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Khilari

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Jun 19, 2008
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The signings in 2015 pushed us up a level. The signing of Wanyama pushed us up a level last season. Let's not pretend the transfer window isn't hugely important for Poch.

He's not an actual magician, he needs the right additions to squad. Right now it's been by far the worst window since he became manager and he knows that we desperately need 2 or 3 quality additions to push on again. I think we will sign a couple of players but it's been a shambles so far.
I totally agree with your statement, except the bit in bold.
ITK suggests we are onto some targets.
I'd rather we waited to bring in quality targets at a fee we can afford than pay for someone who's average just to get them in earlier.
 

FreddieYid

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I'd rather we waited to bring in quality targets at a fee we can afford than pay for someone who's average just to get them in earlier.

You could flip that and say that we're more likely to end up with someone who's average if we can't secure our main targets and have to move further down our list.
 
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Joshua

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So, basically we've been patient in this window as we've been trying to secure our first choice targets, and according to JJ we've now failed to get two of them. We'll likely now end up with lads who are more of a risk but won't have had the chance at a full pre-season. Dress it up how you want but that to me is disappointing.
 

Trix

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I have no idea what has happened re Balde, or in fact that we were even after him to begin with. What I do know is deals this complex are often on then off then back on again.

Is that the case with this one? I don't know, but until he definitively moves somewhere else or says he is staying put, then all is not definitely lost.
 

HildoSpur

Likes Erik Lamela, deal with it.
Oct 1, 2005
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I have no idea what has happened re Balde, or in fact that we were even after him to begin with. What I do know is deals this complex are often on then off then back on again.

Is that the case with this one? I don't know, but until he definitively moves somewhere else or says he is staying put, then all is not definitely lost.

Great point although I think the suggestion was that he has signed for another club (probably Juve) sadly.
 

Archibald&Crooks

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Talksport quotes Poch as saying 'we are close' on signing/s.

I am just pulling that from their website. So defer to anyone who listened to his interview and felt he said 'we WERE close'
Please don't think i'm picking on you here because i'm not, a shitload of people have been doing this for quite a while now and it's your post that's the latest, that's all........anyway, the following occurs to me......

This is the ITK discussion thread. It's purpose is obvious. It's not the 'Poch said' discussion thread. It's not the "This website says" thread either.......What Poch says isn't ITK as we know it for the purposes of this thread. It's highly likely to be spin, he hardly likely to say 'Well, baldy fucked it up again', he's going to radiate positivity, its almost always going to be skewed and its nearly always going to be what Donna Cullen tells him to say.....

So while I can sort of understand people posting the comfort blanket 'Poch said' all the time, its literally worthless as any sort of ITK source, even to back up any info and one of those things that takes the thread off topic because very time it gets posted, someone will treat us all to their onions as to who he's talking about and before we know it, we got twenty pages of guesses, the same guesses, from the same people with slight tweaks depending on the latest fucking smiley JJ posted.

There seems to have been a shift in what is understood to be ITK and all sorts of stuff has been finding its way into this thread, stuff we never used to allow and i've a hunch that the massive rise in off topicness spammybastardness we're seeing is related to that as much as its related to the transfer lunacy that some people (a lot of people) in here suffer from.

Also, there's far too much "ITK" that isn't fit for the Read Only making it in here (and worse being treated as gospel). There's far too much ITK that IS for the Read Only, not making it in there (which is equally treated as gospel). I'm also not entirely sure that this thread is actually any good for the bipolars that seem to be banging on SC's gates in ever increasing numbers.

What am I trying to say?

I have literally no idea.
 

GioW

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Aug 22, 2011
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I have no idea what has happened re Balde, or in fact that we were even after him to begin with. What I do know is deals this complex are often on then off then back on again.

Is that the case with this one? I don't know, but until he definitively moves somewhere else or says he is staying put, then all is not definitely lost.

This. The same way we can't guarantee getting a signing over the line, I very much doubt we can say Balde and Pereira deals are both dead in the water. Things constantly changing surely?
 

Insomnia

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Jan 18, 2006
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Please don't think i'm picking on you here because i'm not, a shitload of people have been doing this for quite a while now and it's your post that's the latest, that's all........anyway, the following occurs to me......

This is the ITK discussion thread. It's purpose is obvious. It's not the 'Poch said' discussion thread. It's not the "This website says" thread either.......What Poch says isn't ITK as we know it for the purposes of this thread. It's highly likely to be spin, he hardly likely to say 'Well, baldy fucked it up again', he's going to radiate positivity, its almost always going to be skewed and its nearly always going to be what Donna Cullen tells him to say.....

So while I can sort of understand people posting the comfort blanket 'Poch said' all the time, its literally worthless as any sort of ITK source, even to back up any info and one of those things that takes the thread off topic because very time it gets posted, someone will treat us all to their onions as to who he's talking about and before we know it, we got twenty pages of guesses, the same guesses, from the same people with slight tweaks depending on the latest fucking smiley JJ posted.

There seems to have been a shift in what is understood to be ITK and all sorts of stuff has been finding its way into this thread, stuff we never used to allow and i've a hunch that the massive rise in off topicness spammybastardness we're seeing is related to that as much as its related to the transfer lunacy that some people (a lot of people) in here suffer from.

Also, there's far too much "ITK" that isn't fit for the Read Only making it in here (and worse being treated as gospel). There's far too much ITK that IS for the Read Only, not making it in there (which is equally treated as gospel). I'm also not entirely sure that this thread is actually any good for the bipolars that seem to be banging on SC's gates in ever increasing numbers.

What am I trying to say?

I have literally no idea.
You've got a hunch? No wonder you're humpy :cautious:
 

Bigjim6464

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Aug 9, 2017
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Storts in the Barkley thread on COYS re Chelsea's interest in Barkley:

They want Ox first and foremost but interest in barkley is real.
This should not be news. Barkley at 25M in this market would be very good business for anyone. Chelsea need to bring in players too so we should not be surprised that as the price for Barkley goes down, others may want to take advantage of a "good" deal.
 

agrdavidsfan

Ledley's Knee!
Aug 25, 2005
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This should not be news. Barkley at 25M in this market would be very good business for anyone. Chelsea need to bring in players too so we should not be surprised that as the price for Barkley goes down, others may want to take advantage of a "good" deal.

A few teams need to bump up the english quota also.
 

tony0379

The bald midget has to go!
May 17, 2004
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I swear Juve have stolen our transfer list! Is there a player we are after that they are not? Itll be Barkley next.... Damn them!
They have not to stolen it. They want a player they agree a price and sign them, they don't fuck about for 3 months squabbling over a couple of million.
 

SpartanSpur

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Jan 27, 2011
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I have no idea what has happened re Balde, or in fact that we were even after him to begin with. What I do know is deals this complex are often on then off then back on again.

Is that the case with this one? I don't know, but until he definitively moves somewhere else or says he is staying put, then all is not definitely lost.

I'm trying to think along these lines on Keita Balde but based on what @JJetset has been saying it seems Juventus have had a breakthrough, and that's where the player wants to go.

I'd love the Lazio chairman to be a prick about it and say he'll sell abroad, but even then the player could hold on and join Juve on a free next season...
 

spursfan77

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Aug 13, 2005
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Please don't think i'm picking on you here because i'm not, a shitload of people have been doing this for quite a while now and it's your post that's the latest, that's all........anyway, the following occurs to me......

This is the ITK discussion thread. It's purpose is obvious. It's not the 'Poch said' discussion thread. It's not the "This website says" thread either.......What Poch says isn't ITK as we know it for the purposes of this thread. It's highly likely to be spin, he hardly likely to say 'Well, baldy fucked it up again', he's going to radiate positivity, its almost always going to be skewed and its nearly always going to be what Donna Cullen tells him to say.....

So while I can sort of understand people posting the comfort blanket 'Poch said' all the time, its literally worthless as any sort of ITK source, even to back up any info and one of those things that takes the thread off topic because very time it gets posted, someone will treat us all to their onions as to who he's talking about and before we know it, we got twenty pages of guesses, the same guesses, from the same people with slight tweaks depending on the latest fucking smiley JJ posted.

There seems to have been a shift in what is understood to be ITK and all sorts of stuff has been finding its way into this thread, stuff we never used to allow and i've a hunch that the massive rise in off topicness spammybastardness we're seeing is related to that as much as its related to the transfer lunacy that some people (a lot of people) in here suffer from.

Also, there's far too much "ITK" that isn't fit for the Read Only making it in here (and worse being treated as gospel). There's far too much ITK that IS for the Read Only, not making it in there (which is equally treated as gospel). I'm also not entirely sure that this thread is actually any good for the bipolars that seem to be banging on SC's gates in ever increasing numbers.

What am I trying to say?

I have literally no idea.

Can somebody start a thread in the transfer section referencing his comments then?

They probably are worthy of discussion somewhere.
 
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