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Hercules

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You could say the same with Zaha. If he ends up at Ars, Poch will not be happy no matter how good his supposed relationship is with DL
Glad you said that Breezer, as I was going to add his name, but chose not to. You are absolutely correct. ‘Supposed relationship’ is a good one. I would suggest ‘challenging’ of late.
 

Japhet

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1. That’s your opinion and fair enough but Poch thinks highly of Barkley as per all the ITK and wants him at the club.

2. If we get him on a 4 year deal he will have a big sale price should we wish to let him go, on the other hand if he does really well then we have got him on a cheap fee.

3. Wages of £100K are a lot but we have Sissoko on around £90K and if Barkley replaces him then we can always sell Sissoko.

Yes you can look at it from a glass half empty perspective but considering his talent, age and price in today’s market it looks a bargain IMO.

OK, so to answer your points;

1) Poch also thought highly of Sissoko and wanted him at the club. Same for Stambouli, N'Jie and N'koudou, none of whom were injured at the time.
2) Barkley might not recover from his current injuries and might not be worth anything should we decide to move on from him. In the meantime we could well use up wages and a squad place on a player we bought who wasn't fully fit when we could have brought in somebody who could actually do a decent job
3) Sissoko is (unbelievably) on 90k. I doubt anybody else would consider him on that wage which means we're most likely stuck with him. This is the same Sissoko who Poch bizarrely wanted but is now, according to many, a complete waste of money and time.

This whole Barkley thing reminds me of buying a car with no MOT and no history with a few funny knocks and noises under the bonnet. The difference is that when you factor in wages the cost is likely to be around 35 million. I think that's a big gamble. People seem so desperate to get a deal done but I'm sure they'd all be laughing their tits off if Utd, Liverpool, Arsenal etc bought a player in these circumstances. Suddenly, Barkley is the answer to all our problems and can play anywhere and do anything. I don't buy it, and din't even before he was injured. Maybe that is 'glass half empty', but I've been a supporter for over 50 years - it goes with the territory.
 
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shelfboy68

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OK, so to answer your points;

1) Poch also thought highly of Sissoko and wanted him at the club.
2) Barkley might not recover from his current injuries and might not be worth anything should we decide to move on from him. In the meantime we could well use up wages and a squad place on a player we bought who wasn't fully fit when we could have brought in somebody who could actually do a decent job
3) Sissoko is (unbelievably) on 90k. I doubt anybody else would consider him on that wage which means we're most likely stuck with him. This is the same Sissoko who Poch bizarrely wanted but is now, according to many, a complete waste of money and time.

This whole Barkley thing reminds me of buying a car with no MOT and no history with a few funny knocks and noises under the bonnet. The difference is that when you factor in wages the cost is likely to be around 35 million. I think that's a big gamble. People seem so desperate to get a deal done but I'm sure they'd all be laughing their tits off if Utd, Liverpool, Arsenal etc bought a player in these circumstances. Suddenly, Barkley is the answer to all our problems and can play anywhere and do anything. I don't buy it, and din't even before he was injured. Maybe that is 'glass half empty, but I've been a supporter for over 50 years - it goes with the territory.
Good points but whether Barkley is the wrong or right move the fact remains that the club need to find decent additions to cover squad deficiencies, without them it leaves us short when injuries occur and a better chance of taking the top five on in their yards.
 

worcestersauce

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OK, so to answer your points;

1) Poch also thought highly of Sissoko and wanted him at the club.
2) Barkley might not recover from his current injuries and might not be worth anything should we decide to move on from him. In the meantime we could well use up wages and a squad place on a player we bought who wasn't fully fit when we could have brought in somebody who could actually do a decent job
3) Sissoko is (unbelievably) on 90k. I doubt anybody else would consider him on that wage which means we're most likely stuck with him. This is the same Sissoko who Poch bizarrely wanted but is now, according to many, a complete waste of money and time.

This whole Barkley thing reminds me of buying a car with no MOT and no history with a few funny knocks and noises under the bonnet. The difference is that when you factor in wages the cost is likely to be around 35 million. I think that's a big gamble. People seem so desperate to get a deal done but I'm sure they'd all be laughing their tits off if Utd, Liverpool, Arsenal etc bought a player in these circumstances. Suddenly, Barkley is the answer to all our problems and can play anywhere and do anything. I don't buy it, and din't even before he was injured. Maybe that is 'glass half empty, but I've been a supporter for over 50 years - it goes with the territory.
It's funny, I came to the £35 million figure and thought over five years that's not bad at all unless he doesn't recover from his current injuries of course, but then that is the most unlikely outcome, as I posted earlier, how many players does that ever happen to? it's so rare it's almost a myth, all the odds are in favour of him doing what just about every other injured player has done, recover completely.
I remember United buying a player after he had a crippling injury that people thought he wouldn't recover from, Ruud van Nistelroy was his name!
I would much rather he hadn't got injured but it shouldn't be the a deal breaker.
 

Japhet

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Good points but whether Barkley is the wrong or right move the fact remains that the club need to find decent additions to cover squad deficiencies, without them it leaves us short when injuries occur and a better chance of taking the top five on in their yards.


Absolutely, which is why taking a big punt on Barkley makes no sense to me. Get someone in who's ready to go.
 

Mckenna88

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With all this talk of possible missing of targets RB, Zaha. Is it impossible to see a situation of Poch getting so frustrated that he takes a new job in the summer (psg, Man u, RM)

Basically if we don't get the key players he wants over the line could it have deeper problems for us?
 

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With all this talk of possible missing of targets RB, Zaha. Is it impossible to see a situation of Poch getting so frustrated that he takes a new job in the summer (psg, Man u, RM)

Basically if we don't get the key players he wants over the line could it have deeper problems for us?

Who knows if it will be that bad but the ITK’s suggestion that Poch will not be happy if we miss our targets doesn’t bod well.
 

danielneeds

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Signing Barkley while he's not proved his fitness is a massive gamble. It may be 'only' 10m or whatever, but he'd be on big wages because of that. What length of contract should we offer? He'll want a long deal, but what if he's way off the player he used to be, and there are plenty of examples of that. Money down the drain. A short contract has plenty of pitfalls for us as well. Does Levy have any record of signing players with injury concerns? No, he doesn't. I can only see him as squad depth if we're lucky when we could do with a long term solution to Dembele and competition for Eriksen. At his best, Barkley when he was 100% was well short of both IMO.
It is in no way a gamble because no matter how shit he could be here, the likes of Stoke, Newcastle and others would sign him in a heartbeat for more than we’d pay for him in a couple of years.

He’s a free hit. Either he comes, and blossoms, or we sell him and more than make our money back. Plus he fulfills home grown quotas too.
 

danielneeds

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Glad you said that Breezer, as I was going to add his name, but chose not to. You are absolutely correct. ‘Supposed relationship’ is a good one. I would suggest ‘challenging’ of late.
There is not a manager alive who thinks their chairman gives them enough resources. They always want more.
 

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There is not a manager alive who thinks their chairman gives them enough resources. They always want more.
I haven't seen Pochettino complain about the amount spent. It'd be nice if occasionally, he named a player and we went out and got him as opposed to missing out (for whatever reason but we can all guess) and getting second or third on the list. If he wants Barkley and or Zaha, go out and get the fuckers and if you fail, don't let it be because you were offering ridiculously low wages, stupid transfer fee offers, played chicken and lost or bickered over who pays the fifty pounds in parking tickets :D
 

Japhet

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It is in no way a gamble because no matter how shit he could be here, the likes of Stoke, Newcastle and others would sign him in a heartbeat for more than we’d pay for him in a couple of years.

He’s a free hit. Either he comes, and blossoms, or we sell him and more than make our money back. Plus he fulfills home grown quotas too.


100k per week isn't a 'free hit'. If he doesn't work out nobody else would pay those wages either. Signing an injured player is a gamble. We'll see if Levy agrees I guess.
 
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danielneeds

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100k per week isn't a 'free hit'. If he doesn't work out nobody else would pay those wages either. Signing an injured player is a gamble. We'll see if Levy agrees I guess.
As I said, we’ll make back the wages on any transfer fee. If it’s true that the fee now is close to £10m, on a decent contract he’d go for twice that even if he does nothing here.
 

Bus-Conductor

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Who's this Malcolm geezer?

Nippy, direct left footer who plays right forward or ARM for Bordeaux.

I flagged him up in the ligue1 thread early on in the season. He’s a lively fucker but I’m not totally convinced - yet - I don’t think he’ll ever be Hazard level quality. He could end up being another Boufal type. But he could kick on and be a little better than that I guess.
 
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Jospur

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There's so much talk about Barkley, Zaha and other attacking midfielders/forwards - but I really don't see this as the Club's greatest need.

Last season we did very well with Kane, Alli, Eriksen and Son up top. Now we can add Lamela to the mix. That's a great group of forwards. Who would you drop for Zaha or Barkley and would the newcomer offer that much more to the team?

On the other hand look at the centre of midfield. We have Wanyama and Dier - both defensive midfielders - and oft-injured Dembele, and the emerging Winks. Sissoko?

We're competing against some very strong (and rich) clubs. We need to spend money where we have the greatest need - and that's the middle of the park. We need a creator/game controller. In my opinion. Of course.

Bringing in Zaha is all very well but he's not that much better (if at all) than what we have. At the very least it would be debatable. We need someone like Kovacic (Real Madrid) or Seri (Nice). These are players that could make a difference now, lift the squad, and set us up for a strong second half of the season and ready for next year's campaign.

Some are saying that Pochettino wants Barkley. Maybe he does. I'm suggesting that if he's the great coach we think he is then he probably wants another player in another position more than Barkley or Zaha or similar.
 
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