Summer Transfer Wish List - 2017

[Trix]

But that still leaves the Lloris's, Vertonghen's, Eriksen's, Modric's, Berbatov's etc doesn't it. Surely the rule is, there is no rule? I'm not ruling Barkley out because he'd be one of the first English born, PL experienced players we'd signed for this team and I'm sure your not ruling out Fekir because he wouldn't?

Is it crucial that a 23yo adapts immediately?

The real question is why do we need to buy anyone when it seems we have multiples of each of those top players?

 

[am_yisrael_chai]

At the end of this article it mentions Chelsea are looking to sell Zouma. Assuming he is over his injury I'd take him in a heartbeat.

https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...nal-alexis-sanchez-no1-summer-transfer-target

 

[DanielJohnCosta]

The real question is why do we need to buy anyone when it seems we have multiples of each of those top players?

no, we need to buy

 

[THFCSPURS19]

At the end of this article it mentions Chelsea are looking to sell Zouma. Assuming he is over his injury I'd take him in a heartbeat.

https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...nal-alexis-sanchez-no1-summer-transfer-target

Chelsea wouldn't sell to us. I don't get why people suggest us signing their players.

 

[Trix]

no, we need to buy

Never mind

 

[Saoirse]

Good to see Poch being so proactive securing a high-profile signing this early on!

 

[Bus-Conductor]

Yet another arrogant reply from you BC.

The point is, you aren't contextualising the stats at all, especially when you try to claim that the French and Scottish leagues are of comparable quality to the English Premier League.

I didn't claim any such thing. I was using players as examples of how the quality of the league is largely immaterial, you judge the player not the league - the league being part of that judgement of course. Strong leagues can produce shit players (the PL for example in abundance) and tiny little piss ant leagues can produce great players (Holland up until recently, Belgium, Croatia etc etc). I didn't post the stat comparison between Fekir and Barkley FFS, Spurs9 did, but that's fine, because he rightly just assumed that anyone with half a brain reading it would contextualise for themselves - none of us said "oh look, these stats are irrefutable evidence that Fekir's form in France is guaranteed to transmute to the PL". We pretty much all understand this concept.

As it happens The French league continually churns out good quality footballers, technically and tactically - it exports more footballed than any other country - it just can't afford to purchase the finished article (aprt from PSG) - but that's a whole different debate.

I'm an advocate of the old axiom that there are lies, damned lies, and statistics.

And I'm of the old axiom that it's best to weigh up everything possible available to you before making up your mind, including facts/stats because they won't be as dishonest as your own bias - but just like everything else, including what you see, you need to evaluate it and put it in the correct context.

We should be signing players based on what values and skills they bring to OUR team and how they could potentially perform against the kind of opposition we face week in week out. A statistical comparison between two players in two different leagues just can't do that I'm afraid. It's like comparing chalk and cheese.

A statistical analysis won't tell you that but nothing will until it's tested, but the stats help form a vital part of the basis on which the decision to take that risk is made, and rightly so, because the people that are paid to analyse them and "contextualise" them for clubs understand that they are the one factor that isn't open to human bias. Everyone, including performance analysts being used by clubs (try the scout7 podcast if you want to listen to scouts and analysts talking about their profession) understand it's just one facet of recruitment that makes up a multi faceted process.

 

[nicdic]

The Sun claiming we're "front runners" to sign Dembele from Celtic in the summer.

They are also saying Dier is Jose's first target for £40m.

 

[spurs9]

My only issue with this is how he's competing in a very shallow pool, so the information presented is skewed. English players have for a long time not been known for their creativity. I'd assume if that table was all Premier League players each and every one of them would be buried further down.

It's kind of like looking for and rating someone for being the best Belgian wingback.

Most chances created in the Premier League this season:

C.Eriksen (80)
K. De Bruyne (76)
D. Payet (74)
R.Barkley (67)
A. Sánchez (65)


Most Key Passed:

C.Eriksen (69)
D. Payet (66)
K. De Bruyne (64)
A. Sánchez (56)
M. Ozil (55)
R.Barkley (54)

 

[McArchibald]

Assuming Lamela and Sissoko are off, we need two marauding wingers in the mould of Sane, Mane, Willian etc. On this large Wembley pitch we need speed in every department, and our current lack of it explains our struggles over there. That, and a backup striker who actually scores goals coming off the bench, should be the main focus of our summer recruitment drive.

 

[arunspurs]

Moussa Dembele :

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sp...man-united-to-land-celtic-ace-moussa-dembele/

 

[eppingyid]

this story keeps popping up but if he failed a medical and we wouldn't risk the reported 1.5m, why would the club risk it now at the crazy prices being quoted

 

[arunspurs]

this story keeps popping up but if he failed a medical and we wouldn't risk the reported 1.5m, why would the club risk it now at the crazy prices being quoted

We really don't know what medical conditions he failed. It could have been a temporary condition. If his condition improved & fit now, then why not ?

I would rather fork out 25m+ on Dembele than we did on a useless Sissoko.

 

[danielneeds]

Moussa Dembele :

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sp...man-united-to-land-celtic-ace-moussa-dembele/

Article seems to have been removed now, which is odd.

 

[eppingyid]

We really don't know what medical conditions he failed. It could have been a temporary condition. If his condition improved & fit now, then why not ?

I would rather fork out 25m+ on Dembele than we did on a useless Sissoko.

Very true that we don't know the exact reasons but the fee was extremely low that January because of his contract and the club still decided against completing the deal. I just cant see levy now going after the same player and paying anything from £25-40mil after one season in a terrible league

 

[Sandro30]

Would give anything to get Tielemans, slightly less for Dahoud but one or the other would be special.

 

[TEESSIDE1]

We really don't know what medical conditions he failed. It could have been a temporary condition. If his condition improved & fit now, then why not ?

I would rather fork out 25m+ on Dembele than we did on a useless Sissoko.

Could be up there with AC Milan pulling out of the Cissokho deal years ago because of a potential genetic problem found in a tooth sample lol. They seem to have been right though as he's crap.

 

[Spurrific]

Moussa Dembele (Celtic) is not worth anything over £15m imo. Being successful in the one good team in a shit league doesn't mean anything. He might have scored a fair few but he looks absolute tripe technically whenever I've watched him play.

 

[arunspurs]

Would give anything to get Tielemans, slightly less for Dahoud but one or the other would be special.

I have seen Dahoud in a live Bundesliga game. Did Nothing special - May be it was just one game. But personally, wouldn't go for him.

 

[nattydredd]

Article seems to have been removed now, which is odd.

DDoS'd by Levy..