The Daily ITK Discussion Thread - 24th June 2017
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He is a good player so yes would of, certainly not at the top, from Monaco that would have been Bernardo Silva, I think he would be better than Mbbape for us and for me City made the best signing in the window with him.
I will get shouted down by but in terms of what we are missing in terms of pace/power I think Zaha would have been a very good signing, he caused Chelsea, Liverpool etc all sorts of problems in games last season and is Prem proven but he is gone as well.
I don't know, what's your list, there isnt many players that I like that we have any realistic chance with.
I will get shouted down by but in terms of what we are missing in terms of pace/power I think Zaha would have been a very good signing, he caused Chelsea, Liverpool etc all sorts of problems in games last season and is Prem proven but he is gone as well.
I don't know, what's your list, there isnt many players that I like that we have any realistic chance with.
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RB (only if Walker goes) - Ricardo Pereira - There was ITK, think it was JJ who confirmed we were looking at Pereira.
RCB - Joel Veltman or Matthias Ginter - Initially Veltman was confirmed as on the watch list, but JJ dismissed the media story about Ginter.
LCB (only if Wimmer goes) - Alfie Mawson - BBQ ITK about Mawson, would imagine we'd have to sell Wimmer first, and he's tweeted about looking forward to pre season training, so doesn't appear imminent.
LB - Ryan Sessegnon - Plenty of previous ITK about Sessegnon and us being in the box seat, albeit gone quiet of late.
AM - Ross Barkley - Plenty of initial ITK that Barkley was the one Poch wants, but again gone quiet. I wonder if the need here is linked to Lamela's future.
WF/CF - Keite Balde or Mariano Diaz - Not so much ITK on Balde or Mariano, probably more media talk I suppose, but Zaha was the type of forward we are in need of, pace & power.
These are the areas I think we need to address, varying degrees of urgency, plus a list of those linked both in the media, and also ITK. Would be happy with that list personally, would give us better balance.
All of those listed, are gettable from their clubs, either through contracts running down, release fees, or just known to be available.
At this point I do wish we'd show more urgency. Liverpool, City and Utd are the teams in behind us, and they're making moves. What's the saying, "There is no such thing as standing still; you either move forward or regress." I understand we are on a specific business model, but in order to take the next step, I think we need a leap of faith, get transfers done so Poch can run a full pre-season.
RCB - Joel Veltman or Matthias Ginter - Initially Veltman was confirmed as on the watch list, but JJ dismissed the media story about Ginter.
LCB (only if Wimmer goes) - Alfie Mawson - BBQ ITK about Mawson, would imagine we'd have to sell Wimmer first, and he's tweeted about looking forward to pre season training, so doesn't appear imminent.
LB - Ryan Sessegnon - Plenty of previous ITK about Sessegnon and us being in the box seat, albeit gone quiet of late.
AM - Ross Barkley - Plenty of initial ITK that Barkley was the one Poch wants, but again gone quiet. I wonder if the need here is linked to Lamela's future.
WF/CF - Keite Balde or Mariano Diaz - Not so much ITK on Balde or Mariano, probably more media talk I suppose, but Zaha was the type of forward we are in need of, pace & power.
These are the areas I think we need to address, varying degrees of urgency, plus a list of those linked both in the media, and also ITK. Would be happy with that list personally, would give us better balance.
All of those listed, are gettable from their clubs, either through contracts running down, release fees, or just known to be available.
At this point I do wish we'd show more urgency. Liverpool, City and Utd are the teams in behind us, and they're making moves. What's the saying, "There is no such thing as standing still; you either move forward or regress." I understand we are on a specific business model, but in order to take the next step, I think we need a leap of faith, get transfers done so Poch can run a full pre-season.
It's not just down to that though, Pochettino's coaching, ethos and the culture he's instilled within the Club is worth far more than any individual signing and ultimately it's his affect that has seen us elevate to the next level.
We keep him and we'll continue to progress and compete at the top end of the league.
In fact if I was one of our competitors I'd be worried about Pochettino getting better with more experience.
I'm totally relaxed about what we're doing and not concerned regarding others at all.
People get their knickers in a knot far too quickly.
We keep Pochettino and the rest looks after itself as far I'm concerned.
We keep him and we'll continue to progress and compete at the top end of the league.
In fact if I was one of our competitors I'd be worried about Pochettino getting better with more experience.
I'm totally relaxed about what we're doing and not concerned regarding others at all.
People get their knickers in a knot far too quickly.
We keep Pochettino and the rest looks after itself as far I'm concerned.
Whilst I agree with the general sentiment of all the people reminding us that JJ's hint that Lemar will go to Arsenal doesn't mean that the sky is about to collapse, I equally wouldn't completely gloss over it and maintain that everything is sunshine, lollipops and rainbows either.
For all the talk of "just trust Poch and everything will be fine" we've pretty much had it confirmed by JJ and Trix that we've been after Zaha and Lemar as two of our top targets this window, and now they're both looking like they're no longer on the cards. I presume we were targeting them for a reason, and therefore we will now be looking at alternatives who wouldn't have been our preferences if our first choices were available. No, not the end of the world, but yes a bit of a blow.
Don't forget that last summer missing out on our first choice target of attacking midfielder meant that we signed Sissoko instead, so just like we shouldn't get too worked up, let's not get too blasé either...
For all the talk of "just trust Poch and everything will be fine" we've pretty much had it confirmed by JJ and Trix that we've been after Zaha and Lemar as two of our top targets this window, and now they're both looking like they're no longer on the cards. I presume we were targeting them for a reason, and therefore we will now be looking at alternatives who wouldn't have been our preferences if our first choices were available. No, not the end of the world, but yes a bit of a blow.
Don't forget that last summer missing out on our first choice target of attacking midfielder meant that we signed Sissoko instead, so just like we shouldn't get too worked up, let's not get too blasé either...
I don't have any issues with Mawson Nailsy, at £15 mill I'd be quite happy to see him come in. All I'm saying is that we have quite a few quality prospects on the cusp ourselves, it's not as if we're having to look elsewhere for talent because we have none available ourselves.
Having said that, we'd be foolish to pass up on any available talent that we can get hold of.
I suppose I'm making the point more because of the angst you get on here if we don't secure a prominent talent. We have more than a few of our own who are already starting to make names for themselves.
Having said that, we'd be foolish to pass up on any available talent that we can get hold of.
I suppose I'm making the point more because of the angst you get on here if we don't secure a prominent talent. We have more than a few of our own who are already starting to make names for themselves.
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I do agree that with Poch, the current squad and a couple of smart additions (and greater experience from last season) we will be very strong again, but there is always an element of risk with our strategy which can't be ignored IMHO. Certainly not with the Wembley situation (which is awful timing even if we adapt as quickly as we hope)...
Many of us, me included, seem to be of the opinion that Lemar was our biggest target, yet it would have cost us a club record for a bench player.
Maybe he just wasn't wanted as much by us as he was needed the goons.
Truth is we dont really know who our main targets are as the media rarely get it right. Perhaps our main targets are still out there and we dont know about them yet as its early days.
Maybe he just wasn't wanted as much by us as he was needed the goons.
Truth is we dont really know who our main targets are as the media rarely get it right. Perhaps our main targets are still out there and we dont know about them yet as its early days.
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It's a shame that yet again it boils down to wages regarding Lemar. He was a player that definitely would of suited our style of play and would of injected much needed pace and direct play. I honestly felt we had a real chance in getting him (champions league new stadium etc) but it seems it wasn't enough.
But I'm not too worried because it's still early days and I got a feeling we will be going for players that haven't even been linked yet. And I'm sure behind close doors things are brewing.
Poch has mentioned a few times how important it is to add to the squad especially for the forthcoming season.
Let's not jump to any conclusions because I got a feeling come start of the season we will be very satisfied with the squad we will have. We must remember the likes of Lamela (will feel like a new signing and I have no doubt will play an integral part next season), Winks (who I think will have a special season ahead of him) Rose to all come back. Our squad is looking so strong.
Add 2-3 more quality players that will improve the squad as a whole (especially on the bench) and we will be in a position to really make a statement on all fronts.
But I'm not too worried because it's still early days and I got a feeling we will be going for players that haven't even been linked yet. And I'm sure behind close doors things are brewing.
Poch has mentioned a few times how important it is to add to the squad especially for the forthcoming season.
Let's not jump to any conclusions because I got a feeling come start of the season we will be very satisfied with the squad we will have. We must remember the likes of Lamela (will feel like a new signing and I have no doubt will play an integral part next season), Winks (who I think will have a special season ahead of him) Rose to all come back. Our squad is looking so strong.
Add 2-3 more quality players that will improve the squad as a whole (especially on the bench) and we will be in a position to really make a statement on all fronts.
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