Unacceptable. If/when Liverpool drop points this season I can assure you that it won't be in this manner, just folding over and basically thinking the game is won after 45 minutes.

 

[trevo]

They played as well in the second half as we did in the first. The difference is they scored. A team managed by the Holy Ghost is always going to be hard to beat!

 

[Supersi32]

I just don’t get how we look so much more tired then Liverpool do. I realise we had more players at the World Cup but Liverpool press twice as much as we do and they very rarely rotate. We on the other hand, ether through injury or Poch rotate a lot yet we looked exhausted. I understand someone like Kane being exhausted, but did Eriksen or Winks really play that much more then Firminho or Mane. Davies didn’t even go to the World Cup and he looks dead.

Liverpool have kind of moved away from the all out high intensity press this season...they seem to use a more calculated midfield press, of course that produces lots of sprints but the overall distance covered is less than us....strangely enough the last time I checked Arsenal topped the total distance covered stats with us in 2nd....

 

[jolsnogross]

Its uncanny how you can see we're going through the motions sometimes and inviting trouble. Passing sideways, safe option, not trying to get goalscoring positions. That 2nd half was mindless and lethargic and I thought Poch was arresting the inevitable goals against by subbing Alli out, but it should have been Moura and a rocket up everyone's arse that came on. So frustrating, just when you think the penny has dropped, they all stand around looking at it.

 

[TwanYid]

Previous two matches masked over a weak defence.

You know what- you are RIGHT. Holy shit I didn't even think about it but yeah- there were matches lately where I thought to myself "If (the other team) weren't so wasteful they'd have 4-5 goals by now."

It's true: those big wins masked a soft, shit defensive underbelly.

 

[@Bobby__Lucky]

You know what- you are RIGHT. Holy shit I didn't even think about it but yeah- there were matches lately where I thought to myself "If (the other team) weren't so wasteful they'd have 4-5 goals by now."

It's true: those big wins masked a soft, shit defensive underbelly.

The soft underbelly is because Dier is missing and we have no suitable deputy or competition. Same with City and fernandinho. Dier plays today we don't lose. I say this now having watched the goals again. First goal was awful defending. Seemed some hybrid of zonal and trackers. Sanchez didn't pick up boly run and Sissoko zonally didn't pick up the danger. Second goal however winks loses the midfield runner like gomez did for our goal at Everton last week. Dier is more natural at this and would of sniffed that out. Unfortunately winks again who had slotted in at cb when Toby ranged forward got caught ball watching and allowed the runner to sneak behind and then infront of him for the third. Again dier being adept at slotting in probably deals much better. Not winksies fault he's not a dm really...but showed a weakness in having winks as a dm. Not blaming winks at all, he's been admirably playing many minutes, but we need strength and nous in that role. We missed dier today...alongside winks.

 

[SpursDave88]

Its uncanny how you can see we're going through the motions sometimes and inviting trouble. Passing sideways, safe option, not trying to get goalscoring positions. That 2nd half was mindless and lethargic and I thought Poch was arresting the inevitable goals against by subbing Alli out, but it should have been Moura and a rocket up everyone's arse that came on. So frustrating, just when you think the penny has dropped, they all stand around looking at it.

I would agree.. but we couldn't actually keep the ball second half and kept giving it away.

It was clear early run the second half that we would not win the game playing as we were.

 

[truebluespur]

Always tell myself to not let football affect my mood but it's hard when we're suddenly so shit. There's an acceptable way to drop points - having had some really bad luck in key decisions/situations that play out through a game, or if the opponents have a performance of a lifetime, but the way we tend to lose points is just plain unacceptable. If we're serious about going for a bloody title we can't possibly think it's OK to come out for a game, or a half, in second or third gear and basically handing the game to the opponent. This didn't have to happen in any way shape or form. Wolves were not particularly good today, it's just that we were complete shit, especially in that second half. Unacceptable. If/when Liverpool drop points this season I can assure you that it won't be in this manner, just folding over and basically thinking the game is won after 45 minutes.

You could just feel it was going to happen. I thought it was going to happen against Burnley, then Everton, then Bournemouth... As soon as I started feeling a bit comfy, seeing that first half Kane goal, I thought yes here we go again, but nah, here we go again exactly what I was fearing. They slowed the game down, decreased the intensity, they thought they had it won. Very sad and in many ways pathetic to be on the cusp, then just piss it away...

 

[SugarRay]

The midfield was non-existent second half, Winks in particular was as bad as I’ve ever seen him. He reminded me of the days where I’ve seen Mark Noble have a shocker!

I think the performance in the second 45 minutes can be summed up in a sequence of play when somebody won the ball back from Wolves ( or they simply misplaced a pass ) and they passed it towards a group of maybe 2/3 of our players who all simply left it to each other and allowed Wolves to regain possession, all about 35 yards from our own goal.

 

[shelfboy68]

I just don’t get how we look so much more tired then Liverpool do. I realise we had more players at the World Cup but Liverpool press twice as much as we do and they very rarely rotate. We on the other hand, ether through injury or Poch rotate a lot yet we looked exhausted. I understand someone like Kane being exhausted, but did Eriksen or Winks really play that much more then Firminho or Mane. Davies didn’t even go to the World Cup and he looks dead.

Tiredness starts with the mind usually once that fatigues physically it then kicks in.

 

[dbspurs]

I put it mainly down to too many games in a short space of time.

It is amazing how the Premier League dicked us with the festive fixtures. Liverpool have another 2 days extra rest coming up having already had 2 days on us between Friday and Boxing Day.

Poch has to share some blame though. There were 7 players in the starting line up yesterday who have been run into the ground since the Arsenal cup game. Second half we were running on fumes and misplacing passes.

They should have all been benched yesterday and brought back for Cardiff followed by another rest at Tranmere. This would have kept them fresh for Chelsea.

 

[Thewobbler]

I put it mainly down to too many games in a short space of time.

It is amazing how the Premier League dicked us with the festive fixtures. Liverpool have another 2 days extra rest coming up having already had 2 days on us between Friday and Boxing Day.

Poch has to share some blame though. There were 7 players in the starting line up yesterday who have been run into the ground since the Arsenal cup game. Second half we were running on fumes and misplacing passes.

They should have all been benched yesterday and brought back for Cardiff followed by another rest at Tranmere. This would have kept them fresh for Chelsea.

TBF to poch he probably looked at the cardiff game as the weakest of all the opposition and was probably going to rest players for that game. The issue is we still don't have a replacement for kane, llorente isnt up to standard.

 

[Yid121]

The soft underbelly is because Dier is missing and we have no suitable deputy or competition. Same with City and fernandinho. Dier plays today we don't lose. I say this now having watched the goals again. First goal was awful defending. Seemed some hybrid of zonal and trackers. Sanchez didn't pick up boly run and Sissoko zonally didn't pick up the danger. Second goal however winks loses the midfield runner like gomez did for our goal at Everton last week. Dier is more natural at this and would of sniffed that out. Unfortunately winks again who had slotted in at cb when Toby ranged forward got caught ball watching and allowed the runner to sneak behind and then infront of him for the third. Again dier being adept at slotting in probably deals much better. Not winksies fault he's not a dm really...but showed a weakness in having winks as a dm. Not blaming winks at all, he's been admirably playing many minutes, but we need strength and nous in that role. We missed dier today...alongside winks.

Poch should've bought on Skipp for him. Stupid as Winks was offering little in that 2nd half

 

[worcestersauce]

of all the players you mentioned lamela is the only one who can have any attacking impact from the bench, & we cant exactly rely on him to be fit for the rest of the season, son will be missing for a few games soon & llorente is awol, we have to pray we dont get any injuries in the attacking areas because moments like today where we aren't clinical like we have been, its the bench where you look to & hope for someone to help kill the game off

The point is that we wouldn't have needed to had those players not been injured we would have been able to have rotated more and we would have beaten wolves. I am fine with buying players to improve us but we didn't lose yesterday because we haven't got good enough players.

 

[G Ron]

Exactly. The crowd around me just didn't get involved enough .

Very difficult to do so when we were so poor and slow in the build up. If there is tempo to the game and the players show urgency and start putting themselves about then that gets the crowd going. Yesterday there was nothing to inspire the crowd.

I always support the team when I’m at the game but yesterday felt very half hearted - no atmosphere whatsoever.

Wembley doesn’t help at all. Soul-less bowl

 

[Thewobbler]

Unlike everton and bournemouth, wolves are pretty good in defence and disciplined, even after going a goal down. They gave us no space and kane didn't have one touch in their box. Them getting their goal meant we had to attack and they countered brilliantly.

 

[gerishep]

You should try and contradict yourself less, you come off as a proper plank sometimes!

Happy new year, sheep!

Perhaps you need to grow up, a lot of your posts just contradict the poster just for the sake of it, with added abuse. You have nothing to add in the slightest, almost 3000 imbecile posts.

 

[Deleted member 27995]

Perhaps you need to grow up, a lot of your posts just contradict the poster just for the sake of it, with added abuse. You have nothing to add in the slightest, almost 3000 imbecile posts.

Is that so? Thanks for the research, I never knew you cared so much.

Bit weird fella.

Have a good new year! I look forward to your scintillating commentary on Spurs continuing for a long time to come ....