The Daily ITK Discussion Thread 19th July

[JR1994]

I don't necessarily disagree with the overall point that it isn't realistic to assume we're going to do top business in just a few weeks. However, I do feel that one has to a lot of things into consideration.

You say that the likes of Liverpool, United and City are "splashing the cash", but that's because they can afford to. For a start they haven't been investing huge amounts in a new stadium. Then there's the simple fact of the window not only being short but also the World Cup but also it being harder to sign top talent, especially if players were at the tournament. The clubs you mentioned, in order to get new players in, are paying out on ridiculously over inflated deals. Look how much Liverpool just wedged out for a keeper FFS! About £70m I think it is! For this reason alone I think the forthcoming winter window will be busier than usual for a lot of clubs who can't afford to splash silly money.

I would like to see some key signings, but people need to remember who Levy is. He is not going to change overnight. As it is he has take, what for him, is a bold step this window in breaking the wage structure (and likely not just for Kane but players like Eriksen as well and the manager). While huge amounts of money are being spent on the stadium, that in of itself is unusual. So is it any wonder he otherwise is defaulting to his usual tactic of out before in and the cheapest deal possible? This is still Levy after all. If he hasn't changed in 17 years he's not likely to start now. So with that AND the difficulties of this window mentioned above, it really baffles me that just because Poch made a statement about being brave it means a big money signing or two will walk in two weeks after the end of the season. I'm sure Poch isn't stupid and knows the difficulties this window presents. And do you know what? It's all very well for Poch to talk of being brave, but he's signed a new contract since then, he knows the stadium is a huge undertaking and he knows part of his remit is to develop potential talent rather than buying ready made stars for over the top prices.

So I personally I don't see the latest ITK as Levy's failure. I see it, frankly, as the most likely way this window was going to play out and had we heard anything else I would have been surprised.

Hope that kills. Watch them dangle some more hope with a contract announcement tomorrow.. Bastards #spursy

 

[Hercules]

Monday-Wednesday next week I expect to hear announcements (Praying hands)

 

[bomberH]

Monday-Wednesday next week I expect to hear announcements (Praying hands)

?
Altogether now

Sunday Monday, happy days
Tuesday Wednesday, happy days
Thursday Friday, meltdown

 

[ToDarrenIsToDo]

Anyone think that we gave certain teams a deadline on when to give us an answer regarding players (Man U reg Martial) so they didn't drag us along in order to pursue other targets? Something tells me that we possibly ran the risk of missing out on targets and that Man U were either well over valuing him or had no intention of selling to a rival, possibly leaving us weaker at the end of the window by stringing us along.

I wouldn't put it past serial winner Jose to give himself all advantages possible leading into a season. He wants to win by hook or by crook

 

[Yid-ol]

?
Altogether now

Sunday Monday, happy days
Tuesday Wednesday, happy days
Thursday Friday, meltdown

The weekend comes, A&C hums
Ready to ban the lot of you!

 

[SFCS]

Not really surprised that we need to be careful with our money. I'd imagine we've already put a significant outlay into Poch, Kane, Sanchez, Alli and Eriksen's contracts(plus any others I forgot). If we sign before we sell then clubs will be able to knock down our prices just as we'd do to other clubs in a similar situation. Disappointing we haven't seen at least a couple of players move on at this stage though.

 

[YiddoInPoland]

Just when i thought i was out they.....nah i am still out.

Shame about Martial but we will see what we do in the next 3 weeks, Levy does know the window closed in 3 weeks right?

 

[doctor stefan Freud]

Monday-Wednesday next week I expect to hear announcements (Praying hands)

Thanks for the updates, Herc

 

[doctor stefan Freud]

The weekend comes, A&C hums
Ready to ban the lot of you!

Someone’s been waiting a long time for this moment

 

[Woodyy]

I think we are leaving it too late again, I know we have to operate like this but I have a feeling this is the season we really pay for it.

I know Grealish might be close but does he even get on the bench when everyone is fit? I doubt it.

 

[Hugh DeMann]

HY said it was done, think Herc said it was one of the signings he said we did in Jan and he has visited the ground undercover and the training ground
must have been quite close

Visits to the training ground would show serious intent I agree. For some reason I thought Hercs or others had always said that Martial was interested but would be very difficult to get over the line because of United board (Not Mourinho) not wanting to be seen to pass on a future star. My ITK consumption is sporadic though so could be very wrong...

 

[tony0379]

Wait so Martial isn't happening even though he visited our new ground? I hope we've sent him the stadium tour invoice.

And to return the scarf back to Levy

 

[BringBack_leGin]

Monday-Wednesday next week I expect to hear announcements (Praying hands)

Right everybody, we are definitely signing someone and announcing it by next Wednesday and it will be the centre back/ central midfielder/ wide forward/ Kane back up we desperately need to propel us from mid table mediocrity to World Cup winners! If it doesn’t happen it’s all hercs fault for telling Levy to penny pinch and hoard away all the season ticket revenue for himself because he doesn’t want us to compete at the top.

Oh, and levy’s a bald penny pinching dwarf ****.

(Thanks for the update Herc )

 

[Now it's Spursonal]

Surprised by the plural 'announcements', unless its contract extensions?

 

[am_yisrael_chai]

@Rob @Archibald&Crooks why aren’t @rebrab and @Breezer getting the ITK colour for their posts ? Apologies if previously discussed and I missed it.

 

[werty]

Shame about Martial. He's been the only player we've been heavily linked so far that excited me.

 

[synththfc]

Surprised by the plural 'announcements', unless its contract extensions?

more likely outgoings

 

[ohwhenthespurs]

I don't necessarily disagree with the overall point that it isn't realistic to assume we're going to do top business in just a few weeks. However, I do feel that one has to take a lot of things into consideration.

You say that the likes of Liverpool, United and City are "splashing the cash", but that's because they can afford to. For a start they haven't been investing huge amounts in a new stadium. Then there's the simple fact of the window not only being short but also the World Cup but also it being harder to sign top talent, especially if players were at the tournament. The clubs you mentioned, in order to get new players in, are paying out on ridiculously over inflated deals. Look how much Liverpool just wedged out for a keeper FFS! About £70m I think it is! For this reason alone I think the forthcoming winter window will be busier than usual for a lot of clubs who can't afford to splash silly money.

I would like to see some key signings, but people need to remember who Levy is. He is not going to change overnight. As it is he has taken, what for him, is a bold step this window in breaking the wage structure (and likely not just for Kane but players like Eriksen as well and the manager). While huge amounts of money are being spent on the stadium, that in of itself is unusual. So is it any wonder he otherwise is defaulting to his usual tactic of out before in and the cheapest deal possible? This is still Levy after all. If he hasn't changed in 17 years he's not likely to start now. So with that AND the difficulties of this window mentioned above, it really baffles me that just because Poch made a statement about being brave it means a big money signing or two will walk in two weeks after the end of the season. I'm sure Poch isn't stupid and knows the difficulties this window presents. And do you know what? It's all very well for Poch to talk of being brave, but he's signed a new contract since then, he knows the stadium is a huge undertaking and he knows part of his remit is to develop potential talent rather than buying ready made stars for over the top prices.

So I personally I don't see the latest ITK as Levy's failure. I see it, frankly, as the most likely way this window was going to play out and had we heard anything else I would have been surprised.

All fair points but the implication from Poch and the ITK info was that this summer was shit or get off the pot time. Title challenge or bye bye. We're not going to bridge the gap to City and arguably keep pace with Liverpool and United without Levy changing his policy. The initial ITK was of 150 million spend plus money generated from sales, that's obviously not going to happen. Yeah Poch has signed a new contract and yeah he buys into our prudent financial model but I don't think for a minute he wouldn't jump ship next summer if we've just finished fourth and won nothing.

 

[daveduvet]

ITK rollercoaster in full effect.. down about no martial. Excited still to see what happens next week....

 

[Deleted member 29446]

Did he?

Yup. HY said Martial was done. But Herc wouldn’t be so brave.

Well that’s no marquee signing like we wanted. Disappointed but not really surprised. We are Spurs after all with that little bald headed man!