The Daily ITK Discussion Thread 9th June 2016

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spurs9

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Are you kidding? They each cost 7-10m more than Alli and Dier. They didnt cost a ton but certainly werent "bargains" like Alli and Dier. Also, our scouting is decent in identifying great talent for low cost. But they have failed quite a bit as well.

Oh and one more thing. Lamela is a fantastic player and is only getting better. Do not say other wise. Countless times he was the only on the pitch last season actually fucking giving a shit and trying. One of our 2 most important players. Poch taking him off so early cost us 3 points multiple times last season, including both games against woolwich.
Considering the conversation arose from us going for the "bargain option" of 15m Janssen instead of 33m Batshuayi, yes I think 11m Eriksen, 11m Alderweireld and Wimmer for 4m are definitely bargains, as is 8m for a world class keeper.

In regards to Lamela, Im a big fan of his, but he would need to improve his end product to become great IMO, but that still only makes 1 out of 3 of our 20m+ signings that has come good so far (though I have hope for Son).
 
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£7-£10m more each? Dier was £4m and Alli was £5m

Wimmer was £4m. Toby was £11m. Eriksen was £11m. Hugo was £8m.

They were all bargains, paint it how you want.

Lamela is clearly good but I think people are falling into that trap of players getting better and better in the off season. He has come along way, he still has a way to go, this could be the best season for him yet but let's not pretend he is Messi.
Who is saying that?
 
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for me the most concerning part of this whole TW, isn't the fact I still don't like Janssen or rate him, is that we've had no ITK or even journo's mentioning any interest in someone to fill in for Dembele, a proper CM. As things stand Mason is still that man...

(please don't suggest Wanyama for this)*

*NOTE FROM A&C: Please don't suggest ANYONE for this. This is the ITK discussion thread.
 
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If we replace Kane like-for-like we need a finisher who is good at linking up play.

Janssen is that man.

If we want an all rounder who can play wide and with Kane, Michy would have been better.

If we can get Janssen at a good price and sign an exciting wide player, it's the same result (and probably better).

Over £30m for Michy is insane.
 

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That would seem to make sense in a perfect world. But players are human and they want to win trophies (and make money) - and if we can't deliver a competitive squad to the players currently on hand then some will want to move. And we'll find that what is now a squad with great potential will turn into a squad with unrealized potential when key players demand a move.

The squad does not require lots of player investment at this point. Just the right player investment - in quality players. To me that means stumping up the going rate on number 1 targets and not settling for second or third choices.
But transfers aren't that simple, even if Bats was out number 1 target, doesn't mean there was much of a difference between target #1 and target #2.

Now suppose target #1's wage demands would put him as our highest paid player and suppose we have 5 players that have a clause in their contract to say we have to match their wage with the highest paid player's (as suggested in The Times, which was given a winner rating by JJ when posted in here), it's entirely possible that the increase in wages would mean we didn't have enough budget to give an extended contract (and thus wage increase) to Lamela, Eriksen, Verts and Chadli and they could walk on a free in 2 years. In this scenario, stumping up for the number 1 target wouldn't be the wisest option.
 
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