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Snarfalicious

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I think we will mange to get £10m for Adebayor. This is Levy we are talking about, and Adebayor will have reenergised potential suitors by showing his form over 2-3 months. We all know his flaws only too well, but to other clubs he is a great all round striker who is capable of dominating when the coordinates align. Don't know how Monaco's FFP situation is, but we all know they are loaded.

As much as I like 'good' Adebayor, he requires a certain type of manager to get him firing and is about to become extortionate in terms of wages.

I still think Soldado will come good under the right manager/tactics, and it will be interesting to see who we would chase to compete with him. I've said this a few times, but it is a LONG TIME since we applied our general acquisition tactics ( 18-22 year old exciting project with potential to increase value ) to a striker. Who was the last young European striker we signed, Postiga ? I'm interested to see us go after a Modric/Eriksen type of player of the striker type. Its time we made a purchase here i.e. a young exciting talent, to match how we go about business every else on the team.

Deadhorse is about to be beat, but Aleksandar Mitrovic and/or Michy Batshuayi would have me excited.

And I agree completely on Adebayor. Think we're looking at more like £6-8m, though.
 

The Scarecrow

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not sure that's correct; wiki might say Euros but am sure his transfer was before the currency became a hard currency, iirc it was £30m or thereabouts - the new (wiki) figure might be converted to what he'd have cost at today's exchange...


but I could be wrong. It is possible.

The price was 100 billion lira. Converted to 2014 GBP, that's £42m. The average GBP annual inflation since 2001 is 2,36%, and that translates to a 2001 transfer fee a couple million on the plus side of 30.
 

Twizzle

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If PSG want Lloris, I dont think we'll be able to say no as the tend to pay overs for just about everyone.

The thing is, what is overs for Lloris, he will be worth a fair bit.

Can't see Levy saying no to that.
 

EJWTartanSpur

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Deadhorse is about to be beat, but Aleksandar Mitrovic and/or Michy Batshuayi would have me excited.

And I agree completely on Adebayor. Think we're looking at more like £6-8m, though.

£6-8m is reasonable, I just saw someone say £5m and thought that was very low for a striker that is capable of the things Ade is capable of when he is in the mood, and given we are talking about Levy. Levy has his issues but he is a master of player sales mostly. I'll never forget him turning a profit on Mido, after all he'd done for us was eat pies and sit on the bench after we bought him permanently, or the £21m odd he got from Sunderland for giving them Tainio, Chimbonda and Malbranque. Those were things of beauty.

Mitrovic is exactly the one that was in my thoughts. Maybe Volland or Benzia
 

KILLA_SIN

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Not surprised at the Journo's info. If you were a player at Spurs at the moment, watching us lurch from disaster to disaster, you'd want out. We remind me of Villa under O'Neil when they had been pretty good, top 6 for a couple of seasons, and then it all went tits up and their best players wanted to abandon the sinking ship.


Proper feel like shit now
 

Barry Mead

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Maybe but replacing him with someone like sherwood was madness. A sackable offense really.

Lying to avb about selling bale followed by appointing sherwood really is amazingly bad judgement.


Well it would hardly be a first with Levy on a bad judgement call, however I think in fairness to Levy he would have preferred keeping Bale but Bale had decided he wanted out and when a player no longer wants to be around it's a tough enough call without another team offering £85 mill

Mid season is never a great time to get rid of a manager, I would have been happy if he made the decision on AVB in the summer when he would have had a better chance of getting a quality option in but he didn't. Bale was the main reason AVB's first season finished with us in a respectable place, without him he was always likely to struggle so the double whammy of keeping AVB and losing Bale was always likely to cause problems, then Sherwood was the third whammy.

Oh well onwards and upwards, maybe next season
 

EJWTartanSpur

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Proper feel like shit now


I wouldn't pay too much attention to that ! Villa were financing themselves with Lerner's personal money. When the push for top four became increasingly difficult, he abandoned ship in terms of finances and asset stripped that squad. Our turnover is far bigger, and we can self sustain ourselves fairly easily whilst maintaining squad quality. Yes we may have dips here and there, but with the way we are run off the field, I couldn't see us going the way of Villa. Whilst we are not the level of City, Chelsea or Utd financially, we are in a clear position of being stronger than anyone below 7th/8th at the very worst. The rest is just noise right now. None of this players unhappy/ out fully matters until we install a new manager and he has the chance to re-galvinize the players and impress them with his plans. If we get the appointment correct I could see all of our players being willing to stay, with the exception of maybe Verts.
 

Gedson100

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Just a thought:

Does the Leandro link go far enough back to have originated when Broomfield was here before?

o_O:wideyed:
 

EJWTartanSpur

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Yes.

Broomfield was at the club when Damaio was breaking through with Internacional, just after we bought Sandro.
 

thfcsteff

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I don't think rocket science is necessary to figure out who's disgruntled and who isn't. I think it'd be best to wait and see who the incoming is before getting worried about any of it. Most of the players (disgruntled ones too) are on longer contracts, thus we sell only if we want to. No player in pour squad currently could get away with what Barnett and Bale did last summer (I'd say even Lloris would have to wait one more season if told) so let's see. As for Sherwood upsetting some? Again, Ray Charles could see and name them from the grave, right?
 

LexingtonSpurs

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How come nobody every talks about the gruntled players?

But otherwise, I think this is all much ado about nothing until a new manager is in place.
 

cookiemonster

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How come nobody every talks about the gruntled players?

But otherwise, I think this is all much ado about nothing until a new manager is in place.

The grunted players are Dawson Bentaleb Kane Naughton Fatty

Why would anyone want to talk about them
 

indianspurs

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I hope we go for the Norwich lb Olsson. Think he'll be a decent back up lb with plenty of EPL experience,is young and wikipedia says he counts as homegrown .
 

spursfan77

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I think we will mange to get £10m for Adebayor. This is Levy we are talking about, and Adebayor will have reenergised potential suitors by showing his form over 2-3 months. We all know his flaws only too well, but to other clubs he is a great all round striker who is capable of dominating when the coordinates align. Don't know how Monaco's FFP situation is, but we all know they are loaded.

As much as I like 'good' Adebayor, he requires a certain type of manager to get him firing and is about to become extortionate in terms of wages.

I still think Soldado will come good under the right manager/tactics, and it will be interesting to see who we would chase to compete with him. I've said this a few times, but it is a LONG TIME since we applied our general acquisition tactics ( 18-22 year old exciting project with potential to increase value ) to a striker. Who was the last young European striker we signed, Postiga ? I'm interested to see us go after a Modric/Eriksen mould of a signing, of the striker variety. Its time we made a purchase here i.e. a young exciting talent, to match how we go about business every else on the team.

I agree with you on all of that except I would be massively surprised if we could get over £6 million for adebayor. Your valuation of him is probably a lot nearer Levy's!
 

carpediem991

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new bits from the Goat. So if Verts is willing to stay with FdB as coach he has to be the next appointment. Vertonghen and Eriksen to build a team around.

Shame about Lloris, but who can blame him?
 

not_tenth-again

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new bits from the Goat. So if Verts is willing to stay with FdB as coach he has to be the next appointment. Vertonghen and Eriksen to build a team around.

Shame about Lloris, but who can blame him?

That's it. FdB for manager. I think we will sneak one more year out of Lloris. he's an intelligent guy, he knows with the right philosophy and direction we are in the ball park.
 

Geyzer Soze

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Vis a vis this new info from the Goat. I am very sceptical. Coming from Nice he is not going to play for Monaco for anything, the rivalry is pretty big and bitter.

Did he not officially laugh off ever playing for Monaco quite clearly last year? A year ago he said ...

“What's happening in Monaco is good for Ligue 1 and for this great French club, because PSG need a challenger,” he told le10sport.

"But personally, I left to go abroad, to try and build something on a personal and sporting level and I don't intend to come back soon."

Lloris also suggested he would find it hard to move to Monaco after starting his professional career at neighbours Nice.

And then there is another thing - I am too much of a Nice man to go there!,” he said.
 

AX-Spur

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Wonder what Hugo would think of playing in front of an attendance of 9.000 people in the home games...

On a side note, I visited both Monaco and Nice a couple of weeks ago (ran my first ever half-marathon there), even watched Nice beat Reims (don´t think his brother played, though...). It would be a absolutely splendid place to live in though!
 

THOWIG

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Lloris has said he'd never sign for Monaco. Plus he has a contract and we need, for once, to stand firm.
 
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