The Daily ITK Discussion Thread - 3rd January

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

Modric reportedly on £180k
Bale " " on £350k

They're not coming back. As much as Real Madrid are apparently trying to palm them off on us.

 

['O Zio]

No he's not. 2nd maybe, but did you see Iniesta totally dominate him and the match two weeks ago? That was a true masterclass in midfield play that every player and manager should be forced to watch, though it wouldn't need much forcing it was such a delight to see.

But yes, I'd have Modric back because being 2nd best to Iniesta is about the highest praise a midfielder can get, and he's got at least a couple of years left in him, he'd be great alongside Wanyama, and Winks would learn a lot from him too.

But it won’t happen.

Modric may or may not be the best midfielder in the world, who knows, but it's harsh to base that just on the game the other day. Real Madrid were torn about due to idiotic tactics from Zidane so I don't think Modric being beaten is really any reflection on his quality. Nowadays Modric is a better player than Iniesta IMO, although they're not the same kind of player so it doesn't really matter anyway.

 

[tiger666]

Hercules has spoken in the Ross Barkley thread in case anyone has missed it.

 

[Led's Zeppelin]

Modric may or may not be the best midfielder in the world, who knows, but it's harsh to base that just on the game the other day. Real Madrid were torn about due to idiotic tactics from Zidane so I don't think Modric being beaten is really any reflection on his quality. Nowadays Modric is a better player than Iniesta IMO, although they're not the same kind of player so it doesn't really matter anyway.

I wasn’t basing my judgement on one game, just providing the latest bit of evidence, and having watched them both for years I have little doubt that Iniesta is the better midfielder.

But we won’t be buying either of them, which is the real point in terms of this thread.

 

[midoNdefoe]

Modric reportedly on £180k
Bale " " on £350k

Isn't that what Kane was reported to be collecting last year, once bonuses were activated...?

No wholly unrealistic then...

 

[tiger666]

Isn't that what Kane was reported to be collecting last year, once bonuses were activated...?

No wholly unrealistic then...

Bale is on 350k after tax.

 

[midoNdefoe]

Bale is on 350k after tax.

so could kane be if he declared himself a letterbox in hongkong or some other 'legal' evasion

 

['O Zio]

But we won’t be buying either of them, which is the real point in terms of this thread.

I think that we can all safely agree on

 

[BringBack_leGin]

Interesting ‘kind of’ info from Hercules. I personally think that, while it would be a shame to not eventually get Barkley, there’s probably very good reason why we wouldn’t.

So far from everything that’s been said this window I just don’t think we will sign anyone.

 

[Ron Burgundy]

Interesting ‘kind of’ info from Hercules. I personally think that, while it would be a shame to not eventually get Barkley, there’s probably very good reason why we wouldn’t.

So far from everything that’s been said this window I just don’t think we will sign anyone.

I think that's probably right, but I would be pretty gutted if that turns out to be the case

 

[LexingtonSpurs]

Isn't that what Kane was reported to be collecting last year, once bonuses were activated...?

No wholly unrealistic then...

Bale gets that per week. Big difference...

 

[BringBack_leGin]

I think that's probably right, but I would be pretty gutted if that turns out to be the case

Point 1 or point 2?

If the latter, I wouldn’t be, I actually think our squad can do what we need it to this season if used properly.

 

[Cravenspurs]

I may be naive, but a transfer doesn't mean the new team takes on the old contract does it? I am pretty sure that in European football that is not the case. In the NBA a traded players contract follows them, but I swear a transfer is just the fee to get the player released from their current contract and then the player goes into negotiations with the new club.

If my memory serves me correct, why do people think Bale = 350 a week? He does at RM, but if he were to come here he would know that we can't pay him that sum. Same goes for Modric. It's the upfront fee that we may need to worry about, but these contractual weekly payments are yet to be determined.

I very well could be wrong, but I believe this is the case. Let me know if I am wrong.

 

[Lilbaz]

I may be naive, but a transfer doesn't mean the new team takes on the old contract does it? I am pretty sure that in European football that is not the case. In the NBA a traded players contract follows them, but I swear a transfer is just the fee to get the player released from their current contract and then the player goes into negotiations with the new club.

If my memory serves me correct, why do people think Bale = 350 a week? He does at RM, but if he were to come here he would know that we can't pay him that sum. Same goes for Modric. It's the upfront fee that we may need to worry about, but these contractual weekly payments are yet to be determined.

I very well could be wrong, but I believe this is the case. Let me know if I am wrong.

Ok say bale is on £350k a week and has two years left on his contract. Why would he take a pay cut to join us when he could stay there for two more years and earn more?

 

[hughy]

I may be naive, but a transfer doesn't mean the new team takes on the old contract does it? I am pretty sure that in European football that is not the case. In the NBA a traded players contract follows them, but I swear a transfer is just the fee to get the player released from their current contract and then the player goes into negotiations with the new club.

If my memory serves me correct, why do people think Bale = 350 a week? He does at RM, but if he were to come here he would know that we can't pay him that sum. Same goes for Modric. It's the upfront fee that we may need to worry about, but these contractual weekly payments are yet to be determined.

I very well could be wrong, but I believe this is the case. Let me know if I am wrong.

I don't think we'll sign Bale, but I think people believe him having a 50% pay cut would be equivalent to any average Joe taking a 50% pay cut, where in reality losing that extra 150k will change his life very little.

People hold on to the wages card to much on here.

 

[Cravenspurs]

Ok say bale is on £350k a week and has two years left on his contract. Why would he take a pay cut to join us when he could stay there for two more years and earn more?

I get that logic. He could certainly hold out and just get his dollar dollar bills y'all. I for one wouldn't want my image to be tarnished by playing for a club that didn't want me / hated on by a fanbase that has never taken to me. Bale is financially stable and seems like a rather sensible person so I don't think it would be out of this world to come back and be on a pay as you play type of contract. Or he could just go to a Man U and get his pay. But my point is that contracts need to be negotiated and it isn't a direct transfer of the current contract.

 

[tiger666]

I don't think we'll sign Bale, but I think people believe him having a 50% pay cut would be equivalent to any average Joe taking a 50% pay cut, where in reality losing that extra 150k will change his life very little.

People hold on to the wages card to much on here.

Has there been any examples of a player taking a 50% wage cut just to return to a club he used to play for?

 

[Cornpattbuck]

Has there been any examples of a player taking a 50% wage cut just to return to a club he used to play for?

Rooney...

 

[tiger666]

Rooney...

A player not nearing retirement ..

 

[Lilbaz]

I get that logic. He could certainly hold out and just get his dollar dollar bills y'all. I for one wouldn't want my image to be tarnished by playing for a club that didn't want me / hated on by a fanbase that has never taken to me. Bale is financially stable and seems like a rather sensible person so I don't think it would be out of this world to come back and be on a pay as you play type of contract. Or he could just go to a Man U and get his pay. But my point is that contracts need to be negotiated and it isn't a direct transfer of the current contract.

It's happened in the past for us keane and ade being examples of where the club want rid they'll pay part of the wages if they move.