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rez9000

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Great article below which sums up my frustration with following football in this day and age. I’m sure there’s plenty here who share that frustration and probably even more who cause it. Have a read, work out which one is you. If you are a nob then this could be the first day of the rest of your life to turn things around.

https://www.football365.com/news/the-2018-19-premier-league-title-race-expose-the-fraud
I saw that article. It has a lot of good points.
 

Gb160

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Someone posted this in another thread yesterday and it just basically sums up a lot of the match thread ragers in this place.
Its a great read.
 

Everlasting Seconds

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Iiii don't know. It isn't really that extremely well written. Supporters moan, supporters complain, supporters have opinions, Tottenham, City and Liverpool supporters should feel lucky. Shit happens in football.

We get it.

The writer is just like the rest of us, utilising internet to get across poorly executed strain of thoughts. Nothing more, nothing less. And not smart enough to come across with a lesson.
 

Dougal

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Iiii don't know. It isn't really that extremely well written. Supporters moan, supporters complain, supporters have opinions, Tottenham, City and Liverpool supporters should feel lucky. Shit happens in football.

We get it.

The writer is just like the rest of us, utilising internet to get across poorly executed strain of thoughts. Nothing more, nothing less. And not smart enough to come across with a lesson.
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Everlasting Seconds

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A sarcastic meme doesn't act like a judge between correct and incorrect opinions. I know internet users believe that they are in effect the way to referee opinions, but their nob factor is quite up there.

I remember being a kid and racing to the mail box once a week to receive the official supporters publication once a week (?), on actual paper. That, and the Saturday football match, was the only impulse.

But times have changed. The sport have changed. And this writer misses one big angle. Summer transfer window? Didn't exist. Summers were spent being outside and peeking at babes in bikinis. As it should be.

The sport is what it is today, good, bad or otherwise, partially because it is so simple and so easy to engage (with) fans and whip up a frenzy every day. Or every hour. This very site exists because of opinions and the ease of which they can be relayed.

You may not enjoy it. Most opinions are crap anyway. They always have been and always will. Put they are part of todays sports, and you can't escape it unless you turn off internet. And to a certain degree, it's made PL the monetary success story it is. No opinions, nothing to produce media wise, nothing to sell, no cash to get. It isn't pretty. But it isn't something to moralise over either.
 

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The psychology of being a football supporter is extremely interesting it is a deeply tribal and almost animalistic fervour, the insults, the banter, the 2 World Wars and one World Cup, the racism, anti-semitism all from pretty normal people who probably in a normal walk of life wouldn't dream of spouting such vitriol.

The clubs in part are to blame, they tell you that this is your club, your team and that is then reinforced by family, friends, media, the players saying the fans made the difference (and sometimes you can see that's true) and of course ourselves. We allow the team/club to become part of us, we cry, we cheer, we shout at tv & computer screens hundreds if not thousands of miles away from the team and the ref who will never hear us.

Social media and talk radio try and stoke the ire of the fans too, deliberately being knee jerk or controversial to get those replies, retweets, views and callers.

This very site has many a knee jerk thread after a big or unexpected loss there are literally dozens of them from Poch out, to legends, to being depressed. All I will say is that try (and I mean try, sometimes we all fail) to not take it personally.

The reality is that no matter how much we believe or wish for the right result, the desired result really has nothing to do with us as an individual. It is literally out of our control, the chairman and the manager have some control and so also the players but while they all have some control, the fans literally have almost none*.

So why bother, if it's all completely pointless and it's just a bunch of multi-millionaires kicking an inflated bit of plastic into imaginary point scoring system, who's rules change almost arbitrarily and sometimes are applied incorrectly. The answer should be that it's fun and we can dream.

We've all played football and some still do, we can imagine it's ourselves out there scoring the winning goal with thousands of fans cheering our name. We can take pride when our area beats another area and let's face it is better than the alternative in my area is better than your area...war.

Don't know where I'm going with this ramble to be honest, I'm probably thinking far too much about tribalism and how it relates. All I will say to finish is that lose or win don't take it personally. Don't knee jerk, try not to use hyperbole, in short tldr stop being a nob.

*unless you are that lucky fan who inspires a player to do a certain thing at a certain time, or even one of the crowd
 

Dougal

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A sarcastic meme doesn't act like a judge between correct and incorrect opinions. I know internet users believe that they are in effect the way to referee opinions, but their nob factor is quite up there.

I remember being a kid and racing to the mail box once a week to receive the official supporters publication once a week (?), on actual paper. That, and the Saturday football match, was the only impulse.

But times have changed. The sport have changed. And this writer misses one big angle. Summer transfer window? Didn't exist. Summers were spent being outside and peeking at babes in bikinis. As it should be.

The sport is what it is today, good, bad or otherwise, partially because it is so simple and so easy to engage (with) fans and whip up a frenzy every day. Or every hour. This very site exists because of opinions and the ease of which they can be relayed.

You may not enjoy it. Most opinions are crap anyway. They always have been and always will. Put they are part of todays sports, and you can't escape it unless you turn off internet. And to a certain degree, it's made PL the monetary success story it is. No opinions, nothing to produce media wise, nothing to sell, no cash to get. It isn't pretty. But it isn't something to moralise over either.
A great man once said ‘The writer is just like the rest of us, utilising internet to get across poorly executed strain of thoughts. Nothing more, nothing less. And not smart enough to come across with a lesson.’

Peaking at babes in bikinis? I’m really not following your train of thought here. I’m not even sure if I’m using the same mode of transport. The game has been twisted beyond belief by its current non-stop coverage and analysis and that could just be acceptable if it wasn’t being covered and analysed by such a bunch of deluded, self-centred, spoilt, impatient, agenda-driven collection of cretins that pass themselves off as football fans or even human beings. It’s not a welcome addition to football, it’s a sensationalist gossip columnesque bitchfest at best driven by a couple of generations of PlayStation know it alls.

And if I could have found a meme to say that I would have. Picture tells a thousand words and all that jazz.
 

rez9000

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The great gift of the Internet is also its greatest curse: it has increased the number of voices that can be heard.

So, while there may be more beautiful voices out there to listen to, which may never have been heard before, there are also many many more discordant ones alongside them.
 
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easley91

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A great man once said ‘The writer is just like the rest of us, utilising internet to get across poorly executed strain of thoughts. Nothing more, nothing less. And not smart enough to come across with a lesson.’

Peaking at babes in bikinis? I’m really not following your train of thought here. I’m not even sure if I’m using the same mode of transport. The game has been twisted beyond belief by its current non-stop coverage and analysis and that could just be acceptable if it wasn’t being covered and analysed by such a bunch of deluded, self-centred, spoilt, impatient, agenda-driven collection of cretins that pass themselves off as football fans or even human beings. It’s not a welcome addition to football, it’s a sensationalist gossip columnesque bitchfest at best driven by a couple of generations of PlayStation know it alls.

And if I could have found a meme to say that I would have. Picture tells a thousand words and all that jazz.
Everyone knows Football Manager is where it's at. ;)
 

stevenurse

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Thats the one that annoys me most. The idea that if you lose a game, you must have 'bottled it'. The self indulged arrogance to think that any game, especially against anyone below 6th is a foregone conclusion is ridiculous. Even then, a loss to a fellow top 6 side, or a European giant is met with the same claims by idiots.

Losing a game doesnt make a manager a fraud, or must mean a team has bottled it. But its the first thing thousands of mentally incapable people start shouting when it happens.

We can all overreact at times (Im especially fond of the faux-outrage, hoping for whatever the real world equivalent of reverse psychology is) and I've said some frustrated warblings, but never actually felt that way. Those that truly believe it are a danger to society.
 
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Have to pull you up there, Foxy - a knob is the handle on something, whereas a nob is a colloquialism for the male appendage.

Yes, a knob is a handle and what do we know about handles?

They're something that stick out.

They're something that require pulling.

They're something that allow you to effect entry.

And that's why we call the male appendage a knob.

And not a nob.

FFS.

Listen to the Fox. He knows of what he speaks.
 

rez9000

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Yes, a knob is a handle and what do we know about handles?

They're something that stick out.

They're something that require pulling.

They're something that allow you to effect entry.

And that's why we call the male appendage a knob.

And not a nob.

FFS.

Listen to the Fox. He knows of what he speaks.

I was only joshing. If being fully serious, it's actually both. (y)
 
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