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The Daily ITK Discussion Thread - 21 June 2011

Mr Pink

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I agree with BC on this. Adebayor, or someone, similar would interract better with VDV and be perfect for taking advantage of Bale and Lennon's crossing.
Rossi is a very talented player, so I don't think I would actually object to him signing, but the issue I would have is that Adebayor (or similar) would be more suited to playing in a 4-5-1 with VDV, but Rossi isn't going to come to sit on the bench.
I have seen some fanciful formations that put VDV on the right in a 1-1-2-3-4-5--6-6-6--7-7 or whatever the fook it is, and that might work. But it seems a bit odd, to me, that most folk are agreed that bringing in VDV was great last season, but it did mean altering our system into one our current crop of strikers couldn't take advantage of - so, in such a pivotal season, why get a striker that can take advantage of the 4-5-1 with VDV, only to experiment again. They also look very narrow - strange how some posters can advocate this, while stating that Liverpool's main problem has been lack of width.



Free the Rossi-Fap-Fap-Fap One:whistle:

Adebayor would be my first choice to. I think its the most logical and from the point of view of risk, well I think its minimal to say the least.

By the way does anyone have an idea as to what the probablility of Adebayor staying at City would be?
 

Bus-Conductor

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Busier than you though......

Remind me what happens when one team scores more than the other?

It means they 'loose' yeah?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bret_Hart

Bret Sergeant Hart (born July 2, 1957) is a Canadian on-screen personality, writer, actor and retired professional and amateur wrestler. Like others in the Hart wrestling family, Hart has an amateur wrestling background, including wrestling at Ernest Manning High School and Mount Royal College. Along with his famed "Hit Man" nickname, Hart's agile, technical style earned him the moniker, "The Excellence of Execution". He was also known as "The Pink and Black Attack", in reference to his ring attire, as well as his signature mirrored sunglasses, which he would routinely give away to a young audience member before matches.

Hoisted on my petard. It's a fair cop.
I thought we were talking about BrettSpurs.
 

Bus-Conductor

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Come on folks any suggestion Henderson is better than huddlestone is ridiculous. He'd win in a race that's about it. HUD has ran games for a top team. And done it In Europe on occasion. Even at un21 level he actually contributed.

Hudd hasn't run too many games that I can remember, but no-one has suggested that Henderson's better. Not even me. And nor is Rodwell.
 

Bus-Conductor

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We were. I shouldn't have mentioned Bret Hart, he was banned from SC years ago during the Rivaldo saga.

Now your just trying to cover up your penchant for the homo-erotic past time of wrestling.

He was also known as "The Pink and Black Attack"

I bet he was...
 

kishman

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Fatty, is that you ?

hudd.jpg

But in seriousness, he's lost alot of weight. Pretty sure he's got a six pack now. :)
 

Mr Pink

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Just re-reading POTL's last ITK...seems to me the clue could also be in the 'protecting the finances of the Club, negotiating etc...I know you could apply that to any player but in this instance;

Could be reading too much into it...but could that be from the point of view of assessing risk with Adebayor in his probable high wages and attempting to to find a compromise.

The long and winding yellow brick road..a long way to go? but obviously being the long and winding blue and yellow road..being City :shrug:
 

kdspur

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anything in those rumours today on talk sport of some tursih side in fro jenas for 5 million? boring night i know when we talk of this guy but hey more money in and dead wood out all helps
 

kishman

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anything in those rumours today on talk sport of some tursih side in fro jenas for 5 million? boring night i know when we talk of this guy but hey more money in and dead wood out all helps

Yeah I saw that on Newsnow. It seems there has been some foreign interest in Jenas. But I'd say he's worth at least 7 million.
 

steventhfc

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My word, a striker that can actually get behind the last defender. We've not had one of them since Keane in 07/08.




Rossi = Defoe + intelligence + movement + pace + finishing.






Why get rid of vdV? All 3 can easily be accomodated, just like Liverpool do with Carroll (Adebayor), Suarez (Rossi) and Gerrard (vdV):

---Sandro---Modric

Rossi-----vdV-----Bale

------Adebayor




It's got to be both Adebayor and Rossi if at all possible. A genuine top calibre partnership in the tradition of Berbatov-Keane, Sheringham-Klinsmann, Archibald-Crooks, Greaves-Gilzean etc.

Top post, consider yourself repped.
 

faulks

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Doesn't Jenas speak Portuguese? I recall in an interview with Sandro, he said he asks Jenas to translate for him sometimes. Fun fact I guess...
 

OpenHeartZoo

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I agree with BC on this. Adebayor, or someone, similar would interract better with VDV and be perfect for taking advantage of Bale and Lennon's crossing.
Rossi is a very talented player, so I don't think I would actually object to him signing, but the issue I would have is that Adebayor (or similar) would be more suited to playing in a 4-5-1 with VDV, but Rossi isn't going to come to sit on the bench.
I have seen some fanciful formations that put VDV on the right in a 1-1-2-3-4-5--6-6-6--7-7 or whatever the fook it is, and that might work. But it seems a bit odd, to me, that most folk are agreed that bringing in VDV was great last season, but it did mean altering our system into one our current crop of strikers couldn't take advantage of - so, in such a pivotal season, why get a striker that can take advantage of the 4-5-1 with VDV, only to experiment again. They also look very narrow - strange how some posters can advocate this, while stating that Liverpool's main problem has been lack of width.



Free the Rossi-Fap-Fap-Fap One:whistle:

The 4-3-3 formation is only narrow if you don't have incredible options coming from fullback, which we do. The wide forwards in a 4-3-3 should be looking to attack the edge of the box, rather than hugging the touchline, creating space outside for a pacey fullback to run into, and several targets in and around the box to attack crosses from said fullback, rather than just Crouchy on his tod. It's a formation that allows you to put immense pressure on teams that sit back. If you have three intelligent and classy players holding onto the ball in front of their back 4, continually moving and looking to pick holes, always with that option of the overlapping fullback on either side, you basically have the best of both. I don't really buy all this crap about playing with two flying wingers being amazing football. The best passing/possession teams play 4-3-3 or a variation of, and have done for some time.

In my eyes you want your technical/creative players in that front three, preferably playing off someone who can hold up the ball a bit. Players who can receive the ball in uncomfortable situations, buy themselves a bit of space, and make something happen. From what i've seen so far this isn't Bales main strength. I'm not saying he couldn't do a job on the right of a front three, he's certainly a great finisher, but for me he should be tear-arsing it down that left touchline from deep.

---Rossi-Adebayor-VdV---
--Modric-Sandro-Parker--
Bale-King-Dawson-Walker

Something like this would be the absolute sex. The defensive solidarity you lose from having attacking fullbacks you make up for by having a pretty solid midfield three, and the fact you can outnumber the opposition in the middle of the park, and keep hold of the ball in their half better with the likes of Modric, VdV, Rossi blah blah. Ah, I don't know why i'm bothering with all this, i'm pretty sure we'll be playing 4-4-2 with Bale left wing and Rafa off a centre forward next season. Still fine with me as long as the centre forward is incredible.
 

kdspur

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what i think harry is trying to do and rightly so is try n sign players to play in different formations. i hate been predictable or even seen it.. every week last season i could predict spurs team and if i can do it im sure professional managers cud and whilst every team will always have a nucleus of regulars its always good to keep opposition guessing on formation and personnel. we dont have enough of that at spurs so the signing of people like a parker, rossi and the like is good move. add to that plenty of games in eufa we have to mix it up
 

Wellspurs

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Long and Winding Road= Beatles= Lennon
Yellow Brick Road = Elton john

Yellow Submarine= Beatles
Guess that's Why They Call it the Blues= Elton.

The answer is there somwhere?
 
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