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Japhet

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It’s it’s a good question but I don’t think it’s final.

Big teams have competition look at man city - no one says “don’t sign Sané because sterling will be unhappy”. They say - “look what strength in depth they have”.

If sterling wants to play he will bust a gut in training and compete. Same with Sané who comes knowing there’s competition for places but that the seasons long. As poch says - footballers get paid to train not to play matches.

Ensuring players play to their limit is an important reason to bring in quality - particularly in the forward positions where consistency is less important (like the gk - cb pairing combo). This is amplified for young players who are rapidly improving and someone like Alli will benefit greatly from the competition.

I’d also add that playing Son up front as cover for Kane and shifting Llorente would be a welcome move.


A big part of the financially doped clubs success is because they pay players much more to sit on the bench than their competitors could afford to pay them to play. That compensation seems to keep quite a few of them sweet, but we couldn't (and shouldn't) do it.
 

Ethan Blakeman

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“Tottenham Hotspur are preparing a summer bid for 24-year-old Swansea City defender Alfie Mawson who is currently valued at £40M. [@TimesSport]” I hope we don’t as a Toby replacement it would be a huge downgrade hearing this unfortunately I guess something has happened with Jonathan Tah :(
 

tiger666

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“Tottenham Hotspur are preparing a summer bid for 24-year-old Swansea City defender Alfie Mawson who is currently valued at £40M. [@TimesSport]” I hope we don’t as a Toby replacement it would be a huge downgrade hearing this unfortunately I guess something has happened with Jonathan Tah :(

Or it's nonsense.
 

Blake Griffin

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i've not been particularly impessed by tah when i've seen him. very rash, dives into challenges that he has little chance of winning and generally just doesn't seem to be the most intelligent of defenders. foyth looks a better bet to me, especially once he's developed a bit more physically.
 

LeParisien

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A big part of the financially doped clubs success is because they pay players much more to sit on the bench than their competitors could afford to pay them to play. That compensation seems to keep quite a few of them sweet, but we couldn't (and shouldn't) do it.

Right - but that wouldn’t be true of Malcom.

And it’s not true of Sané. He came to play and he has. And so has sterling. Both to a very high level.

When you play in 4 competitions you need 2 players for every position.

I think we have room for one more AM if they have real quality.
 

Hercules

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We won’t pay 40m or near for Mawson! We refused in the summer, and took DS. The mindset at the time was, there were better deals outside England, and Germany, France, Spain, we have keen eyes.
 

EQP

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We won’t pay 40m or near for Mawson! We refused in the summer, and took DS. The mindset at the time was, there were better deals outside England, and Germany, France, Spain, we have keen eyes.

Sounds like we're actively searching for a Vert backup/ LCB.
 

St José Dominguez

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Malcom is a very big prospect but he is very raw, i wouldn't be starting him ahead of Lucas or Lamela, not for a while. I think a lot of fans would find him very frustrating as he has a tendency to overdo things if the game isn't going his way often resulting in running down blind alleys. He will be a quality player in time, but he would need help developing his talent and would/should not be expected to make an instant impact from the off. His stats for Bordeaux are very impressive but he is only 20 and fades in an out of games a lot, as is common for players of his age. All in all i would be very happy signing him, but he would be one for the future, not the now and i wold not be selling Lamela to get him.

Yeah was just an example lineup. Lamela or Lucas can be in there instead, was mainly to show by adding Malcom to squad there wouldn't be a requirement to offload Lamela as with that type of lineup being used often we'd need options and everyone would get game time.
 

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.@FCBayern manager Jupp Heynckes on @Girondins winger Malcom: "I have never seen him play. Therefore, I am not able give an opinion on him. But I don't think there is interest here." #THFC
 

Japhet

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“Tottenham Hotspur are preparing a summer bid for 24-year-old Swansea City defender Alfie Mawson who is currently valued at £40M. [@TimesSport]” I hope we don’t as a Toby replacement it would be a huge downgrade hearing this unfortunately I guess something has happened with Jonathan Tah :(


This smacks of the same kind of bullshit we get when the media say 'Man Utd prepare massive bid for Harry Kane' on the eve of a match v Utd.
 

Snuzzy

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When you play in 4 competitions you need 2 players for every position.

I think we have room for one more AM if they have real quality.

This is oft assumed but has never really been true. Man City have an 18-man outfield rotation this season. Chelsea - 17. Liverpool - 18. Man U - 19.
Ours is 18 and that's with significant regular injuries throughout the season.
 

LeParisien

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This is oft assumed but has never really been true. Man City have an 18-man outfield rotation this season. Chelsea - 17. Liverpool - 18. Man U - 19.
Ours is 18 and that's with significant regular injuries throughout the season.

18 compared to 20? Pretty close when you factor in centrebacks who are rotated minimally.

All these sides have two forwards/midfielders per position.
 

thefierycamel

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18 compared to 20? Pretty close when you factor in centrebacks who are rotated minimally.

All these sides have two forwards/midfielders per position.
City don't really. They play with an offensive 4-3-3 which means that 5 attacking players are on the pitch at the same time. Basically just B. Silva and Jesus don't start out of their senior options. They use guys like diaz and foden to back the rest up, especially in cups and stuff. We could do exactly the same really.

City:
---------------Fernandinho------------
----De bruyne------------D. Silva
Sterling--------Aguero----------Sane

Subs: B. Silva, Jesus

Spurs:
--------------Wanyama-------------
-----Eriksen-------------Alli---------
Lucas--------Kane-----------Son

Subs: Lamela......Llorente.

City don't have as many central midfielders as we do, but they have that extra top class forward that we don't have. Signing Malcom wouldn't make it harder to get minutes if we played like this. We also don't use our youth to cover injuries like city have started to do. Shashoua has made one matchday squad, edwards not one in the league, nor have any of the others like Bennetts, Sterling or Roles.
 

Bombsey18

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I personally think at the beginning of the season top 4 was a must to walk into a new stadium. Winning the FA cup would be nice but just look at Arsenal. It hasn't propelled them forwards. We do need to add quality as it keeps the great players on their toes. E.g Man U in the 90's. We have to stop thinking no player is better than what we got as to be a top team you need top players to start and come off the bench and change the game.

We are building a great team
 

Ossie85

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18 compared to 20? Pretty close when you factor in centrebacks who are rotated minimally.

All these sides have two forwards/midfielders per position.

Not true.
Chelsea have Hazard, Willian and Pedro as AM. So 3 for 2 positions. And sometimes Conte plays the 3 of them at the same time.
Man U have Mata, Martial, Sanchez, Lingaard and Rashford. 5 players for 3 positiones. Like us
 

LeParisien

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Not true.
Chelsea have Hazard, Willian and Pedro as AM. So 3 for 2 positions. And sometimes Conte plays the 3 of them at the same time.
Man U have Mata, Martial, Sanchez, Lingaard and Rashford. 5 players for 3 positiones. Like us
Players in these positions are very fluid. I think you should take midfield and attack as a whole. Do man utd have 12 players for these positions? Absolutely.

Do Chelsea have Barkley and Fabregas too? Not to mention 3 centre forwards for one position and a plethora of holding/combative midfielders? Absolutely.
 

The Swellhead Spur

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Wouldn't be surprised with us getting Mawson, we were looking at him last year if I remember? He is good on the ball and aggressive as hell
 
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