The Daily ITK Discussion Thread - 15th July 2016

[cookiemonster]

Keep Mason

Sell the 2 lightweights and the pizza delivery fellow

Room for 2 more signings

 

[Eric_s]

Keep Mason

Sell the 2 lightweights and the pizza delivery fellow

Room for 2 more signings

You shouldnt be drunking so heavily this early in the day.

 

[Deleted member 27995]

WILCO

Cryptic?!

Wilco - Wilco Johnson - Dr Feelgood - Southend - so we're signing someone from Southend?!

Joke.

Good news so far on KG Nkoudou. Would it be safe to say this is the last in, in this transfer window? Compared to previous transfer windows this is a pleasent change of pace, hopefully more to come like this.

Efficient.

 

[Greenspur]

Cryptic?!

Wilco - Wilco Johnson - Dr Feelgood - Southend - so we're signing someone from Southend?!

Joke.

Good news so far on KG Nkoudou. Would it be safe to say this is the last in, in this transfer window? Compared to previous transfer windows this is a pleasent change of pace, hopefully more to come like this.

Efficient.

Not the last. One more seems to be the feeling - though maybe not until later in the window, when there have been a few outgoing so.

 

[tiger666]

Keep Mason

Sell the 2 lightweights and the pizza delivery fellow

Room for 2 more signings

I don't know why you come on this forum. All you ever do is post shitty comments about our players.

 

[eddiev14]

I don't know why you come on this forum. All you ever do is post shitty comments about our players.

Papa John, Dominoes, Pizza Hut, Tops, Firezza, Basilico...

That's a lot of pizza right there. Still no clues as to who he means though!

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

Eh?

This is not the case. Injury record is clearly a huge factor. I like Sturridge for example but...

Then there's someone like Wanyama who's proven he can play to top six standard at epl tempo. Versus an eighteen year old Serbian who hasn't.

Levy seems to have a similar attitude to risk as you. He won't put 30m down on one player, who would significantly improve the first eleven, when he could buy two prospects for the same money. I say save the money we want to spend on this Marseille bloke, and put it towards buying a 30m player next summer.

You're not getting where I'm coming from. The best way I can explain it is, we paid (or could've paid) £26mil for Soldado, whilst Harry Kane cost us the square route of fuck all (apart from the obvious wages etc).

Based on your stance, Soldado should've been the success, whilst Kane should've been a failure. Also based upon your stance, Darren Bent should've been more successful than Berbatov, as he cost us upwards of £6mil more than Berbatov did. Same with £16mil David Bentley, who was totally upstaged by £1mil Aaron Lennon.

United spent some £30mil on Veron, yet £18mil Carrick has been the success there.

Is that more clear? Spending big money does NOT equate to a likelihood of the player being more successful than a cheaper alternative.

 

[Dr Know]

You're not getting where I'm coming from. The best way I can explain it is, we paid (or could've paid) £26mil for Soldado, whilst Harry Kane cost us the square route of fuck all (apart from the obvious wages etc).

Based on your stance, Soldado should've been the success, whilst Kane should've been a failure. Also based upon your stance, Darren Bent should've been more successful than Berbatov, as he cost us upwards of £6mil more than Berbatov did. Same with £16mil David Bentley, who was totally upstaged by £1mil Aaron Lennon.

United spent some £30mil on Veron, yet £18mil Carrick has been the success there.

Is that more clear? Spending big money does NOT equate to a likelihood of the player being more successful than a cheaper alternative.

Could you just go over that again please....you lost me there

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

Could you just go over that again please....you lost me there

Really? Not the thread for me to go over it again. It simply says that spending big doesn't necessarily mean the player is more likely to be a success than a different player who cost considerably less.

 

[Dr Know]

Really? Not the thread for me to go over it again. It simply says that spending big doesn't necessarily mean the player is more likely to be a success than a different player who cost considerably less.

No....just a humor failure

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

No....just a humor failure

I thought it was a joke, but didn't want to press 'funny' in case I was wrong & you took offence.

 

[neilp]

I thought it was a joke, but didn't want to press 'funny' in case I was wrong & you took offence.

Get a room you two for fucks sake.

 

[Nocando]

Fyi I know Mason's aunty.

 

[Grey Fox]

Fyi I know Mason's aunty.

No you don't , you know his auntie

 

[Grey Fox]

Cryptic?!

Wilco - Wilco Johnson - Dr Feelgood - Southend - so we're signing someone from Southend?!

Joke.

Good news so far on KG Nkoudou. Would it be safe to say this is the last in, in this transfer window? Compared to previous transfer windows this is a pleasent change of pace, hopefully more to come like this.

Efficient.

Nah, I reckon he is a World War 2 pilot

 

[ardiles]

Fyi I know Mason's aunty.

Is her name Nigel Spinal by any chance?

 

[SargeantMeatCurtains]

Fyi I know Mason's aunty.

Is she the reason for the shit tattoo on his arm?

 

[djw1973]

I don't know what's worse, mentioning Harry Hotspur, or actually putting it in the ITK thread.

Post deleted

 

[Insomnia]

I for one hope @Nigel Spinal is bang on the money with Mason. I really rate him & think if he gets a proper pre season in him he will be a valuable asset to us. Plus he's one of our own x

 

[cliff jones]

You're not getting where I'm coming from. The best way I can explain it is, we paid (or could've paid) £26mil for Soldado, whilst Harry Kane cost us the square route of fuck all (apart from the obvious wages etc).

Based on your stance, Soldado should've been the success, whilst Kane should've been a failure. Also based upon your stance, Darren Bent should've been more successful than Berbatov, as he cost us upwards of £6mil more than Berbatov did. Same with £16mil David Bentley, who was totally upstaged by £1mil Aaron Lennon.

United spent some £30mil on Veron, yet £18mil Carrick has been the success there.

Is that more clear? Spending big money does NOT equate to a likelihood of the player being more successful than a cheaper alternative.

I was responding to your original one liner which was totally incorrect. I reminded you there are varying degrees of risk, and types of risk.

You've simply picked up on the size of transfer fee, which is but one aspect.

In buying Soldado, the Club failed to see he was unsuited to a lone striker role in the prem, lacking physicality as he does. Also, under avb, possession pushed the opposition back, there was no space in behind and we had no one supplying those sharp near post crosses he thrived on in Spain. Looking at the big picture, the risks were not properly evaluated.

The Club needs to do better than throw ten mill each summer at a random, young french African wide men. These signings feel like a punt, throw enough darts at the board and one might stick. our squad is stacked with am s and I'd rather we abandon this type of signing and instead focus on buying more established quality. Of course every decision represents some kind of risk but to bring you back to where we started all risks need to be properly evaluated. Not just the fee.