Spurs Young Stars not given enough tme

[ackie]

I am getting concerned with the amount of our young players who's future is in doubt at Spurs and who are linked with other clubs!
I understand that players will be linked specially that the transfer markets open in a few months, but Lennon, Hudd, Daws even Kaboul are still young and we may be flushing our future stars just because of bad season or lack of consistency!
Kaboul is in his first season with us and has been put straight into the first team because of injuries and some criticize him.
I also find it funny and silly (childish - lack of vision and comprehension of football) that some fans get on the back of players that have been poor this season, but that was immense last season and proved their strength and talent.
Both Lennon and Daws fit the category i have mentioned above and i believe instead of offloading them, we should be patient and help them as much as we are doing with King.
Some players go through one or two bad season. A perfect example would be our own Robbie Keane. His form hit low while he was at Leeds Utd. Look at him today.
I fear that if rumours are true about Ramos wanting to sell them that they may come good star players that we'll feel we should have kept!
The training staff should be helping Lennon with crossing and regain confidence and Kaboul in defense. He can also learn from Woody.
Perhaps we should also experiment them in different position.
Kaboul as defensive or attacking midfielder and Lennon playing just behind the front two as Jol did.
I understand and agree with some of the players we should cash in on such as Robbo, Stalteri and ...
But the young players need to be given at least one more season.
Would Ramos just buy proven or will he groom young players?
What would happen if O'Hara hit low form. Will we just sell him?

 

[Damian99]

sell all of them by the looks of it

 

[mrbrightside73]

To be fair,i wouldnt be that arsed if we sold Daws or O' Hara.Dawson is a mongoloid,incapable of defending properly unless someone better is there to hold his hand,and O' Hara is a throw back to the kind of player Glenn Hoddle would have signed..he's ok,but i doubt he'll end up great.

Lennon and Hudd on the other hand have huge potential,and i hope they both stay put,and i think Kaboul deserves another season.

 

[Montasura]

I agree that they are being unfairly criticised. Certainly I would keep Hudd, Lennon, and Kaboul, but I would get rid of Dawson. I just dont think he is, or will be, good enough for the kind of Spurs team that we are all hoping for under Juande. O'Hara is playing great at the moment but again he isn't good enough for our (and hopefully the club's) aspirations.

Lennon is simply having a poorish season compared to last year but he is still young with massive potential and is already better than most of his counterparts out there.

As for the younger stars still playing in the reserves, I really think a few should be given a run out over the next 6 matches.......would love to see Taraabt get a few senior games as well as Boateng.

 

[knilly]

great teams need squad players.

if ohara can play in a few positions and score a few goals in a season he's got to be worth keeping.

Daws just seems to switch off, same could be said of Woody today, and no ones saying he should be sold.

Hudd is a talent that we have to nurture, he's only 21.

Lennon is frustrating, but same as Hudd. if he improves he end product he'll be a fantastic player.

 

[king26]

ramos got it wrong today should played 4 4 2 not 4 3 3 we were over run in midfield

 

[ackie]

Maybe, but he did give the youth player a chance!
Hudd, Lennon, Daws, O'Hara and Taarabt played... and... well we got thrashed!
(am i contradicting myself in this post????)

 

[ackie]

ramos got it wrong today should played 4 4 2 not 4 3 3 we were over run in midfield

Yes but most of us INCLUDING ME were asking that he gives the young players a chance - He did! Perhaps the wrong formation but he did give O'Hara, Daws, Lennon, Taarabt and Hudd a go!

 

[senseispab]

To be fair,i wouldnt be that arsed if we sold Daws or O' Hara.Dawson is a mongoloid,incapable of defending properly unless someone better is there to hold his hand,and O' Hara is a throw back to the kind of player Glenn Hoddle would have signed..he's ok,but i doubt he'll end up great.

Lennon and Hudd on the other hand have huge potential,and i hope they both stay put,and i think Kaboul deserves another season.

agreed

 

[fedupyid]

taarabt waste of time wrong attitude same old Commoli signing C***. The Hudd 50/50 he will have 1 good game in 5 still not good enough to be a starter in a prem midfield. While lennon is having a rubbish season in a rubbish midfield. Lennon also had an op before the start of the season so hasn't been in top shape this season.

 

[stickyfinger]

But the young players need to be given at least one more season.
Would Ramos just buy proven or will he groom young players?

All the talk last summer was about our buying policy - of getting in younger players, cherry picking those, and reaping the rewards. Everyone seemed to agree that this policy - that is, Levy's policy - was the smart one. Suggesting that Ramos will be doing the buying, seems not to reflect the reality of the way the club works. Not as far as we know, anyway.

There was a lot of talk about Jol's role, and Comolli's role, in buying the players. We can speculate about how it's broken down between those two, relative influence and all that, but it's Levy's club. Is his policy of buy young and develop now being abandoned? I don't see anyone seriously considering it. It's like summer never happened. Some folks argued for alterations - to get some experience in to complement the youth. And while that arguably didn't happen in key areas during last season, or last summer, it appeared to last Christmas.

However, since Levy's cold business heart seems to beat so hard, I'm sure we'll be sticking with what makes sound financial sense. The young players we paid for, who have shown signs of real quality, will be kept i expect. That means Hudd, Lennon, Kaboul, possibly Taarabt (since his qualities may be exceptional, although he can of course also be exceptionally irritating) too, will likely remain at the club. I expect some others will be turned over. For me, KPB showed us very little to keep us interested.

Of course, they may disagree over individual players. My point is, Levy's policy will be what it is. It's financial first and foremost, and will remain largely in tact. Flexibility around the edges, sure. Needs must. But the assets we have in young players will not be lightly disposed of, just because they have patchy form around the first team. For serious offers, I suppose, we would consider some moves. Wild numbers thrown around, something we all know we're going to see a lot of, like 5m for Kaboul.. well, that's just making shit up :shrug:

 

[nickspurs]

All the talk last summer was about our buying policy - of getting in younger players, cherry picking those, and reaping the rewards. Everyone seemed to agree that this policy - that is, Levy's policy - was the smart one. Suggesting that Ramos will be doing the buying, seems not to reflect the reality of the way the club works. Not as far as we know, anyway.

There was a lot of talk about Jol's role, and Comolli's role, in buying the players. We can speculate about how it's broken down between those two, relative influence and all that, but it's Levy's club. Is his policy of buy young and develop now being abandoned? I don't see anyone seriously considering it. It's like summer never happened. Some folks argued for alterations - to get some experience in to complement the youth. And while that arguably didn't happen in key areas during last season, or last summer, it appeared to last Christmas.

However, since Levy's cold business heart seems to beat so hard, I'm sure we'll be sticking with what makes sound financial sense. The young players we paid for, who have shown signs of real quality, will be kept i expect. That means Hudd, Lennon, Kaboul, possibly Taarabt (since his qualities may be exceptional, although he can of course also be exceptionally irritating) too, will likely remain at the club. I expect some others will be turned over. For me, KPB showed us very little to keep us interested.

Of course, they may disagree over individual players. My point is, Levy's policy will be what it is. It's financial first and foremost, and will remain largely in tact. Flexibility around the edges, sure. Needs must. But the assets we have in young players will not be lightly disposed of, just because they have patchy form around the first team. For serious offers, I suppose, we would consider some moves. Wild numbers thrown around, something we all know we're going to see a lot of, like 5m for Kaboul.. well, that's just making shit up :shrug:

My views and not necessarily disgareeing on many: Transfers are still run by a committee. I just think Ramos has more say than Jol did and if there was a disagreement I think DC would be more likely to defer to Ramos.

As to the youth policy, it's still prominent but the overall policy has evolved as we saw in the Jan window with some emphasis on experience. I think DC and DL recognised that you can't break the top 4 with an average aged team of 22 and through hoovering up young talent alone. I think Ramos had exactly the same view and was pushing for that too. I'm sure he'll be quite happy for the youth policy to continue but will put his foot down when he wants some experience in a particular position.

I think it's harsh to damn Levy by saying that his policy is financial first and foremost. Without doubt he runs a plc and has a resonsibility to deliver a stream of increasing profits to shareholders - no argument here whatsoever. However what most people seem to forget is that the with the game today, 'his' goal and 'our' goals (winning stuff with joyous football) are closer than ever. He can't properly deliver his goals without ours. Delivering CL football and cups is good news for us all. If he did it with a squad of 12 year olds I'm sure he'd be thrilled with the bottom line implications. Fact is that he can't and it's going to be a mix of experience. Every gem the management uncovers for a bargain is good for us and good for him. His goal is to assemble a squad that gets us to the CL. Selling Carrick made a profit which was nice but they genuinely (and mistakenly) thought they could improve the squad with the proceeds. It wasn't a choice of 'quick buck' vs. build a winning squad.