The Daily ITK Discussion Thread - 1st September 2015 DEADLINE DAY!

[Stoof]

You don't think we're short up front? I haven't seen much of Clinton but Son isn't really a striker.

It's not ideal. Let's just see eh?

 

[EnfieldYiddo]

So, does Poch make an embarrassing U-turn and bring Ade back into the fold?

I, unlike most on here don't detest him and would welcome that.

We're paying him 100k a week for a reason, aren't we?

Rather see him up top away in the arsehole end of Europe than an actual PL first teamer.

 

[King of the Lane]

I'm starting to feel like a total ban of twitter will be better for us on this site. I sound like @Archibald&Crooks

I'm not blaming any of the ITK's as I am always grateful for their info but twitter leads to opinions that just get everyone too excited and more often then not they don't come off. So many people jump the gun on twitter and post things that make us feel like a deal is done and it's just simply not the case.

Maybe that is partly our fault too for being soppy mugs who believe everything they read haha

 

[walton]

Apparently Adebayor's contract may be ripped up meaning he'll be a free agent. Knowing us, Levy will move to snap him up, claiming he's secured a proven PL striker on the cheap.

 

[Sandro30]

This is not good. Needed to stand up and be counted.

 

[AW?]

Can't we just get him on loan now anyway?

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

A decent window overall. Kept our best players, added much needed pace to our attack and strengthened the defence. Disappointing that we didn't sign a defensive mid or back up striker but I would rather sign no one at all than sign substandard back ups or pay massively over the odds for average players.

With regards to the striker issue both Son and Njie are strikers who have pace so have been pushed out wide so we do have options to rotate with Kane.

 

[kdem]

I'm having more fun reading all the whinging in here than I had reading all the conjecture and hope over the last few days. The amount of people losing it right now is astounding. You'd think we didn't sign anyone or get rid of any deadwood!

We have the same core squad as we did last year. We improved on that and brought in some much-needed depth at left back. Just because you didn't get every shiny new toy you wanted doesn't mean we're going to end up in 10th.

And, FFS, those people saying Levy needs to leave before we slide down the table should probably look at where we were BEFORE Levy came in.

Only reason we can attract talent like Lloris, Eriksen, and Son is because of the level Levy has brought us to.

We've had the same situation going on every summer transfer deadline day for as long as I can remember. This is nothing new. And yet people still act surprised when we won't do a United and pay 3-4x what a player is worth.

Wanyama and Berahino will have one year left next summer. Southampton and WBA can get fucked with their 30M valuations, we could probably seal up both for 25.

Finally, for the record, we ALL were excited at the prospect of Pochettino giving our youth time. Now that our youth actually have a chance to show us what they're capable of everyone is upset we didn't bring players in from outside the club?

 

[zzz]

Just want to say a massive thank you to all the ITK's passing on their info. Regardless of if stuff worked out in our favour, it has given myself a great insight into the world of football you don't often see.

You guys are the best.

 

[Harry Barber]

I have it on good authority, that lessons have been learnt today and we'll be better prepared in January.

 

[Dare]

Are we still able to process loan deals?

 

[Living Legend Colm G]

It's not a good day for us, but before we go to hard into Levy just remember who he is and what he's done to our club.

Remember where we were before he took over (in 11 years, we only finished 3 times in the top half of the table). He did an amazing job here and he's a great chairman. He has his flaws but he's done us a world of good.

"Whilst I get extremely frustrated with his reluctance to get players in early on which seriously damages our chances of top 4 every year, he and ENIC have undoubtedly been good for the club on the whole. Consistently established in the top 6 and in a couple of years will have one of the best stadiums in Europe to go along with a world class training ground and youth set up. It's just that extra push he frustrates us with unfortunately."

I text that to a mate last week and I still stand by it. Overall he has been good for the club, BUT, today he has badly let us down in my opinion. We have addressed key areas in defence potentially, we have bought wide men who will inject some much needed pace, and we have shifted a lot of dead wood. But to leave us with one (yes vidiprinter says 1) striker for a club of our stature is simply absurd. And just as importantly, to sell Capoue and Stambouli without replacing them with a top class DM (which we needed more than anything) is just criminal. This is a case of gross negligence by our chairman.

I've had my rant but will still state I would rather have Levy and his faults than not have him and his plusses. Onwards and upwards and let's just back our team until next time. #COYS

 

[Gbspurs]

In b4 Carlton Cole.

 

[GetSpurredOn]

Ok. Despite my frustration, I must add that I am very pleased with the other signings this summer, I feel we've a much better balance and depth in defence, plus some much needed genuine pace in the wide attacking areas.
Alderweireld is going to be a big plus as starter.
Wimmer gives us a natural LCB alternative to Vertonghen.
Trippier, I hope has the same effect that Davies signing did on Rose, and Walker has to up his game or risk being ousted.
Son and Njie will give us some game stretching dynamism, the like of which we've not had since Bale left. I firmly believe others will benefit from the space their pace creates.
Alli and Carroll will give us some added legs in midfield from where we were last year. Equally, Pritchard should offer some added incisiveness. Talented young English players, so I'm a for them succeeding.

That really does compound the inability to add a CF, because we just came that damn close.

Right now, I'd hope the club are reviewing their stance on Adebayor, maybe his inability to garner enough interest secure a transfer, could be that he decides to turn up for the rest of this half of the season, to put himself in the shop window for next January/next Summer. A motivated Ade, looking to play for his next big contract, historically delivers. Is now the time to make him earn he right to restore himself into the squad. Assuming we won't fulfil our full 25 man squad, and since he's not re-registering from another club, I'd assume we can register him at any point (once he's shown he's worth it). After all, we're paying him a lot of money, may as well make use of him, since we've no other options left. Alternatively, the scouts need to be assessing the list of free agents out there, such as Berbatov, and get someone in on a short term deal. Whoever it may be, Ade or a free agent, just someone to play Europa games/Cup games maybe, to lighten the load on Kane. That would take the sting out of a crap end to the window.

 

[glospur]

I think the signings that we have made this window are absolute quality, and I can see them all contributing across the short and long term. In terms of who we've bought in and cleared out it's been a good window.

In saying that, only one recognised striker - I'm sure Son and Clinton could play there, but they're not exactly number 9's - in the squad is incredibly disappointing.

Unlike some others, I'm not at all concerned at all with the midfield situation. It's effectively the same midfield that took us to 5th last season, but with Alli in place of Paulinho, Dier in place of Capoue and the addition of Carroll: all upgrades in my opinion. Dier has been fantastic to start the season and really fills the void in that defensive midfield area.

 

[thebenjamin]

Bound to be an article on the OS this week bigging up a time HMS played up front on his own back in Korea and scored a hat trick.

 

[carpee]

We have it every year apparently, but never use it.

Yep it was more an ironic / sarcastic post than serious

 

[scat1620]

You can have an opinion. That doesn't mean it is right, or can't be countered. Why do people constantly confuse these two things. You can say whatever the fuck you like, but ultimately someone else with a more-informed opinion can you shoot you down - and surely you believe that the football professionals know more than you? Don't you? Do you genuinely think you know better? Really?

I don't think they do in all scenarios, like mystical omniscient beings. They're human too. Certainly in general your point probably holds true, but loads of people were calling out how stupid the Fazio and Stambouli signings were this time last year, and lo and behold they have been discarded (one sold, and one not considered for the first team squad) within a year. They knew better than the football pros in that instance, because if the football pros had foreknowledge of what would happen to Fazio/Stambouli this summer then they wouldn't have bought them last summer. By your logic the Oakland A's should never have used the sabremetrics system that brought them so much success because it was introduced to them by people who weren't at all baseball pros.

Sometimes you just have to call a fuck-up a fuck-up, no matter how wise/learned/respected the person who made it is.

 

[tdk101]

We didn't even get Frazier Campbell type loan... I am not sure if it is good or bad

 

[Gb160]

In addition to Lloris leaving next summer, I would assume Kane will want to as well after playing likely 40-50 games throughout the season if he is lucky to stay healthy. The goodwill he has toward Spurs can quickly change when put in a situation like that. Really, they are jeopardizing his career. Why would any promising 21 year old want to be run into the ground?

If they both leave, have to think Eriksen and Vertonghen are probably not far behind.

Yep...that is definitely what will happen, however you've missed the bit where levy urinates all over the fans from a helicopter swooping round the Lane.
get a fucking grip man.