The Daily ITK Discussion Thread 16th May 2019

[Hercules]

No way Bale - at 29, one of the worlds leading players with years left on his contract - is going for “free” anywhere

He is stuck then where he is at. Nobody in this day and age is going to sign him, and pay him the ridiculous wages he is on. The difference with Ronaldo and Juve, you will find his commercial ties etc, lightened the load on wages etc, which became very attractive to Juve. Just like if Messi was available.

 

[fletch82]

Loved him at Spurs but I fail to see how signing Bale would take us to the next level. Expensive, aging and extremely injury prone. These are the type of signings we should be avoiding. Sentimentality is not a reason why we should be buying players.

Injury prone you say
Maybe we should get rid of kane and dele as well as their injury records are nearly identical over the last 2 years ?

 

[Johnny J]

He is stuck then where he is at. Nobody in this day and age is going to sign him, and pay him the ridiculous wages he is on. The difference with Ronaldo and Juve, you will find his commercial ties etc, lightened the load on wages etc, which became very attractive to Juve. Just like if Messi was available.

I'm choosing to believe that Messi is now an option.

I really don't think Bale is happening unless Madrid take a huge bath on him.

 

[McArchibald]

He is stuck then where he is at. Nobody in this day and age is going to sign him, and pay him the ridiculous wages he is on. The difference with Ronaldo and Juve, you will find his commercial ties etc, lightened the load on wages etc, which became very attractive to Juve. Just like if Messi was available.

Real's treatment of Bale is going to get uglier by the day. They need him to move, he won't take a paycut and no other club will take him on at his current wages. He'll be tarred and feathered and burned in effigy before long...

 

[Ron Burgundy]

In Cornwall, we call that a birthday party

That's because you're fannies in Cornwall - you should come to Devon (where I'm from) if you want a real birthday party

 

[fletch82]

That's because you're fannies in Cornwall - you should come to Devon (where I'm from) if you want a real birthday party

But..but.. I quite like fannies

 

[ComfortablyNumb]

I'm choosing to believe that Messi is now an option.

I really don't think Bale is happening unless Madrid take a huge bath on him.

They're taking a bath on him now - £600k per week for an invisible player!

 

[Trix]

No way Bale - at 29, one of the worlds leading players with years left on his contract - is going for “free” anywhere

Whatever the outcome is, it's going to cost Madrid obscene amounts of money to move him out. I just don't see where he could go unless it ends up being a swap + cash deal with them paying the vast majority of his wages. That in itself limits the number of suitors he could end up going to.

I wouldn't be ruling out a swap plus cash deal for Neymar personally, as I don't see anyone else making the financials work.

Bale, Sanchez and Ozil should be lessons to every club that throwing money at players can often come back to bite you quite sharply on the arse.

 

[doctor stefan Freud]

Whatever the outcome is, it's going to cost Madrid obscene amounts of money to move him out. I just don't see where he could go unless it ends up being a swap + cash deal with them paying the vast majority of his wages. That in itself limits the number of suitors he could end up going to.

I wouldn't be ruling out a swap plus cash deal for Neymar personally, as I don't see anyone else making the financials work.

Bale, Sanchez and Ozil should be lessons to every club that throwing money at players can often come back to bite you quite sharply on the arse.

Which is why it would be lunatic, and yet possible, that he’d end up at Utd

 

[Nine while nine]

They also have an interest in Eriksen. I wonder if a weird swap is on the table?

A Christian Bale swap?

That would be bats, man.

 

[Col_M]

Whatever the outcome is, it's going to cost Madrid obscene amounts of money to move him out. I just don't see where he could go unless it ends up being a swap + cash deal with them paying the vast majority of his wages. That in itself limits the number of suitors he could end up going to.

I wouldn't be ruling out a swap plus cash deal for Neymar personally, as I don't see anyone else making the financials work.

Bale, Sanchez and Ozil should be lessons to every club that throwing money at players can often come back to bite you quite sharply on the arse.

Meh. Always some Rich suckers who are trying to impress and buy the latest shines thing. It’s all about the Now rather than the Then.

 

[Lilbaz]

Whatever the outcome is, it's going to cost Madrid obscene amounts of money to move him out. I just don't see where he could go unless it ends up being a swap + cash deal with them paying the vast majority of his wages. That in itself limits the number of suitors he could end up going to.

I wouldn't be ruling out a swap plus cash deal for Neymar personally, as I don't see anyone else making the financials work.

Bale, Sanchez and Ozil should be lessons to every club that throwing money at players can often come back to bite you quite sharply on the arse.

The other option is pogba. Zidane wants him but perez prefers eriksen.

 

[Trix]

Which is why it would be lunatic, and yet possible, that he’d end up at Utd

Talk in the agent world is that they are looking to stay away from deals like this, and instead are looking for younger hungrier players due to Sanchez and pogba. Well se I guess.

 

[absolute bobbins]

He is stuck then where he is at. Nobody in this day and age is going to sign him, and pay him the ridiculous wages he is on. The difference with Ronaldo and Juve, you will find his commercial ties etc, lightened the load on wages etc, which became very attractive to Juve. Just like if Messi was available.

Ronaldo shifted over 500,000 Juve shirts in the first 24 hours after his signing was announced.

 

[Ron Burgundy]

Ronaldo shifted over 500,000 Juve shirts in the first 24 hours after his signing was announced.

OK - so what margin do they make on every shirt, €20? So that's €10m. But they're paying him €600k a week, and they paid a shed load for someone they won't get the fee back on.

So in reality, they're going to need to make a lot of sponsorship money elsewhere

 

[BigPlimpton]

Talk in the agent world is that they are looking to stay away from deals like this, and instead are looking for younger hungrier players due to Sanchez and pogba. Well se I guess.

There's a tension that has been building for some time between perceived 'elite' managers who are hired to win titles immediately, who demand that in-prime stars are purchased because those managers don't know if they'll even be around long enough to coach young up-and-comers, on the one hand, and on the other hand Clubs that are either at least partially publicly listed or publicly owned (MUFC, Bayern, Real Madrid, FC Barcelona), and therefore somewhat responsible to the public for diminution of value in massive, stupid investments that are being made in individual players. Clubs like Citeh, PSG and the Chavs have been able to avoid any such issues through, essentially, money laundering 'business' profits from the middle east and Russia. But the publicly-owned or listed clubs have realized that the rapid depreciation they can sustain from buying in-prime players at exorbitant values cannot be justified as a business measure or as an accounting measure.

Ed Woodward and the Glazers thought that advertisers would feed them so much Pogba-related revenue that they could never lose on the Pogba and Sanchez deals. And maybe that's been true from a pure revenue perspective, but how do you account for the long-term depreciation of the MUFC brand from the humiliation of developing a reputation as the graveyard of in-prime international talent.

 

[Japhet]

I think the ban stick will be getting a good polishing right about now.

 

[Gbspurs]

Do Real still owe us any money for Bale? Might help balance the books

 

[arunspurs]

The irony of Bale situation is , RM used all sorts of underhand PR tactics to get him from us and now same club is trying so hard to alienate him from their fans using same media. With Zidane firmly against him I don’t think he will have much options left. Let’s see how this plays out.

We got to ignore Bale for time being & focus on strengthening where need to . If opportunity presents for Bale, of course we have to pursue some bargain deal...

 

[Hercules]

THIS IS A THREAD FOR ‘ITK’!!!

ARE PEOPLE THAT DUMB?...