The Daily ITK Discussion Thread - 19th July

Discussion in 'The January 2017 Transfer Rumour archive' started by Archibald&Crooks, Jul 19, 2017.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. thebenjamin

    thebenjamin Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    4,115
    Ratings Received:
    +11,143 / 440 / -121
    But it's not about different jobs. It's getting less money to do the same thing.

    For say Danny Rose -- a 5 year deal at Spurs gets him roughly £16M. After tax let's say he's taking home £9M. Is that enough to look after him and his wife, children, parents, brothers and sisters, wife's family etc for the 50 or so years after he finishes playing, after which he has no idea if he'll earn any more money? Probably, yeah, if he's smart with it.

    But if he moved to Man Utd to do the exact same job for a bigger club in front of bigger crowds with more chances to win tropihes, that number would double to £32M.

    Sure, he likes Spurs a lot. But he looks round and sees players doing a worse job than him, but earning millions more.

    Why on earth would he not push to leave for Man Utd?
     
    • Agree Agree x 5
  2. Hoopspur

    Hoopspur Sometimes I wonder why I bother

    Messages:
    4,102
    Ratings Received:
    +5,406 / 156 / -76
    But we're doomed!

    Actually I predicted previously that there would be casualties. That's our method. Like it or not we will carry on selling players, which will in turn help us on our upward curve. Yep I appreciate that other teams are trying to do the same thing but they're not us and nor do they have our manager (or chairman) at the moment. Mind you I still think it's very fluid and the whole outlook could well change within the next couple of years.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  3. thelak

    thelak Active Member

    Messages:
    554
    Ratings Received:
    +1,188 / 27 / -14

    Agreed. At some point it will become a motivating factor for our players putting in that extra 5-10% on the training ground when they don't feel they are being properly valued which as Chelsea showed when they downed tools can be fatal and for a squad more reliant on the team and running through walls for Poch even moreso

    My gut feeling is Levy will get us to the new stadium, hold onto as much of the squad as possible and sell when our value is at it's peak and let new owners come in and stump up he wages he doesn't feel are warranted...or he might surprise us and start paying out the additional commercial revenue from the stadium to the players

    What he knows is if he wants to fill the new stadium he will need to keep the core of this team intact
     
  4. spurslenny

    spurslenny I hate football

    Messages:
    6,923
    Ratings Received:
    +2,860 / 108 / -53
    Yes exactly, why aren't we.

    If we can but don't, and end up losing players as a result, that's for me is negligence.
     
    • Agree Agree x 2
    • Winner Winner x 2
  5. gavspur

    gavspur Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    2,758
    Ratings Received:
    +1,402 / 15 / -35
    Just a quick note.

    A lot of actors have a long career, often getting better roles when they're older. Footballers don't get that opportunity, unless they have played for Liverpool, Man Utd, or Arsenal, then they get to be TV presenters.
     
    • Like Like x 1
    • Dislike Dislike x 1
    • Winner Winner x 1
  6. Brian

    Brian New Member

    Messages:
    17
    Ratings Received:
    +2 / 1 / -1
    apparently we are not allowed to talk about that any more
     
    • Spam Spam x 1
  7. lukadownthelane

    lukadownthelane Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,839
    Ratings Received:
    +2,551 / 127 / -63
    This crazy market is the market. There's no getting away from it. Prices aren't going to go down unless FIFA change the rules on transfers. This is just the increased TV money going to players and agents, and the clubs trying to claw some of it for themselves.

    I don't like it, but realistically if ENIC can't compete in this market then perhaps they shouldn't be in it. I am thankful for all the progress we have made on and off the field, but I want to witness some success as a fan and ST holder, and by success I mean major trophies.
     
    • Like Like x 2
  8. doctor stefan Freud

    doctor stefan Freud Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    3,081
    Ratings Received:
    +9,998 / 128 / -79
    Testicles in the frying pan stuff tonight.
    We have about 6 weeks left before the window shuts. At minimum we need another RB and AM. If we are true kings of net spend, that's at least a 65 million budget. Should be at least two very promising players.
     
    • Funny Funny x 1
    • Optimistic Optimistic x 1
  9. Spurs' Pipe Dreams

    Spurs' Pipe Dreams Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    4,371
    Ratings Received:
    +5,911 / 111 / -20
    Totally agreed, atm though things are good, like really really good, best in my lifetime good but people are still losing their shit......I just don't get it. Maybe it's me who doesn't get it? I'm just really happy with the manager, squad and club currently, it's weird and feels wrong but things are good :eek::)
     
    • Like Like x 2
    • Agree Agree x 2
    • Winner Winner x 1
  10. Sandros Shiny Head

    Sandros Shiny Head Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,953
    Ratings Received:
    +3,490 / 185 / -38
    The sweeping statement of 'if we don't win anything, players will want to leave' is a bit stupid really. If you want to make our team better to the point that trophies are a formality then we'd have to bring in some really top top players for a crazy money that will push the original players out of the team.
    Let's go out and buy a world class LB, that'll stop Rose from wanting to look elswhere won't it. It's all about money and the environment/manager, winning things is just a by-product
     
  11. dovahkiin

    dovahkiin Top notch swords!

    Messages:
    1,639
    Ratings Received:
    +40,327 / 76 / -29
    only new itk ive seen tonight is hertyid saying we wont buy a lb and that verts will play there if necessarily. i didnt even know lb was a topic
     
    • Funny Funny x 16
    • Informative Informative x 4
    • Agree Agree x 3
    • Friendly Friendly x 1
  12. Roynie

    Roynie Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    2,384
    Ratings Received:
    +2,614 / 54 / -25
    Have a 'Creative' .. just 'cause!
     
  13. mill

    mill Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    6,298
    Ratings Received:
    +8,052 / 237 / -154
    Seems he's shit hot at expiring contracts and buy out clauses but kinda lost at genuine negotiations
     
  14. homer hotspur

    homer hotspur Active Member

    Messages:
    453
    Ratings Received:
    +585 / 29 / -26
    makes no sense at all - same as last season, Rose , Davies and Verts if really necessary. Why is lb even worth mentioning?
     
  15. hughy

    hughy I'm SUPER cereal.

    Messages:
    20,508
    Ratings Received:
    +19,468 / 347 / -169
    Hope Danny hasn't had a set-back.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  16. mill

    mill Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    6,298
    Ratings Received:
    +8,052 / 237 / -154
    I think it's inevitable we'll lose at least one of the first team each summer over the next few seasons, my only worry is multiple players pushing for a move in one summer
     
  17. THOWIG

    THOWIG Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    5,515
    Ratings Received:
    +4,085 / 179 / -27
    Obviously not ideal, but it's part of a transfer strategy of buying and selling at a higher price at least until the new stadium is up.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  18. mill

    mill Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    6,298
    Ratings Received:
    +8,052 / 237 / -154
    Even once it's built imo
     
  19. THOWIG

    THOWIG Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    5,515
    Ratings Received:
    +4,085 / 179 / -27
    Yeah I mean it's worked for Monaco, but not ideal long term.
     
  20. Hoopspur

    Hoopspur Sometimes I wonder why I bother

    Messages:
    4,102
    Ratings Received:
    +5,406 / 156 / -76
    I think with careful targeting we will replace them. Wash my mouth out but if 2 or 3 of 'our stars' left all at once then hopefully it would be done in a planned manner, without a wobbly being thrown. If this is indeed the agreed plan then hopefully pieces should be put in place? I don't know as I'm not prive to the forward planning.
     
    • Like Like x 1
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page