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The Daily ITK Discussion Thread - 22 August 2011

JJetset

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Yeah didn't Harry say that we could have had Rossi for around £18m last year but he couldn't make up his fucking mind because he believed the 4 clowns we had were good enough!

Harry wasnt the one that scuppered the Rossi deal it was Daniel.
You are mistakenly thinking about Suarez in January when Harry was after a target hold up man and didnt believe Suarez was the right player.
 

wpd659

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Had a conversation earlyier with my ITK and diarra to be anounced tommorow..... Adebayor by end of week :) ....
Problems with Diarra deal was all RM end and how to pay him his compensation for wages as he is going to be on about 65k p/w with us. Should be anmouced tomoz.
And tbh the reason he was given the adebayor deal hasnt been done yet was due to man city dragging there feet and wanting assurances after paying over half his wages for this season that we will sign him for 10mill at end of this season. Talks still ongoin but will be done by end of week! Sorry for the late update been at work all day then watched the game........
 

Pedro

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Jan 4, 2005
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dont care what anyone says on here about diarra. he is fucking quality player, gets stuck right in and not afraid to but boot in either. thats exactly what we need and more of it. too many fancy dans at spurs without any balls and backbone. he offers us that in spades and for whatever he lacks wel will make up with vdvd and modric and bale ... wud be fantastic signing.

Not disputing Diarra as a top quality player, just wondered if he had that 'character' and possibly leadership qualities that Harry was referring to when saying the type of player he wanted. I've always thought of him as a classy player, good to hear about the grit side of things - we need that!
 

jackson

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Jan 27, 2006
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Had a conversation earlyier with my ITK and diarra to be anounced tommorow..... Adebayor by end of week :) ....
Problems with Diarra deal was all RM end and how to pay him his compensation for wages as he is going to be on about 65k p/w with us. Should be anmouced tomoz.
And tbh the reason he was given the adebayor deal hasnt been done yet was due to man city dragging there feet and wanting assurances after paying over half his wages for this season that we will sign him for 10mill at end of this season. Talks still ongoin but will be done by end of week! Sorry for the late update been at work all day then watched the game........

Cheers mate, hopefully both of these come through - sounds like they would be two very good deals for players we desperately need!
 

sunnydelight786

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Do you actually believe that Sunny?

Why do you not think that it could be that the coaching team and the scouts have nominated top strikers and all the big names some before they had great seasons and the chairman wont do the right deals to get them?
Tbh I just don't know what to believe anymore. We have manager who is constantly moaning to the media we don't pay the wages top players want, we have a chairman who wants to trim the squad down before we buy but is asking for top dollar for the deadwood (if ITK is to be believed), we have a specialist forward coaches who have actually made our strikers regress and then you got mugs like me who spend thousands of pounds following the team I/we love all over Europe/England and we don't even get appreciated at the end by most of them. That's modern day football for you.....

Imho it seems that the strikers the management have been asking for have been unrealistic hence there was every chance of us not getting them e.g. Rossi THIS summer, Forlan last summer (he was already on £100k+ at AM), Fabiano last summer (he was mentioning getting paid on a par to Drogba & Rooney last summer in the media), etc.... We have to look at strikers below that level who got the potential to get to that top tier.....
 

JJetset

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Tbh I just don't know what to believe anymore. We have manager who is constantly moaning to the media we don't pay the wages top players want, we have a chairman who wants to trim the squad down before we buy but is asking for top dollar for the deadwood (if ITK is to be believed), we have a specialist forward coaches who have actually made our strikers regress and then you got mugs like me who spend thousands of pounds following the team I/we love all over Europe/England and we don't even get appreciated at the end by most of them. That's modern day football for you.....

Imho it seems that the strikers the management have been asking for have been unrealistic hence there was every chance of us not getting them e.g. Rossi THIS summer, Forlan last summer (he was already on £100k+ at AM), Fabiano last summer (he was mentioning getting paid on a par to Drogba & Rooney last summer in the media), etc.... We have to look at strikers below that level who got the potential to get to that top tier.....

The forwards with potential you mention that are just below the top level the clubs still want 20-25 million Euros.Take Leandro for example. So at some point you have to take the plunge into the 30 mill + players and pay the top wages or you have to go below into the 20-25mill and take a gamble(albeit not a massive one)that they dont perform as you like and dont go on to be stars.
The trouble with buying the 'to be' stars is that when they shine we sell them like Berbatov.
Last summer we had deals in place for Cavani, Suarez and Rossi before they had stellar seasons but Daniel didnt want to pay the 20- 25 mill to get them.
So we make a lot of noise but dont actually do things in the transfer market.
All the top potential players are identified and we get really close then every deal falls over eventually due to money.
It depends on how you look at football and running a business to whether you think that is sustainable for the future or not?
 

ealingspur

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Hopefuly it will soon :) mods saying they are verifying my source's. Hopefuly will be soon :)

Live the dream, homie.

But really, I think that as long it comes from someone that is itk, it should be in the RO, to stop fools from saying "any new itk". Usually, the mods respond with "check the RO" but half of it doesnt make the RO (whether merited or not).
 

mike_l

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Hopefuly it will soon :) mods saying they are verifying my source's. Hopefuly will be soon :)

Anybody know what they do to verify a source, unless some PI shenanigens are afoot surely it is just a case of reading his story and deciding whether it seems legit or not, how can that take so long? Or are you waiting to see if the info comes to fruition first to lend credence to his story?
 

beats1

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Feb 22, 2010
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Had a conversation earlyier with my ITK and diarra to be anounced tommorow..... Adebayor by end of week :) ....
Problems with Diarra deal was all RM end and how to pay him his compensation for wages as he is going to be on about 65k p/w with us. Should be anmouced tomoz.
And tbh the reason he was given the adebayor deal hasnt been done yet was due to man city dragging there feet and wanting assurances after paying over half his wages for this season that we will sign him for 10mill at end of this season. Talks still ongoin but will be done by end of week! Sorry for the late update been at work all day then watched the game........

TBH mate I can understand why, if we sign leandro in january I expect that option not be taken if we get another striker this window
 

Azrael

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May 23, 2004
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TBH mate I can understand why, if we sign leandro in january I expect that option not be taken if we get another striker this window
Disagree.

If we were all honest we can only mount a proper top four challenge with two new players up front so I don't think it's a given that if Leandro comes in it will mean the exit door for Adebayor.
 

What Lies Beneath

Expectation is the root of all heartache
Jul 29, 2011
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Diarra

Lass will be completed in the next day

3 year deal

65k a week

exspected to be selected for city
 
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