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Am Yisrael Chai
Feb 12, 2013
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I would like a statement from the club, I think, explaining things, considering how much money I've spent on one of the most expensive season tickets in world football...
The ticket enables you to watch football matches, it doesn’t give you a stake in the club. You’re entitled to nothing more than entrance to the ground on match days. As long as that is fulfilled then you expensive ticket stuff means fuck all.

That being said, I want to know what on Earth has been going on and my first first question is why did the club vote for a one off early close in a World Cup year?
 

0-Tibsy-0

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Aug 13, 2012
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I'm generally a pretty positive (or at least realistic) fan, but this window has left me feeling severely let down and disappointed in the Club. Re-wind to the end of last season and it was unfathomable that we would not strengthen our team and invest adequately at the current market rates to make that happen.

Investing properly as we finally become a fixture in the CL, with improved TV money and are supposed to be triumphantly entering our new home just made sense to everyone other than those running the Club, I guess we hope that they are more qualified and know better.... That's without mentioning the fact hat we have all faced price rises in regards tickets and a nuisance season at Wembley, which adds to the exasperation.

We have seen each of our rivals buy at least one player that improves them and would have improved us as team, and a few other teams who have signed players that would have genuinely improved our squad options - so I cannot buy, completely, that it was a silly market in which deals couldn't be done and that it was out of our hands.

We have a very good team, on the whole, and a couple of good options in the squad and a wonderful manager. They still deserve everyones complete support in this coming season - and that now includes some of the dross we are likely to see continuing to play a role...

However, while we aver a very good team we weren't good enough to win a trophy last season and the fact that we haven't strengthened makes it feel as if the possibility has not become more achievable. Again, hugely frustrating.

But the window is done and it's now time for the actual and only real spectacle, which is the season and the football ahead...

So I guess we put the despondency behind us ...and..well...fucking COYS.
 

BringBack_leGin

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Jul 28, 2004
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1I love your positivity, honestly do but when you start charging the most expensive season tickets in the world, I repeat in the world, do you not by default increase expectations? 2 Is playing good football and hovering around the top 6 enough?

3 Also, what is the long term effect of this window? Manager and players not as hungry for success because the chairman clearly isn't. Manager gets pissed off as he has to compete against others that are strengthening all the time and looks elsewhere. Players likewise.
  1. As far as I can tell, 21,000 season tickets are still available at the same prices as the 21,000 tickets that were sold for the last season at WHL. The difference is all in the extra 20,000 season tickets, of which some are cheaper but most are more expensive (I think about a 30/70% split). This is obviously going to raise the average ticket price in terms of the mean, but I think you'll find that the mode is not dramatically different to what it is. However, on the basis that ticket prices are expensive, that's nothing to do with who we sign. It's everything to do with supply and demand, with the fact that our ground has just been built so has the most state of the art facilities to run and, by default, the most expensive facilities to run, the fact that our ground, apart from Ashburton Grove, is on the most expensive plot of land rates wise in the entire country, and the fact that the product available next season, a club in the Champions League with some of the best players in the country, England captain included, is one of the top products in the country. Think of it like this, it is far more expensive run a shop selling fine chocolate in Hampstead, even if you never change the stock for something different, than it is to sell Dairy Milk one week, Galaxy the next and Mars the next from an equally sized shop in Salford. The cost of my season ticket and all the others is everything to do with a simple equation involving runnings costs, demand for product and scarcity of the product and absolutely nothing to do with what transfers we make.
  2. We hover around top 3 at least based on the last 3 seasons of 3rd, 2nd, 3rd.
  3. I can't comment on that because, like everyone else here, I haven't the foggiest.

Anyway, I've had a fun day, I hope all you lot who have doh'd and spammed the hell out of me also have, it's all one big panto really and we all play our roles very well. I for one am disappointed that we haven't strengthened and concerned it will bite us in the bum, but am hoping that it doesn't and that the excellent players and manager we have will be able to deliver another fine season. COYS.
 

USAYID

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Aug 11, 2008
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That’s not what you said tho mate. You can’t say we never look at unearthing young talent and conveniently forget about the ones we have. I’m as unhappy as the rest with this windows activity. Let’s however not ignore the business we’ve done previously to start a rant. We have ample excuses to do that now, without resorting to that.

I'm talking about this year, and if Poch only wanted Zaha/Martial as the finished article that's fine, but you can't tell me that he would say no to the next Gabriel Jesus (or that type).

Dele wasn't exactly unknown, and neither was Bale, although that was such a long time ago that those scouts are long gone. Dier was the one out of left field, and I can definitely give Kudos there. But you cannot say that in the whole world of football there was no-one that can help the team, that Poch wouldn't say no to?
 

Coco-1101

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Aug 5, 2018
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17/18 Transfers
In Aurier Out Walker
Squad improved: No
In Sanchez Out Wimmer (Toby injured/benched)
Squad improved: Meh (Toby is the better CB)
In Llorente Out Janssen
Squad improved: No (Llorente didn't contribute)
In Foyth Gazza Out Bentaleb Fazio
Squad improved:No (Foyth didn't contribute)
In Moura Out Nkoudu Ngie
Squad improved: Yes (but didn't contribute)
Overall did additions improve the playing squad or contribute to last season.... Honestly no.

You could say the same with 16/17 with the exception of Wanyama

I would say holding onto Toby and Dembele alone makes this arguably a good window.
I 100% agree we had a chance to kick on with quality signings, but pointless bringing in the same dross for the sake of it. Grealish, meh I'd prefer have winks.
Do the likes of Dembele, delli, Toby, Jan ... e.t.c pops up in the tree of the best training ground of the world.
 

murichej

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Jan 27, 2013
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Next window when we will have budget again and actually intending to spend,we will not be in the CL and this will apparently be the reason why we couldn't sign top players. Because they want CL. And then all over again.

BOLLOX
 

robertgoulet

SC Resident Crooner Extraordinaire
Jul 23, 2013
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First Premier League club to sign no new players in the summer window since 2003.

Every team in PL has signed at least 3 players this summer except Spurs who have signed 0.
 

feet01

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Mar 17, 2005
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It’s the hope that kills you. If we were told this at the beginning I think it would’ve been easier to take, but we all got pulled into the dream. So spursy!
 
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