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cider spurs

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Well I'm in the...Sess for 50m...no thank you camp.

Suppose age on his side, and could develop into a monster, I'm just not so sure.

His number's are to be admired for one so young, but for me, there just seems something uninspiring about his game.

Certainly not writing him off, far too young to be that harsh, I just feel he could well end up one of those 'steady' type players in the Prem.

For suggested 50m, I would expect more. We'll see.
 

Haddock

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Very few who's praising Sessegnon have actually seen him play. He's a great talent of course but isn't worth anywhere near 50m in my opinion. Maybe it's all those countless hours on football manager that have created this deluded view that stats are the holy grail. Janssen had one of the best goal ratios in Europe when playing in the dutch league and we all know how that ended.
 

tiger666

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I'd rather have Sessegnon than Bale. People expecting him to have more to his game? He was taking his GCSE's last year. It's what Poch can do with him.
 

FreddieYid

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I’ll bet the fee is nowhere near £50m when he leaves Fulham.

It will be lumpy, but I just can’t see it being anywhere near that figure.

£27m MAX.
 

spursfan77

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We’ve been told over and over and over that we’re changing our wage structure this summer and that we’ll be strengthening the squad.

As ITK has alluded to this could be a busy summer. We’ve a fantastic 1st XI and some very strong squad players but we still lack quality in depth in a couple of key areas. Football is a squad game these days and given the gulf between 2-4 and Man City, the only way we’re going to close the gap and challenge them is if we strengthen the squad.

With regard to Toby we’ve also been told it’s not about the money, he wants trophies... despite that being feasible with us he’s coming across as wanting trophies guaranteed with little to no effort required (PSG, Bayern, Juventus, Barca, Man C etc).

Yes Bale’s on insane wages but we’re assuming he’ll want equally mad wages to return to the EPL. Look at Rooney at Everton, still on good money but not at the level he was receiving at Man U.

If Toby wants trophies he can go and win the French league in a one horse race. That should be really satisfying!
 

SpartanSpur

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Sessegnon is clearly a huge prospect that we need to be trying to sign, but I do see where @Hercules is coming from. His numbers are more impressive than his showreel, not that that's a bad thing.

My other concern is that he made a ton of sense when we used wing backs but now we've settled into a back four will he really get enough game time on the left with Son and Dele as competition?
 

cider spurs

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Does anyone not think that Sessegnon can improve the parts of his game that he is lacking in...I mean he is only 17?


Oh for sure there is every chance that he could, I just feel 50m for 17 year old unproven Prem player a huge gamble.

Maybe these are the risks we have to take to continue mixing it with the big hitters. It would sit more comfortably with me if he had a season or two of Prem football under his belt, but of course, if he excelled we'd probably not be an option, left instead in the wake of those who could offer extortionate package to secure.

Maddison looks a player, what's his latest supposed fee... £25m. Yes he's what, 4 years older and different player, but that said I don't see Sess as worth double or as influential in games. Maybe harsh comparison because of different roles but highlights difference in value.

People can maybe cite the fact that Sessegnon is only 17 so sell on fee has to be factored in, but let's not forget it's a two way thing, he's a prospect and is going to need alot of coaching.
 

Trix

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Serious personal question. No agenda, or hints. Please explain the hype to Ryan Sess...
I just don’t get it. I actually believe there is far better out there for less. I don’t mind 25m risk, and even that is expensive, but 50m. Nope all day from wheat I have seen this season.

You won't find any better at 17 yoa though.
 

Sweech

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I can't see how we can add another attacking AM style player without selling someone or seriously pissing off the other ones. Lamela and Lucas have barely played this season and will be looking for more playing time next year and then Alli, Eriksen, and Son are almost all staples at this point.

That's without even considering us going back to a back 3 which even further cuts out an option to play.
 

Sweech

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I’ll bet the fee is nowhere near £50m when he leaves Fulham.

It will be lumpy, but I just can’t see it being anywhere near that figure.

£27m MAX.
Have you not been paying attention to the amount players go for now?

The kid is 17 years old and is leading his playoff Championship level team in scoring and that's double the goals of the next best scorer. All the while doing it at a mix of LB and LW.

27 million is about the same price as the following players:
Zapacosta
Rudiger
Bakayoko
Danny fucking Drinkwater (who cost about 35 million FFS)
Nathan Ake
Serge Aurier
Danilo
Kelechi Iheanacho
Oxlade Chamberlain was 35 freaking million
Victor Lindelof
Michael Keane
Jordan Pickford
Davy Klaassen
Mamadou Sakho

And that's just in the Premier League

I'd say Sessegnon is a hands down better prospect than all of those except maybe Bakayoko at the time (and ironically he's looking like a bust) but you're out of your damned mind if you think he's going for less than 30 million in this market.

He's 17 for fucks sake. 17!
 

WiganSpur

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I’ll bet the fee is nowhere near £50m when he leaves Fulham.

It will be lumpy, but I just can’t see it being anywhere near that figure.

£27m MAX.
No way Fulham will sell him for £27m.

If there's going to be a compromise it should probably be a £20-25m base fee with add-ons such as appearances, goals, England caps, cups etc. taking the fee to something like £50m.

I can't see Fulham dealing for anything less than that.
 

Shadydan

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Oh for sure there is every chance that he could, I just feel 50m for 17 year old unproven Prem player a huge gamble.

Maybe these are the risks we have to take to continue mixing it with the big hitters. It would sit more comfortably with me if he had a season or two of Prem football under his belt, but of course, if he excelled we'd probably not be an option, left instead in the wake of those who could offer extortionate package to secure.

Maddison looks a player, what's his latest supposed fee... £25m. Yes he's what, 4 years older and different player, but that said I don't see Sess as worth double or as influential in games. Maybe harsh comparison because of different roles but highlights difference in value.

People can maybe cite the fact that Sessegnon is only 17 so sell on fee has to be factored in, but let's not forget it's a two way thing, he's a prospect and is going to need alot of coaching.

With Poch's track record I think it's a gamble that we should take personally. People say £50m is a lot of money but the final fee won't cost that much, that's just where Fulham want to start negotiating at but even if we spend around £40m on him it's not as if we need to spend the money elsewhere or in desperate need to upgrade other areas.
 

Trix

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No way Fulham will sell him for £27m.

If there's going to be a compromise it should probably be a £20-25m base fee with add-ons such as appearances, goals, England caps, cups etc. taking the fee to something like £50m.

I can't see Fulham dealing for anything less than that.
Why would Fulham compromise? If not us some one will pay 40mil+
 

Colonel Dax

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I can't see how we can add another attacking AM style player without selling someone or seriously pissing off the other ones.

Depends on what we do with Llorente. If we decide to dispense with the idea of a like-for-like 'backup' for Kane, we could theoretically replace Llorente with a Son/false 9 type player.
 

Ghost Hardware

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With his ability on the ball, I really don’t see Sess as a wing forward at all. His primary attribute is speed and does not have the technique of an attacker. Sure this could be trained to a certain degree, but he would not get any game time ahead of our other 5 attacking midfield players. As a wing back then I would take him but not at 50. The fact is, he looks an excellent talent because of his age but he also looks very raw and if he did come I reckon he would be training for at least half a year before we would see him as playing him would be a risk. Would he be happy with that? Doubt it.

If we are looking for a attacking player I would take Malcom over Sess any day, but really I wouldn’t choose ether. I reckon we are stacked for AM and unless we are going to bring in someone at the top of their game, an Isco, Bale, Fekier etc then I don’t see the point.
 

daryl hannah

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With Poch's track record I think it's a gamble that we should take personally. People say £50m is a lot of money but the final fee won't cost that much, that's just where Fulham want to start negotiating at but even if we spend around £40m on him it's not as if we need to spend the money elsewhere or in desperate need to upgrade other areas.
Looking at our attacking options I fail to see where he'd fit in. If we were buying him as a LWB, there are better and cheaper candidates out there who can contribute consistently throughout a 90 minute PL or CL game. from what I've seen of him I don't believe Sess will. His status seems to have been hyped, and that's what his value reflects - hype. The 14 goals are largely tap-ins from goal-hanging - that's not how Poch would play him, surely?

If LWB is a priority, let's go and get a specialist, and not spunk £40/50m on a prospect for the sake of doing so.
 
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