Super sub Harry Kane reprimands Erik Lamela for card gesture

[mawspurs]

When the Argentine beckoned for referee Neil Swarbrick to brandish a card to Christian Benteke, Kane strode towards the scene and hauled Mr Rabona away.

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[Geyzer Soze]

Lad. this guy 'gets it'

 

[chinaman]

Mountains out of shithills.

 

[michaelden]

I disagree with this. Kane has stopped a team mate applying pressure on the ref. All the top teams do it, and if we want to be competitive we need to be applying pressure on the refs too.

Screw the view, "Its just not cricket, trying to get a fellow professional sent off." So explain why so many players dive, make the acceptable "cynical" foul, run up to the ref screaming, make blatantly illegal 2 footed challenges etc... none of that shit is "in the game". If the challenge warranted a yellow then everyone should be letting the ref know about it. Especially away from home where the crowd can sway the ref.

 

[mil1lion]

I disagree with this. Kane has stopped a team mate applying pressure on the ref. All the top teams do it, and if we want to be competitive we need to be applying pressure on the refs too.

Screw the view, "Its just not cricket, trying to get a fellow professional sent off." So explain why so many players dive, make the acceptable "cynical" foul, run up to the ref screaming, make blatantly illegal 2 footed challenges etc... none of that shit is "in the game". If the challenge warranted a yellow then everyone should be letting the ref know about it. Especially away from home where the crowd can sway the ref.

Someone always finds a negative to a positive on here. You do know that it's also a yellow card offence to brandish an imaginary yellow card? If he got booked it would have been a silly yellow. There's nothing wrong with putting pressure on the ref but there's no need to try and get a player sent off.

 

[michaelden]

Someone always finds a negative to a positive on here. You do know that it's also a yellow card offence to brandish an imaginary yellow card? If he got booked it would have been a silly yellow. There's nothing wrong with putting pressure on the ref but there's no need to try and get a player sent off.

Why? So when their players fold in the penalty box with no contact aren't they trying to get a player booked/ sent off?

I don't see the difference b/n the 2. And when you have pundits saying, "He should've gone down" but then say, "Waving a card is disgraceful" I see it as hypocrisy

 

[yiddo23]

Ya I can see the views against doing it but at the same time I see absolutely nothing wrong with it, if a dude does something to be sent off for there's nothing wrong with letting the ref know, I mean if a player dropkicks another in the face I'm sure most people will be screaming for a red. Obviously an extreme case just to make a point that if someone deserves a red, they did it to themselves, no need to try and be nice and not let the ref know what you think, they fuck up enough as it is making decisions all on their own. If benteke didn't do anything to get a red then sure, you shouldn't be asking for one, but if he did, then he did, that's on him.

 

[Japhet]

Mason was lucky he didn't go too for putting his head in Benteke's face which looked worse IMO. Personally I think it was a very soft red card but then I come from an era when players didn't wear gloves and tights when the temperature went below 65F. Don't like it when players brandish imaginary cards and have no time for the 'everybody else does it' argument. Never want to see Spurs players cheat.

 

[Gb160]

I don't get it, you've got five players surrounding the ref who's got a decision to make....what do u think they're saying? Theyre trying to get the bloke sent off .....yet waving an imaginary card is seen as crime of the century??....there's no difference IMO.

 

[Geyzer Soze]

Someone always finds a negative to a positive on here. You do know that it's also a yellow card offence to brandish an imaginary yellow card? If he got booked it would have been a silly yellow. There's nothing wrong with putting pressure on the ref but there's no need to try and get a player sent off.

Is it a red card offence to brandish an imaginary red card?

 

[Geyzer Soze]

Double post

 

[Spurger King]

Is it a red card offence to brandish an imaginary red card?

Could always lie and say it was an imaginary balloon.

 

[DCSpurs]

I'll bet everyone on here thought that Fernando Torres should have been sent off for doing worse to Vertongen in our match with Chelsea last September. No remonstrations from our side then and no red card from the ref or action taken by the FA afterward. I like that Mason got in Benteke's face and forced the issue. He can hardly be confused with a hard man, but he stood up for his teammate and showed an intensity that is sadly lacking elsewhere in our club.

 

[sak11]

Although I don't like it, I reckon the spurs boys were just giving villa something back after they tried a similar thing with jan a little earlier for his two footed challenge. I don't think jan's warranted a red and I think benteke's was a very soft red. However villa were just as culpable in the unsporting behaviour stakes so got what they deserved after their over-exuberant hounding of the referee earlier

 

[newbie]

Years a go we were talking at work about this lad Kane who seemed to always be scoring at youth level so we looked him up to see what he looked like ex pecking him to be some brute, but instead the pic shows a tiny little skinny kid. We were disappointed and thought he will never be big enough to make it. How wrong we were he is becoming a monster there was no way Lamela could wrestle that ball off him. I am hoping he will be our muscle upfront because we need someone who can fight and win a ball, and hold it up. The kid is really technically good and clever Brad friedal said his the best finisher at spurs in a recent interview.

 

[slartibartfast]

Lot of valid points on here.
We shouldn't be brandishing imaginary cards as its a bookable offence as has been mentioned.
And in an ideal world we dont want to see Spurs players cheating and diving etc.... BUT we are not in an ideal world and spurs have been far too soft for far too long and we get absolutely walked all over it because of it.
Thats the first time in a long while I can remember seeing a large group of spurs players surrounding the ref and WE NEED TO more often.
Every other bugger does it and it DOES affect the ref in your favour. Thats why EVERY big team does it. Thats why EVERY big teams Manager moans like fuck and gets sent to the stands every other week. When was last time we had a manager who did that? Sherwood. Before that???
It infuriates me when we get crucified by a ref, as we did against City, and our manager comes out and says 'oh well, never mind better luck next time, its a hard job'. Wenger, Maureen, Fergie etc would be going absolutely ballistic at some of the shit we've had.
Same with cynical fouls. We are so far behind the big four because we're too nice. I guarantee you will never see a player run with the ball for 3/4 the length of the pitch against Chelsea or City. They WILL stop you playing. Not tackle you but stop you. By hook or by crook.
Its ugly, not fair, cheating even but unless we start playing by the same rules as those around us we'll always find it harder than those other cheating bastards.
edit- Kanes looking more like a Captain than any other fker on the pitch imo.

 

[newbie]

Lot of valid points on here.
We shouldn't be brandishing imaginary cards as its a bookable offence as has been mentioned.
And in an ideal world we dont want to see Spurs players cheating and diving etc.... BUT we are not in an ideal world and spurs have been far too soft for far too long and we get absolutely walked all over it because of it.
Thats the first time in a long while I can remember seeing a large group of spurs players surrounding the ref and WE NEED TO more often.
Every other bugger does it and it DOES affect the ref in your favour. Thats why EVERY big team does it. Thats why EVERY big teams Manager moans like fuck and gets sent to the stands every other week. When was last time we had a manager who did that? Sherwood. Before that???
It infuriates me when we get crucified by a ref, as we did against City, and our manager comes out and says 'oh well, never mind better luck next time, its a hard job'. Wenger, Maureen, Fergie etc would be going absolutely ballistic at some of the shit we've had.
Same with cynical fouls. We are so far behind the big four because we're too nice. I guarantee you will never see a player run with the ball for 3/4 the length of the pitch against Chelsea or City. They WILL stop you playing. Not tackle you but stop you. By hook or by crook.
Its ugly, not fair, cheating even but unless we start playing by the same rules as those around us we'll always find it harder than those other cheating bastards.
edit- Kanes looking more like a Captain than any other fker on the pitch imo.

On that note city had 3 really good pen shouts Sunday and got none I bet if it was us they would have been given oh wait they did get 3 pens against us for far less.

 

[slartibartfast]

On that note city had 3 really good pen shouts Sunday and got none I bet if it was us they would have been given oh wait they did get 3 pens against us for far less.

Spot on. Because the ref knows the shit he'll get from the man u players and butthead after the match even if it is a stone wall pen.
Little ole spurs wont make a peep so fuck em. Besides we need to keep City in the title race or this bugger will be finished by December the way Chelsea are going.
Love a good conspiracy lol.

 

[Japhet]

Lot of valid points on here.
We shouldn't be brandishing imaginary cards as its a bookable offence as has been mentioned.
And in an ideal world we dont want to see Spurs players cheating and diving etc.... BUT we are not in an ideal world and spurs have been far too soft for far too long and we get absolutely walked all over it because of it.
Thats the first time in a long while I can remember seeing a large group of spurs players surrounding the ref and WE NEED TO more often.
Every other bugger does it and it DOES affect the ref in your favour. Thats why EVERY big team does it. Thats why EVERY big teams Manager moans like fuck and gets sent to the stands every other week. When was last time we had a manager who did that? Sherwood. Before that???
It infuriates me when we get crucified by a ref, as we did against City, and our manager comes out and says 'oh well, never mind better luck next time, its a hard job'. Wenger, Maureen, Fergie etc would be going absolutely ballistic at some of the shit we've had.
Same with cynical fouls. We are so far behind the big four because we're too nice. I guarantee you will never see a player run with the ball for 3/4 the length of the pitch against Chelsea or City. They WILL stop you playing. Not tackle you but stop you. By hook or by crook.
Its ugly, not fair, cheating even but unless we start playing by the same rules as those around us we'll always find it harder than those other cheating bastards.
edit- Kanes looking more like a Captain than any other fker on the pitch imo.

Obviously works for many but I couldn't be 100% behind a bunch of whinging, play acting, tell-tale cheats. If that's the price of winning in football you can count me out. I don't blame City, Chelsea, Utd etc for getting away with it, but it's a huge part of why I hate the lot of them. I'm not enough of a hypocrite to suggest we should do the same.

 

[Sandwich Technician]

Lot of valid points on here.
We shouldn't be brandishing imaginary cards as its a bookable offence as has been mentioned.
And in an ideal world we dont want to see Spurs players cheating and diving etc.... BUT we are not in an ideal world and spurs have been far too soft for far too long and we get absolutely walked all over it because of it.
Thats the first time in a long while I can remember seeing a large group of spurs players surrounding the ref and WE NEED TO more often.
Every other bugger does it and it DOES affect the ref in your favour. Thats why EVERY big team does it. Thats why EVERY big teams Manager moans like fuck and gets sent to the stands every other week. When was last time we had a manager who did that? Sherwood. Before that???
It infuriates me when we get crucified by a ref, as we did against City, and our manager comes out and says 'oh well, never mind better luck next time, its a hard job'. Wenger, Maureen, Fergie etc would be going absolutely ballistic at some of the shit we've had.
Same with cynical fouls. We are so far behind the big four because we're too nice. I guarantee you will never see a player run with the ball for 3/4 the length of the pitch against Chelsea or City. They WILL stop you playing. Not tackle you but stop you. By hook or by crook.
Its ugly, not fair, cheating even but unless we start playing by the same rules as those around us we'll always find it harder than those other cheating bastards.
edit- Kanes looking more like a Captain than any other fker on the pitch imo.

I may be old fashioned but for me the best bit in the whole sorry game bar Kane and Mason's grit, will and determination to turn the game around, was Kane admonishing Lamela for the waving of the imaginary red card. I don't ever want to see my team lie down, get walked all over and not fight back, however I do want to see them go about it in the right way. I may be deluded but I like to think for all our faults and complications on and off the pitch, we are Tottenham Hotspur and are different to other teams.