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thinktank

Hmmm...
Sep 28, 2004
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What do you disagree with? We were shit against Girona and all the chances we created against AC Milan were their doing.

The last time we played 433 was against Brighton, and we changed formation at HT. Before that was the away game in one of the cups, which was one of our worst performances of the season. I don't think we play it the way you envisage.
Didn't we change to 433 against Newcastle and win the game?

Will go back and watch the Brighton game...not how I remember it.

I clearly viewed pre-season differently from you...and that's ok.

We both don't have to think it's the solution.
 

Ghost Hardware

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Aug 31, 2012
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Hugo
Trips Toby Jan Rose
Dier
Dembele Eriksen
Lamela
Lucas Kane
Something like this could be interesting. But it's depending if Lamela is fit. I'm fairly certain Poch will play the same line up as he did against Utd tho. Would be tempted to try Winks and Vic but nether have played 90 mins on forever so against Liverpool is not the time to start. Son won't be fit enough for 90 and Dele could do with some matchs coming off the bench to kick him up a gear.
 

nedley

John Duncan's Love Child
Jul 28, 2006
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442

Hugo
Trippier
Toby
Verts
Rose

Winks
Dembele
Eriksen
Dier

Lucas
Kane
 

thinktank

Hmmm...
Sep 28, 2004
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I'd go aurier and rose for this one
Sad to say - and I defended him like a mofo last season - but it is just too risky in this game.

He'll get targetted and will fuck it for us.

Tripps is now more than capable to start this.

I may have said otherwise last season, but over/and since the world cup he's been outstanding.
 

kaz Hirai

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Nov 5, 2008
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Sad to say - and I defended him like a mofo last season - but it is just too risky in this game.

He'll get targetted and will fuck it for us.

Tripps is now more than capable to start this.

I may have said otherwise last season, but over/and since the world cup he's been outstanding.

True it's just he started the 4-1 win last season, and did well enough against mo as a lb
Worried bout trip against that pace
 

thinktank

Hmmm...
Sep 28, 2004
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True it's just he started the 4-1 win last season, and did well enough against mo as a lb
Worried bout trip against that pace
Tripps has totally switched on and is much better positionally.

Up to Poch to manage our FBs and organise cover for them when they fly up.

Really, in this game, we should leave it one-on-one-off unless the game is wide open.
 

yankspurs

Enic Out
Aug 22, 2013
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Lloris
Trippier Alderweireld Vertonghen Rose
Dier Winks
Lamela Dele Lucas
Son

Vorm, Sanchez, KWP, Wanyama, Dembele, Eriksen, Kane

Never gonna happen but i’d like it to. Eriksen needs a kick up the arse. And Kane hasnt been the Kane we know and love(for quite some time, actually). He needs resting and a kick up the arse.
 

journeyman

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Jul 26, 2005
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——————Lloris
Trippier—Toby—-Sanchez—-Verts
————-Dier——Dembele
—-Eriksen———————Dele
—————Lucas—Kane

Subs: Vorm, KWP, Rose, Wanyama, Winks, Lamela, Son
 

SEANSPURS1975

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Sep 21, 2005
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Abit early?, but anything to take my mind of that bullshit today.
Funny thing is 3 at the back is what we definitely should be playing against Liverpool (like at Wembley last year).
We didn’t lose that game today because we had 3 at the back. We lost because we played utter shit.
I hope Poch does and I’d 100% keep 3 at the back and if everyone is fit and firing this would be my team...
and in my opinion our best team??
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werty

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Aug 8, 2005
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Didn't we change to 433 against Newcastle and win the game?

Will go back and watch the Brighton game...not how I remember it.

I clearly viewed pre-season differently from you...and that's ok.

We both don't have to think it's the solution.
The game at the end of last season? No, I don't think so. If you mean this season then definitely not.

How did you view pre-season? Unless you saw the games before we went to the US, the only two games where we played 433 were those two. In what way did you view those games differently then me?
 

JCRD

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Aug 10, 2018
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Capable, if we treat the game right.

Would take a draw, though.

No

WE HAVE TO BEAT THEM. No two ways about it. If there is one game we have to win, it is this one. I hate them sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo much arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
 

thinktank

Hmmm...
Sep 28, 2004
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The game at the end of last season? No, I don't think so. If you mean this season then definitely not.

How did you view pre-season? Unless you saw the games before we went to the US, the only two games where we played 433 were those two. In what way did you view those games differently then me?
We're not going to agree on pre-season.

I'm quite sure one of our first 3 games we switched to 433 and remember it being discussed post-game by pundits.

Will go back and watch them.

I have no problem being proved wrong, as long as we give this shape a proper go.

I'm not wrong, though.
 

werty

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Aug 8, 2005
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We're not going to agree on pre-season.

I'm quite sure one of our first 3 games we switched to 433 and remember it being discussed post-game by pundits.

Will go back and watch them.

I have no problem being proved wrong, as long as we give this shape a proper go.

I'm not wrong, though.
The first three games in the league? We played a 4312 against Newcastle, 352 that switched to a 4312/4222 against fulham, a 4312 that switched to more of a 4222 against United. and a 352 that switched to whatever the fuck that was meant to be at the end. We might have gone 433 in the dying moments of games, but I'd imagine it didn't last more than 5 minutes across the games.

What kind of 433 do you want to play?
 

thinktank

Hmmm...
Sep 28, 2004
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occupying those exact positions on the pitch. you have to be brave.
It shifts/morphs according to the phases of the game...like any shape.

In the first half, the most important thing is to deny them width when they attack.

FB's have to be disciplined and drilled.

Vic has to sit. Just feed the ball to Eirksen/Winks.

And Moura and Son have to slot in if Eriksen and Winks get sucked out.

Work hard in the first half and look to counter with our weapons and then if the game opens up we can take more risks.
 

@Bobby__Lucky

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Aug 20, 2013
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Mousa's clearly about to go on a 'lemme give this ball to the opposition' run and I'd look to cut it short and have him come into the game from the bench if need be.

We've seen him do this before and it's not pretty.

Winks looks hungry af and I'd utilise the fire and energy he's got in him atm - it'd be infectious.

We need to be high-energy in this game throughout the park.

Totally agree with you. I also liked your team. Though I would choose Davies over Rose and Dier ahead of Wanyama…Both Vic and Danny are rusty with no game time and thought Danny was i lucky not to be a liability against Man U, though improved second half. Think Son will be too knackered and will play off the bench if anything. Im tempted to drop Eriksen as he was the poor today. I would go...

Llorris

TrIppier
Toby
Jan
Davis

Dier
Winks
Eriksen

Lucas
Kane
Alli

Id be tempted to play Lamela if fit. We need more desire in the team, it is infectious and a team with Winks, Lamela and Lucas in it is one i want to see. Alli i think deserves his place. Eriksen only keeps his on history, but him and dembele were our worst performers today.
 

@Bobby__Lucky

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It shifts/morphs according to the phases of the game...like any shape.

In the first half, the most important thing is to deny them width when they attack.

FB's have to be disciplined and drilled.

Vic has to sit. Just feed the ball to Eirksen/Winks.

And Moura and Son have to slot in if Eriksen and Winks get sucked out.

Work hard in the first half and look to counter with our weapons and then if the game opens up we can take more risks.

I think Vic struggles with this, he's a hunter IMO. Roams to hunt his prey.
 

thinktank

Hmmm...
Sep 28, 2004
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The first three games in the league? We played a 4312 against Newcastle, 352 that switched to a 4312/4222 against fulham, a 4312 that switched to more of a 4222 against United. and a 352 that switched to whatever the fuck that was meant to be at the end. We might have gone 433 in the dying moments of games, but I'd imagine it didn't last more than 5 minutes across the games.

What kind of 433 do you want to play?
In terms off defensive/attacking sensibility?

Depends who our opponents are.

Pretty sure there decent enthusiasm for 433 in the pre-season match threads.

Will have a delve a bit later.
 

bubble07

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Dec 27, 2004
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Lloris
Trippier Alderweireld Vertonghen Rose
Winks Dier
Moura Eriksen Dele
Kane

Subs: vorm sanchez davies dembele wanyama lamela son
 
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