Tactical analysis under Pochetinno

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[Antilokhos]

Interesting video, I always enjoy seeing stiff like that. But man, the misspellings of our players names really annoyed me.

 

[DaiT]

Thanks for posting.

 

[JAYSTAR]

Our movement and interchanging off the ball just leaves the oppo feeling totally uncertain what's going to happen and unsure who to mark. Players don't handover marking our players, so we end up with players free. Great system. Lots of work and awareness needed, but worth it, in terms of how difficult it is to defend against and for all the chances and balls into the box we can set up. We just need to get better at getting on the end of those crosses. Also, Walker's delivery needs to improve, if possible, or else we need to re-order the movement so that lamela ends up being the spare player on the right, so he can deliver the crosses.

 

[Gilzeanking]

man, the misspellings of our players names really annoyed me.

They've misspelt Davies as Davis I see .Weird thing , I've never heard an English commentator call Davies , Davies . Its always 'Davis' ....and no, foreign speaking commentators ever get it wrong . Annoying indeed .

 

[tiger666]

Great read.

Tottenham’s tactical evolution under Mauricio Pochettino – and how it ended Chelsea’s winning streak

http://www.squawka.com/news/expaine...d-how-it-ended-chelseas-winning-streak/870261

 

[chinaman]

Absolutely like this article. Thanks for posting.

 

[DIEHARD]

Interesting video, I always enjoy seeing stiff like that. But man, the misspellings of our players names really annoyed me.

I bet you do enjoy seeing stiff... Dirty boy

 

[Mr Pink]

Great read.

Tottenham’s tactical evolution under Mauricio Pochettino – and how it ended Chelsea’s winning streak

http://www.squawka.com/news/expaine...d-how-it-ended-chelseas-winning-streak/870261

Fantastic read, didn't realise Dembele's passing stats were so impressive.

 

[LexingtonSpurs]

I personally like the 343, or the variation we use. I think it fits most of our personnel well.

But, it raises a couple of questions in my mind that Poch should sort out soon. First, if this is the direction we are going - we need reinforcements to cover for Wanyama and/or Dier. Unless CCV is ready to step into a more prominent role - and we have not seen evidence that he is ready yet, we don't have enough CBs to play 3 in the back in 3 competitions. And, while Dier could fill in for Wanyama - that still leaves us short in the back, and risks burning out Dier across 3 competitions.

Second, this is a pretty significant shift in the type of players we need - i.e. less wingers, inverted or otherwise, and more quality backups for Kane, Eriksen, and Alli. We could also do with a better long-term back up to Rose, than Davies who is not ideal as a wing-back.

Third, and this will always be a challenge for a squad trying to build from within the academy - if we are training them to play in a 4231 formation, with inverted wingers, we should convert the academy squads to the 343. That is obviously not something we want to do every few months, so I think Poch and staff need to take a look at this by the summer, and decide how we want to play moving forward, so we can align the squad down to the Academy.

 

[JAYSTAR]

343 is the best fit for us right now imo. Wanyama was the out and out CDM we needed to make it work.
Against Chelsea, Poch basically highlighted for all to see, that Azpicuelta is highly vulnerable in the air. Hence our crossing to his post and Dele beating him twice. I suspect other teams will now attack Chelsea in the same way. Hopefully!

 

[thekneaf]

I personally like the 343, or the variation we use. I think it fits most of our personnel well.

But, it raises a couple of questions in my mind that Poch should sort out soon. First, if this is the direction we are going - we need reinforcements to cover for Wanyama and/or Dier. Unless CCV is ready to step into a more prominent role - and we have not seen evidence that he is ready yet, we don't have enough CBs to play 3 in the back in 3 competitions. And, while Dier could fill in for Wanyama - that still leaves us short in the back, and risks burning out Dier across 3 competitions.

Second, this is a pretty significant shift in the type of players we need - i.e. less wingers, inverted or otherwise, and more quality backups for Kane, Eriksen, and Alli. We could also do with a better long-term back up to Rose, than Davies who is not ideal as a wing-back.

Third, and this will always be a challenge for a squad trying to build from within the academy - if we are training them to play in a 4231 formation, with inverted wingers, we should convert the academy squads to the 343. That is obviously not something we want to do every few months, so I think Poch and staff need to take a look at this by the summer, and decide how we want to play moving forward, so we can align the squad down to the Academy.

What you really want is a team that can switch around as necessary. Last year Poch taught the team 4231 until they could play it blindfolded. This year there has necessarily been more experimentation, but a top team and a top coach should be able to role out a 434 or a 4231 or a 442 as and when it is needed. It has been to Wengers detriment that he plays 4231 [or 433 which looks almost the same the way he employs it] all the time.

Ideally you want to make it almost impossible for another manager to predict your tactics.

The next step for us is to get to the point where in game we shift from 343 to 4321 of 442. Once we get to that point we'll really be able to fuck with teams.

 

[midoNdefoe]

I personally like the 343, or the variation we use. I think it fits most of our personnel well.

But, it raises a couple of questions in my mind that Poch should sort out soon. First, if this is the direction we are going - we need reinforcements to cover for Wanyama and/or Dier. Unless CCV is ready to step into a more prominent role - and we have not seen evidence that he is ready yet, we don't have enough CBs to play 3 in the back in 3 competitions. And, while Dier could fill in for Wanyama - that still leaves us short in the back, and risks burning out Dier across 3 competitions.

Second, this is a pretty significant shift in the type of players we need - i.e. less wingers, inverted or otherwise, and more quality backups for Kane, Eriksen, and Alli. We could also do with a better long-term back up to Rose, than Davies who is not ideal as a wing-back.

Third, and this will always be a challenge for a squad trying to build from within the academy - if we are training them to play in a 4231 formation, with inverted wingers, we should convert the academy squads to the 343. That is obviously not something we want to do every few months, so I think Poch and staff need to take a look at this by the summer, and decide how we want to play moving forward, so we can align the squad down to the Academy.

I think pretty much everything Poch has said about the 3-4-3/4-2-3-1/4-3-3 is that it pretty much the least relevant part. Whatever they put up on the screen as our supposed formation doesnt make a blind bit of difference on the pitch...as its a fluid thing, ever changing as the game requires.
As in, there is very little difference between 3-4-3 and 4-2-3-1....the latter might aswell be the former with Dier being the deeper of the 2 holding mids....

So, in short, i wouldnt bother remoulding the entire club to be playing the 3-4-3, because its basically the same as what we play anyway...

 

[LexingtonSpurs]

I don't think its as simple as just moving players about - two key areas are relevant: playing with 3 in the back - that takes time and practice to get the spacing down. And, with the version of the 343 that we have used: we use two central attacking MFers behind, and working with, Kane. That is very different than playing with wingers - inverted or otherwise.

So, instead of chasing wingers in the transfer window, for instance, we should be looking at pacey players who can play centrally, but still get beyond a striker. Similar, yet different types of players. Same with how we are training players in the academy - do we want to focus on inverted wingers, or players developing skills more conducive to playing in the middle.

One of the inherent advantages to the academy is supposed to be that we are training everyone in the same tactics, so they can easily slot into a first team role. We lose abit of that if we are training separate tactics.

 

[Pellshek]

I personally like the 343, or the variation we use. I think it fits most of our personnel well.


Second, this is a pretty significant shift in the type of players we need - i.e. less wingers, inverted or otherwise, and more quality backups for Kane, Eriksen, and Alli. We could also do with a better long-term back up to Rose, than Davies who is not ideal as a wing-back.

Interesting observation.

 

[Shadydan]

I personally like the 343, or the variation we use. I think it fits most of our personnel well.

But, it raises a couple of questions in my mind that Poch should sort out soon. First, if this is the direction we are going - we need reinforcements to cover for Wanyama and/or Dier. Unless CCV is ready to step into a more prominent role - and we have not seen evidence that he is ready yet, we don't have enough CBs to play 3 in the back in 3 competitions. And, while Dier could fill in for Wanyama - that still leaves us short in the back, and risks burning out Dier across 3 competitions.

Second, this is a pretty significant shift in the type of players we need - i.e. less wingers, inverted or otherwise, and more quality backups for Kane, Eriksen, and Alli. We could also do with a better long-term back up to Rose, than Davies who is not ideal as a wing-back.

Third, and this will always be a challenge for a squad trying to build from within the academy - if we are training them to play in a 4231 formation, with inverted wingers, we should convert the academy squads to the 343. That is obviously not something we want to do every few months, so I think Poch and staff need to take a look at this by the summer, and decide how we want to play moving forward, so we can align the squad down to the Academy.

TBH with you I don't think they'll be a lot changes in our player recruitment, Poch is always on the look out for versatile players who can play in more than one position same for our academy, we will be training and nurturing players to be flexible and those who simply don't have the versatility of the coach's thinking I don't expect them to stick around.

It's something that's definitely worth thinking about though and all your points have merit but I think we'll be adapting to what is successful for us and molding our players around that.

 

[double0]

Poch was always a man of philosophy having an identity he also was flexible within he's ways. I couldn't understand the noise coming out from some sprouting the need to have a plan b. When you saw see the many subtle changes made progressively within games and against certain teams, we now are very much transformable...and poch deserves massive respect.

He is the best thing to happen to Spurs in recent history...I hope we start winning trophies too.

 

[tiger666]

Not sure if this was posted anywhere but I just found it. It's a couple of years old but a great analysis of Poch's system. 4-2-3-1 haters should read this.

http://theinsidechannel.com/a-guide-to-mauricio-pochettinos-tactics-at-totteham-hotspur/

 

[yusrisafri]

Boy did his selection of personnel stink last night. Son at LWB for the first time ever, in a semifinal of the Fa Cup? Not the right time Poch.

 

[tiger666]

Boy did his selection of personnel stink last night. Son at LWB for the first time ever, in a semifinal of the Fa Cup? Not the right time Poch.

Did you read the article are you just venting?