Summer transfer wish list - 2018

[Shadydan]

With respect, Dan, I feel the "other clubs fuck up as well" argument is a pretty facile one. Isn't it important to analyse the reasons WHY we might have made a "dud signing"? And if it's because once again principal targets have been missed as we've left it late in the window in an attempt to drive down the price, and then we've had to scrap around for inferior alternatives, opportunistic or panic buys, then I think people have a right to criticise. Hopefully, addressing those flaws in our transfer policy might go some way to reducing the risk of signing "duds" in the future. Not always easy, I know, but surely the logic of this approach is something you can accept?

It's a perfectly legitimate argument seeing as our rival clubs are able to pay more money than us so they have less room for error than us when it comes to transfers so how come we should be put under a microscope for failed transfers which are in the minority anyway but teams who can spend x amount on fees and wages get excused? The reason why we leave deals late is because we can't compete with the bigger clubs who pay more and players will always favour clubs who will pay them the highest wage hence sometimes we need to leave it late to get deals over the line. Our principal targets aren't exclusive to us you know, agents will hawk good players around to good teams and those players normally go to teams who pay the most money in wages and agent fees. At the end of the day it's a competitive market and we need to box clever in the way we do things and sometimes you gotta wait it out to secure a target (i.e Davison Sanchez)

The frustrating thing is that our fans fail to analyse the situation properly and would rather throw their toys out the pram and rant against the club but we're financially hamstrung in comparison to our rivals.

 

[Disconosebleed]

I`d take Liverpools defense over Roma´s.

Fazio is part of that Roma defense.

Fair point, but what you have to remember is that the manager's coaching and instructions have a huge bearing on how defenders do - Fazio might have been shite for us, but in the right system he won't be. Lovren is now a laughing stock, but when he was at Southampton he was one of the highest rated defenders around. Van Dijk has done well so far, but he won't turn them into a league-winning side because their issue isn't really about personnel, but setup.

To an extent Liverpool's ropey defence isn't a case of incompetence - Klopp allows them to be exposed through a lack of cover, assuming (rightly, for the most part) that the additional players going forward (most notably Robertson) will score enough goals at the other end...but it is fair to say that any Klopp side can be got at. I can't claim to have seen a lot of Roma, but I've seen enough of Liverpool to know that assuming they're nailed on to win any game, letr alone a CL semi-final, is foolish.

 

[danielneeds]

I`d take Liverpools defense over Roma´s.

Fazio is part of that Roma defense.

Roma haven't conceded a single goal at home in the CL this season...

 

[Disconosebleed]

I for one am confident Liverpool won't win the CL, my only hope is that they get shit-housed out of it in a grossly unfair manner rather than beaten deservedly.

 

[Lord Commander]

Mate we beat Liverpool as well. I don't think you understand how football works.

With Matip and Lovren in defense.

Van Dijk is a fantastic defender and a brilliant acquisition. A signing that wins you trophies.

 

[Shadydan]

Ignore the troll and he'll eventually get bored.

 

[Disconosebleed]

No idea whether it would be possible given we are now rivals and Levy has put a stop to any deals going the other way, but I'd love us to sign Luke Shaw.

Pochettino has shown an almost unrivalled ability to massively improve full backs (it's almost difficult to remember now but Walker and Rose were verging on crap at times prior to Poch's arrival, and while we might be down on Trippier and Davies after Saturday, they have both been far better than anyone dared hope when they signed), and Luke Shaw is the definition of untapped potential. There is every reason to think Pochettino could turn him into a better player than either Davies or Rose, especially given he's already worked with him and had him playing very well while still a teenager.

 

[Lord Commander]

Ignore the troll and he'll eventually get bored.

You can`t believe that Liverpool will win the Champions League?

That Arsenal will win the Europa League?

You call that trolling?

Two teams that have reached the semi final of Europes top two competitions..

Makes no sense whatsoever.

 

[Disconosebleed]

With Matip and Lovren in defense.

Van Dijk is a fantastic defender and a brilliant acquisition. A signing that wins you trophies.

I disagree. Individual defenders don't win you trophies, defences as a whole win you trophies - and Klopp, as I mentioned earlier, does not prize defensive stability (or if he does, he's incapable of creating it).

As a case study, albeit an exaggerated one - back in the early 2000s, Real Madrid bought Walter Samuel, who at the time was one of the best defenders in Europe. It was seen as a massive signing that would take Madrid up a stage, and beyond the pejorative Galacticos label.

He ended up looking like an absolute clown, as Madrid routinely got murdered (I remember them getting beaten 5-1 at home in one game)...but it wasn't really his fault. He had Roberto Carlos off in the distance to his left, Salgado off in the distance to his right, Helguera looking lost alongside him and, with Makelele no longer in front of them making everything a little less ragged, he was horribly exposed.

Like I said, it's an exaggerated case because Madrid were a joke at that time, but the point is this: you can't just bring a top-class defender into a disorganised and unprotected defence, and expect him to solve all your problems. It doesn't work like that. Van Dijk is doing ok so far, and he improves them simply by not being as shit as Klavan or as error-prone as Lovren...but without proper organisation or protection, that defence will always, always be exposed. The only question is whether their insanely brilliant attack can make up for it.

 

[Deleted member 27995]

That doesn`t change the fact that Liverpool are strong favorites against Roma.

Which means they are more likely to be in the Champions League final.

And I see no reason why they would not be able to beat either Madrid or Bayern.

I mean, come on, we beat Madrid.

 

[Trix]

With Matip and Lovren in defense.

Van Dijk is a fantastic defender and a brilliant acquisition. A signing that wins you trophies.

Fuck a duck. You really don't get it do you.

One last try......

We beat Madrid.... Juventus beat us....Madrid beat Juventus.

Lightbulb come on yet?


Anyone else starting to think there should be a very basic intelligence test before new members are let loose in the forums?

 

[Spurrific]

Those laughing at the prospect of Liverpool winning the CL are delusional and burying their heads in the sand. I guarantee you, 100%, that you were certain Chelsea wouldn’t win it when they did too.

 

[Deleted member 27995]

Those laughing at the prospect of Liverpool winning the CL are delusional and burying their heads in the sand. I guarantee you, 100%, that you were certain Chelsea wouldn’t win it when they did too.

I find it hilarious that I can't laugh that it's 100% nailed on either ...

 

[Hengy1]

Fuck a duck. You really don't get it do you.

One last try......

We beat Madrid.... Juventus beat us....Madrid beat Juventus.

Lightbulb come on yet?


Anyone else starting to think there should be a very basic intelligence test before new members are let loose in the forums?

What you trying to say mate?

 

[Spurrific]

I find it hilarious that I can't laugh that it's 100% nailed on either ...

They have just as much chance as anybody still in it of winning it. City were apparently going to win it at a canter and Liverpool fucking humiliated them. It’s not nailed on, but it’s hardly a laughable prospect. There are only four teams left.

My hope is that Madrid’s recent experience in the competition sees them home.

 

[Deleted member 27995]

They have just as much chance as anybody still in it of winning it. City were apparently going to win it at a canter and Liverpool fucking humiliated them. It’s not nailed on, but it’s hardly a laughable prospect. There are only four teams left.

My hope is that Madrid’s recent experience in the competition sees them home.

It's all laughable.

Every game on it's merits.

 

[Colonel Dax]

Those laughing at the prospect of Liverpool winning the CL are delusional and burying their heads in the sand. I guarantee you, 100%, that you were certain Chelsea wouldn’t win it when they did too.

Spot on. For some reason people on here have been under-estimating Liverpool all season. It's one of the curiosities of Spurs Community. Perhaps it's wishful thinking, I dunno? I can't stand them and want them to fail at every opportunity but at the same I can't deny that they're a very good team and are capable of winning the CL. They're 2 games from the final. I still believe (and hope) Madrid or Bayern have the experience and pedigree to see them off in the final but in a one off game anything can happen.

 

[jonathanhotspur]

Ignore the troll and he'll eventually get bored.

Why are we so quick to brand people trolls when they don't follow the party line?

 

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It's a perfectly legitimate argument seeing as our rival clubs are able to pay more money than us so they have less room for error than us when it comes to transfers so how come we should be put under a microscope for failed transfers which are in the minority anyway but teams who can spend x amount on fees and wages get excused? The reason why we leave deals late is because we can't compete with the bigger clubs who pay more and players will always favour clubs who will pay them the highest wage hence sometimes we need to leave it late to get deals over the line. Our principal targets aren't exclusive to us you know, agents will hawk good players around to good teams and those players normally go to teams who pay the most money in wages and agent fees. At the end of the day it's a competitive market and we need to box clever in the way we do things and sometimes you gotta wait it out to secure a target (i.e Davison Sanchez)

The frustrating thing is that our fans fail to analyse the situation properly and would rather throw their toys out the pram and rant against the club but we're financially hamstrung in comparison to our rivals.

I'm certainly not "throwing my toys out the pram", and if as you suggest that "waiting it out until the end of the window" is an imperative rather than a choice, why is our manager demanding that exact same thing that us "toy-throwers" are advocating: that we look to conclude our business early? Ah clearly Poch isn't as enlightened as you mate! He's failed "to analyse the situation properly". We're not constantly competing with the financially doped clubs for the same targets, and we're certainly not as "financially hamstrung" as you're trying to suggest. To paraphrase Hercules, anyone suggesting that "we don't have the money (cos we've got a stadium to build)" is just talking shit.

 

[Deleted member 27995]

Why are we so quick to brand people trolls when they don't follow the party line?

Because according to the poster Liverpool are 100% going to win it.

24 posts from a complete random might have something to do with it aswell.