The Daily ITK Discussion Thread - 2nd August 2016

[Grapo2001]

Not sure why people think £5m is undervaluing him. He hasn't actually done anything of note in a first team game for us.

 

[Flynn]

Good buy for someone at that price.

Makes me wonder about his long term fitness.

 

[Ledleys Knee]

Not sure why people think £5m is undervaluing him. He hasn't actually done anything of note in a first team game for us.

He was championship player of the season the year before last, and Ibe just sold for £15m.

In that market he should be in the c.£12m bracket

 

[TEESSIDE1]

He was championship player of the season the year before last, and Ibe just sold for £15m.

In that market he should be in the c.£12m bracket

He's similar to O'Hara, very good at set pieces but slow and lacks aggression. He needs to be at a club who will wrap him up in cotton wool and worship him, a bit like Sigurdsson at Swansea. £5m is fair.

 

[danielneeds]

He's similar to O'Hara, very good at set pieces but slow and lacks aggression. He needs to be at a club who will wrap him up in cotton wool and worship him, a bit like Sigurdsson at Swansea. £5m is fair.

Seriously this quote makes me wonder if you've ever watched him at all. Nonsense.

 

[AndyReid_N17]

He's similar to O'Hara, very good at set pieces but slow and lacks aggression. He needs to be at a club who will wrap him up in cotton wool and worship him, a bit like Sigurdsson at Swansea. £5m is fair.

WALOB

 

[TEESSIDE1]

Seriously this quote makes me wonder if you've ever watched him at all. Nonsense.

In the championship yes... you know, at a lower standard.

 

[trasores]

Pritchard is really disappointing. wanted him to succeed but obviously Poch doesn't fancy him, maybe its a size thing?

Alex is small and our team (with the exception of Danny Rose) are quite tall.

 

[TEESSIDE1]

WALOB

If he was that good, why is he currently only linked with championship sides? Brighton and Newcastle. Secondly, I guess you think Poch and his coaching staff are clueless since they've deemed him surplus to requirements. Jog on.

 

[danielneeds]

In the championship yes... you know, at a lower standard.

I not really commenting of whether he should be sold or not, but the description of being like O'Hara, and being slow and lacking aggression is simply miles off. He was a very hardworking and tenacious component of a very decent Brentford side.

 

[Shadydan]

If he was that good, why is he currently only linked with championship sides? Brighton and Newcastle. Secondly, I guess you think Poch and his coaching staff are clueless since they've deemed him surplus to requirements. Jog on.

Think the problem is your description, it's as if you haven't watched him play, I don't think anyone would call him slow or lacking in aggression.

 

[Neon_Knight_]

Think the problem is your description, it's as if you haven't watched him play, I don't think anyone would call him slow or lacking in aggression.

TEESSIDE1 would

 

[Neon_Knight_]

In the championship yes... you know, at a lower standard.

He was one of the star players in the Championship and was very key in helping Brentford to a 5th place finish. He did for Brentford what Alli did for MK Dons, but in a higher division, so I don't think it was unreasonable for us to expect him to cut it in the Premier League.

How much Pritchard is worth is highly debatable, as is anyone's value these days. However, I can say with certainty that I've seen less proven and less talented players go for more than £5m.

 

[SpursAddict]

He was championship player of the season the year before last, and Ibe just sold for £15m.

In that market he should be in the c.£12m bracket

In my opinion, he is not currently worth £12m simply because last season, he rarely got a game with us, and also whilst on loan at West Brom, therefore, he could not make a contribution on the pitch.

If we were talking about how much he's worth at the beginning of the 2015/16 season, just after his loan spell at Brentford, maybe at that time he was worth the £12m, since he had just come back from an outstanding season in the championship, but due to his ineffective past season, I don't think he's currently worth £12m personally. To be honest if we get the reported £8m fee from Brighton, I think Levy deserves some praise.

 

[ryantegan]

Is Pritchard likely to be Champions League level?

There are still question marks as to whether he is premier league level. £5m today sounds like a fair fee. He may prove us wrong but that's the risks you take in football.

It's all about buying and selling

 

[arunspurs]

If he was that good, why is he currently only linked with championship sides? Brighton and Newcastle. Secondly, I guess you think Poch and his coaching staff are clueless since they've deemed him surplus to requirements. Jog on.

This is a absurd evaluation of Pritchard. Fact is Pritchard is yet to start a PL game. Fact is Pritchard played so well in 2014/15 that he was selected in Championship team of the season, helping Brentford to playoffs.
Add to this the injury record last year and almost nil minutes given by Pulis...Why would he linked with a PL team ?

But fact he isnt linked doesnt mean he is not PL quality. Far from it. Sometimes, players have to go down the league system & come into PL better to be recognised.

 

[TEESSIDE1]

This is a absurd evaluation of Pritchard. Fact is Pritchard is yet to start a PL game. Fact is Pritchard played so well in 2014/15 that he was selected in Championship team of the season, helping Brentford to playoffs.
Add to this the injury record last year and almost nil minutes given by Pulis...Why would he linked with a PL team ?

But fact he isnt linked doesnt mean he is not PL quality. Far from it. Sometimes, players have to go down the league system & come into PL better to be recognised.

How is it absurd? It's a fact that Brighton are hoping to sign him and a fact that Poch has said he's no future at the club. I'm siding with Poch's evaluation and not wishful thinking that he's worthy of the EPL, especially when his success has only come in the championship. Lots of players look like world beaters in the championship but it doesn't mean they can cut it in the EPL.

 

[danielneeds]

This is a absurd evaluation of Pritchard. Fact is Pritchard is yet to start a PL game. Fact is Pritchard played so well in 2014/15 that he was selected in Championship team of the season, helping Brentford to playoffs.
Add to this the injury record last year and almost nil minutes given by Pulis...Why would he linked with a PL team ?

But fact he isnt linked doesnt mean he is not PL quality. Far from it. Sometimes, players have to go down the league system & come into PL better to be recognised.

Spot on, I'm always amazed by the amount of people who watch football, but don't really see anything...

 

[danielneeds]

How is it absurd? It's a fact that Brighton are hoping to sign him and a fact that Poch has said he's no future at the club. I'm siding with Poch's evaluation and not wishful thinking that he's worthy of the EPL, especially when his success has only come in the championship. Lots of players look like world beaters in the championship but it doesn't mean they can cut it in the EPL.

Again, nobody is saying we are are definitely wrong in selling him, only the coaching team have the information to make an informed decision.

What he has said is absurd, is your assertion that just because he's going to a Championside side that means he's not good enough for the PL. The fact he's had injuries, little PL experience, and a relatively high fee, means it's a relatively high risk purchase, but Brighton could reap the benefits...

Only last summer Poch was saying this...

“Yes the main young group of younger players will stay with us,” he said. “We also have [Alex] Pritchard, who was injured during our pre-season. He is nearly ready to come back and start to train with us. It was a shame because we expect a lot from him but he was injured through all of pre-season."

I suspect much of the decision to let him go had to do with a lack of fortitude dealing with the disappointment of this season, injuries, the loan. As we've seen - Poch wants tough characters, ready for the fight, and my hunch is he probably didn't see this in Pritch.

 

[arunspurs]

How is it absurd? It's a fact that Brighton are hoping to sign him and a fact that Poch has said he's no future at the club. I'm siding with Poch's evaluation and not wishful thinking that he's worthy of the EPL, especially when his success has only come in the championship. Lots of players look like world beaters in the championship but it doesn't mean they can cut it in the EPL.

Poch could have taken the decision for n number of reasons...But you cant think thats because he isnt good enough for PL. Pritchard missed a year through injuries. When he was given the option to pick one from 4 clubs in Jan, he picked WBA ahead of Burnley or Middlesborough. It was his decision. Pochettino unlike last year, now has options of Alli, Onomah ahead of him and Edwards waiting in wings. Pochettino is ruthless; From what I see, he doesnt see a future for Pritch at Spurs mainly because there are others who have moved ahead of him. But that doesnt mean he is not rated.

And your final point...to fail you need to be given a opportunity. So, dont say he cant cut in PL, without seeing him play in PL.