The anti-Stratford protests begin!

[SpurSince57]

CP zones so the council can target spurs fans for daring to drive anywhere near the ground.

Oh, sorry, I forgot you were of the belief that Tottenham residents should vacate the area on matchdays so you can park where the fuck you like. I do hope it wasn't you that parked his Lexus across my neighbour's driveway a bit before the CPZ came into operation and blocked him in. How that breeze-block ended up in the driver's seat is one of those mysteries that will never be solved, I guess.

 

[SpurSince57]

Moving to Stratford wont affect our heritage at all. What happened in our history would still have happened.

What Stratford would give us is a chance of having a future where we can compete for all honours. Our current stadium won't do that and I can't see them building the NDP as it would cost far to much.

There's no point having a 60,000 seat stadium if you've had to sell all your best players to fund it.

I would love us to be able to redevelop WHL but Stratford would be better in just about every way.[/QUOTE]

Believe the bullshit…

 

[spursphil]

Oh, sorry, I forgot you were of the belief that Tottenham residents should vacate the area on matchdays so you can park where the fuck you like. I do hope it wasn't you that parked his Lexus across my neighbour's driveway a bit before the CPZ came into operation and blocked him in. How that breeze-block ended up in the driver's seat is one of those mysteries that will never be solved, I guess.

No I'm afraid it wasn't me I'm a profesional i would never do such a thing, mind you i wouldn't comit an act of vandalism either.

What i do know is that the goverment collect £5.63billion a year in road tax and spend about £1.5 billion on the roads. Road tax was brought in to provide free parking and the upkeep of the roads, goverments both local and central are blatantly robbing the motorist, and its not on.

 

[roosh]

Like some (or many) my heart says N17 but my head says Stratford.

I'm not up on all the figures and details, so my unqualified opinion might be seioruly open to debunking, but on the surface at least, it appears that a move to Stratford makes more sense all round, which can only be a positive thing for the club, surely (as well as the shareholders).

If we move to the Olympic Stadium it will cost us less to build a stadium and we won't have to spend money, time and resources on building and managing properties that do not form part of spurs core competencies as an enterprise and football club. Money, time and resources that could be applied, in part, to the footballing side of things.

At a guess a stadium at the OS site would probably be a more suitable venue for non-footballing events, such as concerts, which would result in greater revenue for the club.

There would be no disruption caused by developing a stadium at the OS site, whereas there would be major disruption caused by redeveloping WHL. There would also be a reduced capacity for a period wouldn't there? when the final section of the new stadium would be completed.

All the transport links and necessary ameneities would already be built, so there would be less disruption for fans travelling to games.

EDIT:

if we move to the OS we will also have an asset in the form of the land we vacate. Granted, it wouldn't be prime real-estate, but it would still be an asset.

 

[spursphil]

I agree, we could flatten the whole WHL site and turn it into one big car park, charge a tenner a pop to park and the fans could walk to Northumberland Park for the train to Stratford.

They would still have that going to Tottenham feel about the whole day. And for that authentic Tottenham experience when they got back to their cars they would find one of their windows caved in and the stereo gone.

Problem solved with the usage for the old site and the club make a bundle in parking fee's, sorted.:rofl:

p.s. No need to jump on me I'm only kidding. Blame SS57 he gave me the idea!

 

[EastLondonYid]

can't wait to move to Stratford it will be great for the club to move out the ghetto :lol:

Aaaaaaaaaahhhhh......scared to walk to the ground are we.

Shame on anyone who wants to desert where we belong.

Why don't we ground share with west ham as well, fuck our roots, think of all that money we will make.

 

[michaelden]

Shame on me then. Assuming all we've been told is true I am definitely keen on the move

 

[stevenqoz]

Times do change but Spurs and Arsenal fans in Hackney would normally have outnumbered West Ham supporters at least 10 to 1.

 

[MattyP]

Shame on me then. Assuming all we've been told is true I am definitely keen on the move

The IOC assumed that when they were told that the Olympic Site would retain the running track it was also true.

 

[EastLondonYid]

I applaud them totally.....this will grow ...and Levy will see that the tottenham fans won't tolerate a move....most i speak to say they will protest after the decision in 2 weeks, they still think west ham will get the nod.

If we get it and go for it, there will be the mother of all protests by the spurs faithful, the polls on SC don't tell the true story ,trust me it will be massive and not nice.

 

[michaelden]

The IOC assumed that when they were told that the Olympic Site would retain the running track it was also true.

They're hardly a shining example of honesty, it would be pretty absurd if they started to call us liars

 

[talkshowhost86]

Whichever way you look at it the fans are going to need a much more significant protest than that on Sunday to sway Levy's opinion. The gathering on the streets was pretty minimal and the chanting in the ground was even relatively muted. I just don't think that WeareN17 and co have the support of the majority of fans at this stage and until that happens I'm not sure how much notice Levy will pay.

For the record I still think that the savings/increased profits of moving to Stratford should be considered rather than just adopting a knee-jerk 'it's our history innit' approach but either way the fans opinion won't mean a thing until a greater majority are involved.

 

[MattyP]

They're hardly a shining example of honesty, it would be pretty absurd if they started to call us liars

I just think that if you give your word on something, you should stick to it.

Whichever way you look at it the fans are going to need a much more significant protest than that on Sunday to sway Levy's opinion. The gathering on the streets was pretty minimal and the chanting in the ground was even relatively muted. I just don't think that WeareN17 and co have the support of the majority of fans at this stage and until that happens I'm not sure how much notice Levy will pay.

For the record I still think that the savings/increased profits of moving to Stratford should be considered rather than just adopting a knee-jerk 'it's our history innit' approach but either way the fans opinion won't mean a thing until a greater majority are involved.

I'm happy to be proved wrong, but as far as I know the protest at the main gates on Sunday had nothing to do with WeareN17 and was only initiated from Thursday evening.

 

[nightgoat]

There would be no disruption caused by developing a stadium at the OS site, whereas there would be major disruption caused by redeveloping WHL. There would also be a reduced capacity for a period wouldn't there? when the final section of the new stadium would be completed.

When the original plan was announced by the time we were to move into the 3/4 completed new stadium its capacity would supposedly be higher than the existing White Hart Lane, so we would never have to operate at a reduced capacity...

 

[EastLondonYid]

2118607]Whichever way you look at it the fans are going to need a much more significant protest[/b] than that on Sunday to sway Levy's opinion. The gathering on the streets was pretty minimal and the chanting in the ground was even relatively muted. I just don't think that WeareN17 and co have the support of the majority of fans at this stage and until that happens I'm not sure how much notice Levy will pay.

For the record I still think that the savings/increased profits of moving to Stratford should be considered rather than just adopting a knee-jerk 'it's our history innit' approach but either way the fans opinion won't mean a thing until a greater majority are involved.

Maybe so...but i think most are waiting to see the decision first.

Not wanting to move our club is not a Knee-jerk reaction, thats an insult, we are entitled to have an opinion, and by suggesting its knee-jerk, is to presume we havn't thought it through, how can you possible know that MOD?

Fans support clubs for a variety of different reasons, and all have different feelings towards the area and its role in shaping our club and making it what it is today....knee-jerk is such a loose term to describe how many who don't ever want our club to move feel.

 

[talkshowhost86]

I'm happy to be proved wrong, but as far as I know the protest at the main gates on Sunday had nothing to do with WeareN17 and was only initiated from Thursday evening.

I was about to ask who organised it. Presumably they'll try and organise something a bit more significant if we're named as 'preferred bidder'.

 

[MattyP]

I was about to ask who organised it. Presumably they'll try and organise something a bit more significant if we're named as 'preferred bidder'.

Apart from being Spurs fans I have no idea who organised it.

WeareN17 have been pretty decent at communicating when things are/have been planned, so I'd imagine if and when they get involved it will be a lot more co-ordinated than Sunday.

If they (WeareN17) did in fact organise Sunday, then it's no surprise there were so few people there as they didn't tell people who had actually signed up to support their cause.

 

[talkshowhost86]

Apart from being Spurs fans I have no idea who organised it.

WeareN17 have been pretty decent at communicating when things are/have been planned, so I'd imagine if and when they get involved it will be a lot more co-ordinated than Sunday.

If they (WeareN17) did in fact organise Sunday, then it's no surprise there were so few people there as they didn't tell people who had actually signed up to support their cause.

It would be a shame if the fans didn't get their feelings across properly. That's a couple of pretty much aborted attempts at a protest and there is a risk that the opponents of the move have left it a bit late.

I don't agree with the WeareN17 policy of 'stay at all costs' but whichever side of the argument you fall on it is important that the fans get heard. If it turns out that 25000+ fans who actually go to the matches week in week out don't want to move then Levy would be rightly criticised for moving us. If the number is more like 5000 then I'm not so sure.

 

[SpurSince57]

Of course, if we were a club in any more than name Levy would organise a poll of members.

I checked the THST website to see if they had a view. It was last updated in March. Brilliant.

 

[michaelden]

good point tsh