The Daily ITK Discussion Thread - 11 August 2011

[kdspur]

Harry ain't happy people. Just had my gaffer ranting. I seems that he is being ignored. Is this te same old same old? Harry names targets and the board say cheers Harry, then shop elsewhere. Something is a miss here. We've still got a great squad of players but Harry is making it clear to some that they are welcome to stay when it seems the board want shot. Is this the hold up that the journo was alluding to?

I'd expect another "it's gonna be tough to finish 6th" speech anytime soon

ill keep saying it that levy and his chronies are fucking us up big time. dont care what anyone else says about good financial sense and all that he has a terrible relationship with all other clubs from what i hear and i firmly believe he is very wet behind ears when it comes to getting tranfers done and getting out of blocks early. i dont think a sporting director is the answer either one bit. the only answer is to get a billionaire in who knows that money talks and fucking the penny pinching.

levy and spurs have invested alot and got us to a certain point in table but what it takes now is balls and, the way football has gone , investment to attract the biigger world lass player to make all the difference to the side. He can't and won't do it imo. No wonder harry comes out and says all stuff to media when he is been ignored, if true.

 

[Dan Ashcroft]

Harry ain't happy people. Just had my gaffer ranting. I seems that he is being ignored. Is this te same old same old? Harry names targets and the board say cheers Harry, then shop elsewhere. Something is a miss here. We've still got a great squad of players but Harry is making it clear to some that they are welcome to stay when it seems the board want shot. Is this the hold up that the journo was alluding to?

I'd expect another "it's gonna be tough to finish 6th" speech anytime soon

Just a comment, certainly not a judgement, but your info is for a very good reason significantly pro-Redknapp.

The other side of what you've just said might be: "God he's still on about Joe Cole and Craig Bellamy. We've got to sign players better than that. And I don't care how 'triffic lads Keane and Bentley are, we've got to get them off the wage bill".

 

[Paolo10]

Levy is not wrong here, we have spent a hell of a lot of money over the last few windows, it has just for the most part been wasted on average squad players who we are now failing to shift. I am one of Harry's biggest supporters on here in terms of his achievements, but his record in the transfer window as highlighted in the thread in spurs chat suggests to me that he should not be given autonomy over transfers.

Where's that thread? I'm sure I'd love to get stuck into that as it sounds well wrong.

 

[WestBelfast Spurs]

Or you could just get the WD40 out for the rusty guns :wink:

Never had rusty guns in our house lol :rofl:

any why WD40 is useless you need 4 in 1 oil

I have a feeling DL will pull another VDV esk signing out of the bag before the window shuts

 

[talkshowhost86]

Just a comment, certainly not a judgement, but your info is for a very good reason significantly pro-Redknapp.

The other side of what you've just said might be: "God he's still on about Joe Cole and Craig Bellamy. We've got to sign players better than that. And I don't care how 'triffic lads Keane and Bentley are, we've got to get them off the wage bill".

Just a comment, certainly not a judgment, but everything you post on SC is significantly anti-Redknapp and has been since he became our manager.

 

[thfc1989]

Where's that thread? I'm sure I'd love to get stuck into that as it sounds well wrong.

The thread itself doesn't suggest the autonomy bit, that was my knee jerk reaction speaking. However, we have none the less spunked away a of money on players we simply did not need or who were not suitable for our long term plan

 

[Paolo10]

The avatar didn't give it away? Hi Dan.

 

[Paolo10]

The thread itself doesn't suggest the autonomy bit, that was my knee jerk reaction speaking. However, we have none the less spunked away a of money on players we simply did not need or who were not suitable for our long term plan

Simply did not need? Do post in that thread. I feel like a good argument/debate today.

 

[Viper]

Harry ain't happy people. Just had my gaffer ranting. I seems that he is being ignored. Is this te same old same old? Harry names targets and the board say cheers Harry, then shop elsewhere. Something is a miss here. We've still got a great squad of players but Harry is making it clear to some that they are welcome to stay when it seems the board want shot. Is this the hold up that the journo was alluding to?

I'd expect another "it's gonna be tough to finish 6th" speech anytime soon

Can't blame Levy, he probably took one look at Harry's shopping list containing Neville, Parker and Shane Long and instantly binned it!

 

[kdspur]

Levy is not wrong here, we have spent a hell of a lot of money over the last few windows, it has just for the most part been wasted on average squad players who we are now failing to shift. I am one of Harry's biggest supporters on here in terms of his achievements, but his record in the transfer window as highlighted in the thread in spurs chat suggests to me that he should not be given autonomy over transfers.

so when harry joined the club when we were bottom of table u expected him to sign world class players. he got players to get us out of mess and who did and can still do good job. wilson was amazing signing but in all honesty anyone who knows their stuff wud take diarra over wilson everytime. if we can get top class striker u wud take that over crouch or defoe or keane. only thing i have gripes with harry is the whole bringing back robbie keane. should never have been done but i feel their is something to that transfer that meets the eye. and im irish lad too but i never rated keane to be top notch and not even close. other than that harry has been top top notch and best manager imo since bill nick..he knows whats needed to make team better he should be let do it instead of that spurs board

 

[Dan Ashcroft]

Just a comment, certainly not a judgment, but everything you post on SC is significantly anti-Redknapp and has been since he became our manager.

:grin: Proudly so.

 

[ryantegan]

Just a comment, certainly not a judgement, but your info is for a very good reason significantly pro-Redknapp.

The other side of what you've just said might be: "God he's still on about Joe Cole and Craig Bellamy. We've got to sign players better than that. And I don't care how 'triffic lads Keane and Bentley are, we've got to get them off the wage bill".

U might just be right, except the only name that keeps cropping up my end is beppe Rossi.

 

[clasess]

Name me some strikers who play for clubs outside the top 6 who would be actual significant improvements on our strikers?

People will say Doyle, who just like Crouch is a striker who doesn't score goals, others will say Klasnic who can't even get into a Blackburn team looking to play football.

Keane, Pav, Crouch and Defoe are all good strikers, and finding improvments who are worth the money they will cost is far from trivial. Couple that with this being the last summer agents can get silly wages for their players due to the ffp rules coming in, it is hardly surprising we have not signed a big name thus far.

:clap:

 

[thfc1989]

so when harry joined the club when we were bottom of table u expected him to sign world class players. he got players to get us out of mess and who did and can still do good job. wilson was amazing signing but in all honesty anyone who knows their stuff wud take diarra over wilson everytime. if we can get top class striker u wud take that over crouch or defoe or keane. only thing i have gripes with harry is the whole bringing back robbie keane. should never have been done but i feel their is something to that transfer that meets the eye. and im irish lad too but i never rated keane to be top notch and not even close. other than that harry has been top top notch and best manager imo since bill nick..he knows whats needed to make team better he should be let do it instead of that spurs board

This is the last comment I will make on this as it is not the thread for it. I agree whole heatedly that Harry has been our best manager in god knows how long, but I question his abilities to identify potential signings above and beyond "premier league experienced triffc lads". The ideal scenario would be Harry with a DOF, but that would never happen.

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

Can't blame Levy, he probably took one look at Harry's shopping list containing Neville, Parker and Shane Long and instantly binned it!

Exactly. I'm with Levy all the way on this one.

Harry wanted J.Cole, Levy got VDV.

Nuff said.

 

[talkshowhost86]

Mud-slinging aside I do worry about the relationship between Harry and Levy. What Harry says in the press doesn't always seem to mirror what Levy has said is his vision for the club and you wonder why that dichotomy (what a word! Probably incorrectly used/spelt) is there.

There is still a nagging part of me that thinks Levy doesn't think Harry is our long term manager, whether that be for footballing or legal reasons, and I worry that is having a negative impact on our transfer window.

I think we still all need to hold fire until September 1st to see what happens but if what Ryan is saying is true then that is a bit/very worrying.

 

[ajspurs]

Not sure if it was said at the time of Peanut's info also but saw an article just now saying Bruce wants to take Kranjcar on loan, backs up what Peanut previously told us.

 

[Dan Ashcroft]

U might just be right, except the only name that keeps cropping up my end is beppe Rossi.

Maybe then Levy's not prepared to pay £35m for him when Redknapp's indecision last summer cost us getting him for half that?

Or maybe Levy doesn't want to pay that much for someone else who can't partner vdV and will need a new #9 to play alongside as well?

Just speculation of course. Personally I'd absolutely love Rossi.

 

[talkshowhost86]

Exactly. I'm with Levy all the way on this one.

Harry wanted J.Cole, Levy got VDV.

Nuff said.

If that's the case though shouldn't Levy be doing his job and getting rid of Harry rather than trying to be the manager himself?

That's a big IF by the way. I'm sure if Harry thought VdV was available then he'd have taken him ahead of Joe Cole so that comparison is massively simplistic.

 

[kdspur]

This is the last comment I will make on this as it is not the thread for it. I agree whole heatedly that Harry has been our best manager in god knows how long, but I question his abilities to identify potential signings above and beyond "premier league experienced triffc lads". The ideal scenario would be Harry with a DOF, but that would never happen.

u wud question rossi.. harry said long enough that players he wants cost 140k a week and spurs cant afford it. he is frustarted just like you and me. its up to levy to get players harrys wants in and make statament to him and players. it been obvvious to me for a long long time that levy is a bit of shit and that we wud not be signing players till last few days of window. i think this sell before we buy nonsense is just more of it , i dont think anyone wants our players and if they do they will wait as long as possible and take them off our hands at last minute for less a transfer fee as possible. i have no doubt harry will bring in a center back and centre midfielder but longer it goes without striker signing i expect none to come. the only one i can see is adebayor when and if real madrid dont want him.