The Brexit Plan to Limit Foreign Players to 12 Per Premier League Club

[smallsnc]

The Times is reporting that the FA is proposing to the clubs this week a plan to limit the number of foreign players to 12 for each Premier League side. If the clubs do not agree, then EU players may have to meet the same rules as non-EU players to get a work permit. Under the plan, the FA would endorse any non-EU player for a work permit if signed by a PL club.

Times Article

What does everyone think the impact would be? Short term? Long term? Not sure when it would take affect but this could be major shift in league football in Europe.

 

[buckley]

What I think is that English football has never been in a more powerful position I.E the under age teams are world champions at two levels plus runners up in another plus toulon winners two years running plus the first team reached a World Cup semi final . I just don't get the need to change things they are fine as they are and I believe this is only being mooted so that certain F.A. people see something like this is to justify there positions .Typical change things that don't need changing to justify there meaningless jobs.

 

[ComfortablyNumb]

Does the FA actually have much influence in this? Work permits are a government thing, is the FA’s ‘endorsement’ actually worth that much?

 

[coys200]

Tbh would losing llorente Vorm nkoudou Aurier wanyama make a huge difference to us. Sure we could find adequate English replacements.

 

[allatsea]

Tbh would losing llorente Vorm nkoudou Aurier wanyama make a huge difference to us. Sure we could find adequate English replacements.

The prices for decent English players would be even more ridiculous than then already are.

 

[JimmyG2]

Over two thirds
of Premiership players are foreign.

Opportunities for breakthrough
or even steady development
of our own young players
is obviously being blocked.

Look at the England team
if you doubt the impact.
Our own youngsters
are being loaned out abroad
for opportunities.

Some additional curb is necessary.
Whether 12 is the right level
I don't know.

 

[daryl hannah]

Presumably they're proposing it to make us more competitive as a national team. Don't buy this Brexit thing.

But who really gives two hoots about the national team on a daily basis.

Just keep things as they are and don't change things for the sake of it.

 

[danielneeds]

This sums up everything wrong with Brexit. We'd finally got to the point where our young players had got brave enough to start going out to play in other leagues, to learn other ways of thinking and expand their horizons. This would have benefited the national game far more than forcing PL clubs to pay more just to stockpile English squad players.

As things often seem to be these days, the whole thing is the wrong way round.

 

[smallsnc]

Does the FA actually have much influence in this? Work permits are a government thing, is the FA’s ‘endorsement’ actually worth that much?

They do. A lot of non-Euro players go to other leagues because they cannot meet the requirements to get a work permit in England. If this same level were enforced against Euro players, a good number, especially younger players that have not established themselves on their full national team would not be able to get permits.

 

[dtxspurs]

Why would the clubs agree to this? Won't it have to be voted on?

No chance the clubs would go for this.

I would like if they could alter some sort of rule to include all English players as HG, mind boggling the whole point of it was to promote English players and we have a freaking English international who doesn't count as HG.

 

[ComfortablyNumb]

They do. A lot of non-Euro players go to other leagues because they cannot meet the requirements to get a work permit in England. If this same level were enforced against Euro players, a good number, especially younger players that have not established themselves on their full national team would not be able to get permits.

I get that, but what has that got to do with the FA? They don’t police the work permit rules, as far as I know. Government hates the FA anyway, and a Conservative govt is more likely to listen to the Premier League, because it’s a successful business, not a bunch of old farts.

 

[Metalhead]

This sums up everything wrong with Brexit. We'd finally got to the point where our young players had got brave enough to start going out to play in other leagues, to learn other ways of thinking and expand their horizons. This would have benefited the national game far more than forcing PL clubs to pay more just to stockpile English squad players.

As things often seem to be these days, the whole thing is the wrong way round.

Brilliant point mate. It's great to see English players willing to ply their trade in other leagues. I always felt that English players especially can be a bit, maybe narrow minded isn't quite the right word, but having a parochial view of the world and not wanting to try other cultures. I definitely think that the England team will benefit from players being able to easily play in other leagues and gaining experience from those leagues.

 

[coy-spurs1882]

Tbh would losing llorente Vorm nkoudou Aurier wanyama make a huge difference to us. Sure we could find adequate English replacements.

i don't think we would find replacements externally as someone like grealish would have a price tag of 80m

llorente → harrison / sterling / parrott
vorm → whiteman / de bie
nkoudou → edwards / shashoua / roles
aurier → kwp
wanyama → skipp / onomah / tob

 

[Col_M]

Interesting spin. “Brexit Plan”. Surely it’s the FA’s Plan and has NOTHING to do with Brexit. They do suggest if no agreement then they will count EU players as foreign but that’s the FA”s decision.

 

[BehindEnemyLines]

What I think is that English football has never been in a more powerful position I.E the under age teams are world champions at two levels plus runners up in another plus toulon winners two years running plus the first team reached a World Cup semi final . I just don't get the need to change things they are fine as they are and I believe this is only being mooted so that certain F.A. people see something like this is to justify there positions .Typical change things that don't need changing to justify there meaningless jobs.

Their
They're
There

 

[smallsnc]

Interesting spin. “Brexit Plan”. Surely it’s the FA’s Plan and has NOTHING to do with Brexit. They do suggest if no agreement then they will count EU players as foreign but that’s the FA”s decision.

My understanding is that the FA has to give an endorsement for a non-EU and potentially any foreign player to get a work permit based on a points based qualification that uses both caps with national team and transfer fees to rate the player. If the endorsement is not there, then the player can sign with the English team but cannot play because he cannot get a work permit. If EU players were to have to follow the same path to work permit, it would definitely make it harder to bring over young players that had not yet established themselves as national team regulars without overpaying for them.

This, in my opinion, would not hurt the top clubs as much as it would clubs 7-20 meaning there may be the votes to accept the FA's proposal.

 

[buckley]

I dont profess to being the brightest firework in the box but I profess to be a tolerant person in regard to other peoples failings.
I do not think its smart to go around correcting other peoples grammar ;instead of making you look clever Mr behind the lines it makes you a smug smartarce who instead of looking around to correct people you could try posting something people might like to discuss or read with interest instead of acting like a retired schoolteacher who is missing his corrective training of young schoolboys.
There is or their is or they're is an innuendo in there their they're somewhere.

 

[yankspurs]

Oooo the already absurd english bonus might rise ten fold again? Baldy’s happy as he wont spend it anyway

 

[Mornstar]

Over two thirds
of Premiership players are foreign.

Opportunities for breakthrough
or even steady development
of our own young players
is obviously being blocked.

Look at the England team
if you doubt the impact.
Our own youngsters
are being loaned out abroad
for opportunities.

Some additional curb is necessary.
Whether 12 is the right level
I don't know.

If this was meant to be a poem/song (the way it is formatted suggests it is), I'm sorry to say it's a little bit crap.

 

[JimmyG2]

If this was meant to be a poem/song (the way it is formatted suggests it is), I'm sorry to say it's a little bit crap.

And if it wasn't?