The Banana incident

[riggi]

I want pies chucked at the league cup game.

 

[spurs9]

And whilst I agree throwing a banana on to the pitch is going to cause questions, my point is that this guy threw what in his mind was the nearest thing to him, at Bellerin, and the headlines were "Racist Spurs fan throws banana at Aubameyang". That cannot be right and the media have to be more responsible.

I used to think this kind of victim mentality was limited to Liverpool fans but seems like it is spreading.

The guy threw a banana (and it being just the skin is irrelevant) in the direction of a person of colour, which is a well known racist gesture, so of course the media (and everyone else) are going to assume and report it this way. No one was thinking "that was obviously meant for Bellerin".

 

[southlondonyiddo]

I want pies chucked at the league cup game.

I might bake a honey cake and take it along. i can see that doing some serious damage. Can get extremely sticky

 

[spurs9]

My wife hates all sport with football her no1 hate said "does anybody believe in todays climate that a person throwing a banana would be doing so as a racist gesture. really. this was an act of someone who got overexcited and threw the banana without thinking" well I make her right and speaking of right it did not take Ian Wright long to jump on the have a pop at spurs bandwagon tosser.

She is obviously doesn't realise that it has been done many times as a racist gesture in today's climate. Not sure how anyone can attack Ian Wright on this, he defended us and just condemned the incident, which on the face of it does look like a racist gesture.

If an Arsenal fan threw a Banana skin in the direction of one of our black players and said it wasn't racist he was aiming for Dier, we wouldn't be having a bar of it, so why would any none Spurs fan?

 

[wrd]

End of the day it looks terrible but if this set of events is true then there will be cctv footage to deem it not racially motivated

 

[worcestersauce]

I used to think this kind of victim mentality was limited to Liverpool fans but seems like it is spreading.

The guy threw a banana (and it being just the skin is irrelevant) in the direction of a person of colour, which is a well known racist gesture, so of course the media (and everyone else) are going to assume and report it this way. No one was thinking "that was obviously meant for Bellerin".

So what you are saying that people shouldn't be so upset that the media got it wrong as it was a genuine mistake?

End of the day it looks terrible but if this set of events is true then there will be cctv footage to deem it not racially motivated

Which presumably the club and police have seen as they are not following he racist angle.

 

[wrd]

So what you are saying that people shouldn't be so upset that the media got it wrong as it was a genuine mistake?

Which presumably the club and police have seen as they are not following he racist angle.

Yh the club wont be able to say its not racially motivated in the current climate of wanting to burn somebody on a cross. I wonder if police will make a statement

 

[worcestersauce]

Yh the club wont be able to say its not racially motivated in the current climate of wanting to burn somebody on a cross. I wonder if police will make a statement

Just going by the OP that the police are not prosecuting a racist act just throwing a missile.

 

[spurs9]

So what you are saying that people shouldn't be so upset that the media got it wrong as it was a genuine mistake?

Which presumably the club and police have seen as they are not following he racist angle.

We don't know for sure they did get it wrong, we just have his word for it.

The club and police not following it up isn't evidence of anything.

 

[cider spurs]

 

[worcestersauce]

We don't know for sure they did get it wrong, we just have his word for it.

The club and police not following it up isn't evidence of anything.

It sort of is.

 

[spurs9]

It sort of is.

I suppose, it's evidence that Police can prove beyond doubt that he threw the banana but proving it was racially motivated isn't a 100% open and shut case and not worth pursuing in scheme of things (let's not forget they are underfunded, understaffed and have bigger issues). It's evidence that the club don't want a fine from UEFA, it's about all it proves though.

 

[worcestersauce]

I suppose, it's evidence that Police can prove beyond doubt that he threw the banana but proving it was racially motivated isn't a 100% open and shut case and not worth pursuing in scheme of things (let's not forget they are underfunded, understaffed and have bigger issues). It's evidence that the club don't want a fine from UEFA, it's about all it proves though.

That is one argument and I respect it, it does however bring us back to the media assuming it was an open and cut case.

 

[shelfboy68]

I suppose, it's evidence that Police can prove beyond doubt that he threw the banana but proving it was racially motivated isn't a 100% open and shut case and not worth pursuing in scheme of things (let's not forget they are underfunded, understaffed and have bigger issues). It's evidence that the club don't want a fine from UEFA, it's about all it proves though.

Much has been said regarding how quick the police reacted but thankfully they kept them peeled.

 

[Navin R Johnson]

Why not combine a love of origami and throwing things at people in a harmless way?

They could show it on pay per view.

 

[tototoner]

Stupid for throwing anything

Stupid for not realising the significance of a banana skin

To be honest I think I lifetime ban for spur of the moment stupidity is harsh but the PC Brigade will most likely demand that

 

[BringBack_leGin]

In the current climate, with the polices current mandate of positive charging for certain issues, including any racially aggravated offences, if there was even on shred of inclination or evidence that this was in fact racially aggravated then this guy would be charged with racially aggravated common assault or racially aggravated harassment, both of which are can be tried by indictment. The fact that he’s not being charged with any racially aggravated offence is good enough for me to think he is telling the truth, he is not racist and this act was not racially motivated.

The police will investigate and push the cps to charge on anything that they feel has a reasonable chance of conviction in court, in fact that’s the criteria for charging, and with racially aggravated offences they’ll always investigate on the basis that it was racially aggravated if there is any suspicion of that. Clearly they don’t have any concerns about this being a racist act so if they don’t, nobody in here, the media or anywhere else is entitled to assume this fellow is anything other than a pratt who did something stupid when angry.

He deserves his banning, he’s not a racist.

 

[MattyP]

Evening Standard said despite what this chap said in the national press, the OB have not ruled out charging it as a racial incident.

One picture I saw earlier appeared that he was throwing it in a completely different direction to where PEA was standing.

 

[SpunkyBackpack]

Good lord the amount of mental gymnastics happening in this thread it's a surprise we haven't got a SC team entered in the Olympics.

 

[GMI]

I might bake a honey cake and take it along. i can see that doing some serious damage. Can get extremely sticky

Banana bread?