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Dillspur

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May 18, 2004
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You'd think the FA would want to move on this, IF Vardy is some how involved and he and England have a blinder at the euros it's going to lead to more questions.

I wouldn't care if we won the league because of this, at the end of the day they would be in a false position because they cheated
 
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E.L.Strict

Cerebral Houdini
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Jun 27, 2004
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Has anyone watched the full English documentary? The way it is put together looks like the real "story" is actually about the Olympics in 2012, and the relationship of UCAD and WADA to the 2016 games. Premiership doping is really just a sub-story within this, and I wouldn't be surprised if nothing more comes of that angle. I definitely think we haven't heard the last of the overall story though.

In response to being questioned about the investigation, Brinded "denied ever having known Bonar." In the video released he can clearly be seen referencing Bonar, especially suspiciously as in the video he says "I don't do anything unethical, but Dr. Bonar handles the other things." Also within the video Brinded claims that he has referred a player from top Premiership team to Bonar this season for a testosterone treatment.

A German blog called 'FussballDoping' made a post about this story yesterday. The title is "Doping is coming home." :ROFLMAO: Bastards!

HERE is the link to the google translated version. As well as picking up on the testimonial by Eidur Gudjohnsen on Brinded's website, they also establish the link between him and Forssel and Huth, which we could only speculate about. They regularly contact each other on social media, including a picture of Brinded receiving some kind of IV treatment, which "pleased" Forssel (I think they mean he 'liked' it.) Brinded also tweets to Forssel directly, telling him to come and hang out at his pool.

Other highlights include this picture from Brinded's account tweeted to Bonar's clinic

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And this exchange with Huth

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:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
 

ClintEastwould

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Jul 3, 2012
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Huth exchanging tweets with a guy who dopes up athletes is surely interesting. How else would he know the damn guy if he didnt get treatment from him?
 

garyhopkins

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Jun 22, 2008
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Follow the FIFA, Lance Armstrong et al example; deny, deny, deny until it is impossible to refute. The last paragraph is the most interesting.....

The events described also throw a bad light on the doping control system. A few years ago we had criticized that a professional footballer on average only every three yearswould be checked - except international.

We are currently talking about the research center correctiv.org with many former and current footballers. You paint a different picture than the statements of some persons who assert repeatedly in public, doping in football does not exist.
 

Hazardousman

Audere est Facere
Jul 24, 2013
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Interesting comments from Raneri about the Leicester players, Vardy and Kante in particular.

http://www.skysports.com/football/n...-fantastic-horse-according-to-claudio-ranieri

This might come as "praise" from the manager but to me it highlights the problem, Kante being a prime example, these players are known for being slow as even Raneri highlights and also were known as having the second worst fitness in the league last year.

Now Raneri is saying Kante is training like he has a "battery pack" for example.

Just seems very odd to me, very odd, also the fact that they have had hardly any injuries and when they have the recovery time has been so fast.
 

soup

On the straightened arrow
May 26, 2004
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I wish they'd just let these athletes take all the drugs they want. Watching people run a marathon at 75mph would be a lot more exciting. Seeing Messi weaving up the pitch like Speedy Gonzalez would be brilliant. Shots at goal going at 200mph and goalies with cat like reflexes doing somersaults whilst parrying shots would make 0-0 draws also a lot less boring.

Yolo :sneaky:
 

widmerpool

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Jun 18, 2012
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I wish they'd just let these athletes take all the drugs they want. Watching people run a marathon at 75mph would be a lot more exciting. Seeing Messi weaving up the pitch like Speedy Gonzalez would be brilliant. Shots at goal going at 200mph and goalies with cat like reflexes doing somersaults whilst parrying shots would make 0-0 draws also a lot less boring.

Yolo :sneaky:

It would be a nightmare for referees unless they were stuffed to the gills with modafinil and ritalin and any other nootropics their quack happened upon.
 

aliyid

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Dec 28, 2004
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Sod the random testing EVERY PLAYER should be drug tested at regular points during the year to prove they're clean. Esp players in teams qualifying for European competitions

Happens in tennis so why not football
 

spursfan77

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Aug 13, 2005
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Sod the random testing EVERY PLAYER should be drug tested at regular points during the year to prove they're clean. Esp players in teams qualifying for European competitions

Happens in tennis so why not football

It's not like there's not enough money in the game to pay for it to happen either.
 

rossdapep

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Aug 25, 2011
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79,646
Has anyone watched the full English documentary? The way it is put together looks like the real "story" is actually about the Olympics in 2012, and the relationship of UCAD and WADA to the 2016 games. Premiership doping is really just a sub-story within this, and I wouldn't be surprised if nothing more comes of that angle. I definitely think we haven't heard the last of the overall story though.

In response to being questioned about the investigation, Brinded "denied ever having known Bonar." In the video released he can clearly be seen referencing Bonar, especially suspiciously as in the video he says "I don't do anything unethical, but Dr. Bonar handles the other things." Also within the video Brinded claims that he has referred a player from top Premiership team to Bonar this season for a testosterone treatment.

A German blog called 'FussballDoping' made a post about this story yesterday. The title is "Doping is coming home." :ROFLMAO: Bastards!

HERE is the link to the google translated version. As well as picking up on the testimonial by Eidur Gudjohnsen on Brinded's website, they also establish the link between him and Forssel and Huth, which we could only speculate about. They regularly contact each other on social media, including a picture of Brinded receiving some kind of IV treatment, which "pleased" Forssel (I think they mean he 'liked' it.) Brinded also tweets to Forssel directly, telling him to come and hang out at his pool.

Other highlights include this picture from Brinded's account tweeted to Bonar's clinic

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And this exchange with Huth

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:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
Only just seen this now, very interesting.
 

Strikeb4ck

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Aug 8, 2010
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I'm sorry but I watched Christian Fuchs do fuck all in the Bundesliga for years and now he is outspeeding Yedlin 10 times out of 10? Give me a break.
 

Syn_13

Fly On, Little Wing
Jul 17, 2008
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20,659
I hate how these drug cheats are going to win the league.

The problem is, it's just unsubstantiated. We can only speculate, but have no hard evidence. I'd rather not talk about them like that and say openly that they're drug cheats. Not out of respect, I really couldn't give a toss for them, but because if I say it out loud people are just going to laugh at me and call me jealous and bitter. I don't want to come across that way and give people the satisfaction.

We just have to accept that there could be something untowards going on, but it isn't ever going to matter unless it can be proven.
 

Syn_13

Fly On, Little Wing
Jul 17, 2008
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I'd be delighted. But pissed at the way it's been done.

It'd be a totally hollow victory. Now if they get points deducted minutes before kick off on the last game of the season I'd be fecking delighted.
 

Rocksuperstar

Isn't this fun? Isn't fun the best thing to have?
Jun 6, 2005
53,359
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I wish they'd just let these athletes take all the drugs they want. Watching people run a marathon at 75mph would be a lot more exciting. Seeing Messi weaving up the pitch like Speedy Gonzalez would be brilliant. Shots at goal going at 200mph and goalies with cat like reflexes doing somersaults whilst parrying shots would make 0-0 draws also a lot less boring.

Yolo :sneaky:

I expect we'll one day see the formation of some sort of underground olympics, where you have to be on drugs to compete. It'll be a competition where people will, literally, put their bodies on the line as they push the limits of how much chemical mischief they can cope with physically, then compete in athletics, weightlifting, etc.
 
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