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SpartanSpur

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Looking at our attacking options I fail to see where he'd fit in. If we were buying him as a LWB, there are better and cheaper candidates out there who can contribute consistently throughout a 90 minute PL or CL game. from what I've seen of him I don't believe Sess will. His status seems to have been hyped, and that's what his value reflects - hype. The 14 goals are largely tap-ins from goal-hanging - that's not how Poch would play him, surely?

If LWB is a priority, let's go and get a specialist, and not spunk £40/50m on a prospect for the sake of doing so.

Tap ins get looked down upon but there is skill in scoring them constantly, and it's something that is hard to teach. Dele has it too.
 

cider spurs

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With Poch's track record I think it's a gamble that we should take personally. People say £50m is a lot of money but the final fee won't cost that much, that's just where Fulham want to start negotiating at but even if we spend around £40m on him it's not as if we need to spend the money elsewhere or in desperate need to upgrade other areas.


Get your point regarding Poch, he certainly has a habit of helping to improve player performance. Again, maybe I shouldn't be overly worried by the financials. If Poch wants him and we can afford him I'm not adverse to the idea, but still hold reservations.

It's weird. I mean what a talent for 17 years old, I just can't get excited by his potential signing, but nor can I put my finger on it as to why.
 

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Looking at our attacking options I fail to see where he'd fit in. If we were buying him as a LWB, there are better and cheaper candidates out there who can contribute consistently throughout a 90 minute PL or CL game. from what I've seen of him I don't believe Sess will. His status seems to have been hyped, and that's what his value reflects - hype. The 14 goals are largely tap-ins from goal-hanging - that's not how Poch would play him, surely?

If LWB if a priority, let's go and get a specialist, and not spunk £40/50m on a prospect for the sake of doing so.

I just think with this kid the skies the limit and I reckon he has all the tools as a footballer to be whoever he wants to be under the right coaching. I don't buy the fact that just because Fulham play him as a winger he is only going to be a winger in his career, he's 17, there's plenty of time to mould him into a player we want him to be. I personally think though his future lies at LB/LWB, I think he'd be pretty devastating in our team once he knuckles down on the defensive side of his game which can be taught by Poch.

In terms of our squad I personally think that Rose will leave or he will be pushed down the pecking order and Sess will become an understudy to Davies.
 

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But Dele also scores beauties, e.g goal against Palace was outstanding... and his runs are world class, just look at his first against chelsea on sunday :woot: i'm not english, but i really don't understand why anyone would not want him in the england squad...

Back to topic - Sess is a prospect, but if they demand 50m we should look elsewhere...Assuming we don't have money to spend for fun this summer, so we should spend it wisely and that would be a huge chunk of our budget on a position that is not priority... for 25-30m i would do the deal
 

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Such a basic way of looking at things. Loads of Dele's goals are tap-ins as well. It's called good positioning.
Tap ins get looked down upon but there is skill in scoring them constantly, and it's something that is hard to teach. Dele has it too.

And the rest of Sess's game???

Dele gets a large amount of criticism for not contributing to games effectively other than his moments of brilliance. Lot of falling over etc.

For me, just my onions, but Dele makes well-timed runs more than goal hangs. We had a poacher in Soldado, and another in Llorente - both massive flops. And they're strikers, not wingers/left backs. I just don't see Poch playing Sess in the 6-yard box.
 

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Get your point regarding Poch, he certainly has a habit of helping to improve player performance. Again, maybe I shouldn't be overly worried by the financials. If Poch wants him and we can afford him I'm not adverse to the idea, but still hold reservations.

It's weird. I mean what a talent for 17 years old, I just can't get excited by his potential signing, but nor can I put my finger on it as to why.

I reckon Riahhan el Sessegnon from the Brazilian league, throw in a couple of stepovers and body feints and trickery and you'll be all over this one ;)

I personally can't not get excited by a kid who is smashing up the Championship before he's turned 18 potentially working under Pochettino, that is literally a dream scenario and the type of signing that is made for us.
 

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Frankie De Jong and Malcolm. That will do. And a young CF instead of Llorente. No replacement for Toby. If Rose goes then a young LB
 

SpartanSpur

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And the rest of Sess's game???

Dele gets a large amount of criticism for not contributing to games effectively other than his moments of brilliance. Lot of falling over etc.

For me, just my onions, but Dele makes well-timed runs more than goal hangs. We had a poacher in Soldado, and another in Llorente - both massive flops. And they're strikers, not wingers/left backs. I just don't see Poch playing Sess in the 6-yard box.

I have reservations about Sess now we don't need a LWB so much, but this seems a bit harsh. Fulham must play a funny style for him to 'goal-hang' all game from LW. Assuming he doesn't then they are indeed also well timed runs like Dele.

Goalscoring is a very important knack that shouldn't be downplayed IMHO. Of course a player needs more to his game, but Sess has great pace, good movement and dribbling (albeit direct rather than skillful) and can score with both feet. Has decent strength too playing in the Championship at his age. Could he dislodge Son as a LW in the PL? Now that's a big ask and would require a lot of coaching. Could see why Poch would want him as a tactical tool though.

As for the price, if Poch is dead set and we are paying in installments, £40-50m is not too crazy, we could get 10+ years out of the player easily!
 

JonnySpurs

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That clip of Bale not celebrating is telling. There's no way he reacts like that if he's happy where he is and let's face it why would he be happy with his current situation. He scored twice at the weekend, first goal was classic Bale, very impressive.

I appreciate his wages are high but I do get the impression that we would potentially be able to make something work if we really wanted to bring him back.

Some have said that we don't NEED him but in all honesty, we don't NEED much overall. I'm personally very happy with our starting 11 and I can't think of many players I would want us to replace so for us it's always been about options and being able to seamlessly rotate players from game to game without having a massive impact on our play. Lucas was the first player we've brought in that will give us that option. We currently have Son, Lamela, Lucas, Eriksen and Dele as AM's and they are covering 3 positions. In my view we can add a player like Bale and still have 2 players for each position as Lamela could certainly cover Eriksen centrally. Bale could even play off of Kane as a support striker.

The point is, to suggest that we can't make them all fit is daft because we need more genuine quality in our squad depth if we are to seriously challenge for league titles and CL's. Bale would come in and expect to start but there are plenty of games to go around and injuries happen.
 

SpartanSpur

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That clip of Bale not celebrating is telling. There's no way he reacts like that if he's happy where he is and let's face it why would he be happy with his current situation. He scored twice at the weekend, first goal was classic Bale, very impressive.

I appreciate his wages are high but I do get the impression that we would potentially be able to make something work if we really wanted to bring him back.

Some have said that we don't NEED him but in all honesty, we don't NEED much overall. I'm personally very happy with our starting 11 and I can't think of many players I would want us to replace so for us it's always been about options and being able to seamlessly rotate players from game to game without having a massive impact on our play. Lucas was the first player we've brought in that will give us that option. We currently have Son, Lamela, Lucas, Eriksen and Dele as AM's and they are covering 3 positions. In my view we can add a player like Bale and still have 2 players for each position as Lamela could certainly cover Eriksen centrally. Bale could even play off of Kane as a support striker.

The point is, to suggest that we can't make them all fit is daft because we need more genuine quality in our squad depth if we are to seriously challenge for league titles and CL's. Bale would come in and expect to start but there are plenty of games to go around and injuries happen.

You can't ignore a player of Bale's standing (genuinely world class) if available and achievable, assuming Poch think's he can fit into our style and we can manage his fitness. Unfortunately I think Utd will keep throwing money at Bale until he agrees to go there, which sucks as it would be insane to open the new stadium with Kane and Bale together.

You can let Llorente go and Son and Bale (or even Dele) can be backup strikers.
 
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I would love for spurs to sign Sessegnon but if he proves too costly, i wouldn't mind spurs signing Ryan Bertrand.

Yes he is 28 and therefore wont have much re-sell value at the end of his contract. But it also means he is in the prime of his career and already established as one of the best left backs in the league so he wouldnt need any time to settle. And we will bringing him in to rotate with Davies.

If Southampton is relegated then we would probably get him at a cut price.
 

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I reckon Riahhan el Sessegnon from the Brazilian league, throw in a couple of stepovers and body feints and trickery and you'll be all over this one ;)

I personally can't not get excited by a kid who is smashing up the Championship before he's turned 18 potentially working under Pochettino, that is literally a dream scenario and the type of signing that is made for us.

I wondered when the old 'Carlos Kickaball' was going to be directed my way.:devil::woot:(y)

When and if, Sess makes it to the Prem I'm certainly going to be intrigued to see how he progresses.

If that's at Spurs I'll be more than pleased.

#Ryan Progressegnon
 

allatsea

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I rate Sessegon but he is not yet a 50 million pound player. Spurs would be taking on all the risk on him becoming a 50 million pound player and Fulham would not. At 17 there are too many things that could go wrong or not work out for us to be assuming all the risk. Perhaps 20/25 million now and the rest of appearances goals etc but I don’t think Fulham will agree to that. Plus spending around 50 million on Sess will mean it cannot be spent elsewhere.
 

WiganSpur

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Such a basic way of looking at things. Loads of Dele's goals are tap-ins as well. It's called good positioning.
Not only that. He is always so much more alive than everybody else is in those penalty box situations.

Case in point his second goal on Sunday.
 
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