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The Daily ITK Discussion Thread - PINCH & A PUNCH 1st June 2013

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$hoguN

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Simply because he's 31. I doubt Villa (who is the same age, and relies far less on his pace) will end up costing £10m, and he's genuinely word class.

£4-5m would be a fair price for Defoe IMO.

Like him or not, if you set up a team to make the most of Defoe he will score goals, that is vital to teams who want to stay up or move up the PL table so I would be surprised if he didn't cost 7 million at the bare minimum.
 

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Simply because he's 31. I doubt Villa (who is the same age, and relies far less on his pace) will end up costing £10m, and he's genuinely word class.

£4-5m would be a fair price for Defoe IMO.


He's 30 (will be 31 in October) and Villa is 31 and will be 32 in December.. So not the same age... Also, Villa is not only a year older, he also only has 12 months left on his contract, whilst Defoe has a contract that runs until June 2015...

Those subtle differences will make quite a difference in transfer fees/player value, mate.
 

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Not sure if this has been mentioned in here (and I haven't checked because I can't be arsed) my brother is a Watford fan, and knows a lot of what happens behind the scenes there, he just text me to say Vydra is very close to joining us..
 

$hoguN

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There is a whole topic about this in spurs chat.

I know, however we have had ITK linking us with many new strikers and suggesting that both Ade and Defoe could be available, so a discussion as to which we should keep hardly falls outside the remit of this thread. It is not as though we are posting formations, pages of stats or anything else.
 

y1dk1d

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Thing is last year we sold players to more than cver that £55m we ain't doing that this year unless Bale goes

Outgoings: BAE(£8m) Parker(£4m) Livermore(£5m) Defoe/Ade(£8m) Gallas(free) Rose(£7m) Hudd(£5m) Kane(£4m)=£41m and surely we already have £20m in the bank and JL would make sure we did at an important time like this. Trying to keep Bale, need CL and so on
 

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Not sure if this has been mentioned in here (and I haven't checked because I can't be arsed) my brother is a Watford fan, and knows a lot of what happens behind the scenes there, he just text me to say Vydra is very close to joining us..


I like the idea of signing Vydra. He's played in England, won't be massively expensive and offers both potential for the future and competition for the current squad.

Obviously it would be disappointing if he was the only striker we signed, but as a squad signing I think he'd be excellent.
 

$hoguN

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I like the idea of signing Vydra. He's played in England, won't be massively expensive and offers both potential for the future and competition for the current squad.

Obviously it would be disappointing if he was the only striker we signed, but as a squad signing I think he'd be excellent.

Is he owned by Watford, or was he one of their many loans?
 

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Loving being linked with upcoming youth players... That's the model we should strive for, buy before they are discovered... Think how good a time we could of had if we took all those risks in the past?
This. We all know we can't compete financially with Man C/Utd/Chelsea, but there is enough talent out there and we should make our move before other clubs do. For that reason I don't think the Brazilian unknown is Bernard (although i'd love him at WHL). He's linked with City already and would command a 20m fee I guess.

Regarding the two established players: one will be a striker surely, but what position would the other be? Midfield playmaker? Left back?
 

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Not sure if this has been mentioned in here (and I haven't checked because I can't be arsed) my brother is a Watford fan, and knows a lot of what happens behind the scenes there, he just text me to say Vydra is very close to joining us..



Please don't take this the wrong way. We, as a club, tend to keep our business VERY quiet. So, although your brother is a Watford fan and knows what happens behind the scenes, how would it be known there that Vydra is close to joining us? Surely Vydra has already returned to Udinese/Italy? And surely, even though it was reported just 2 days ago that he is likely to remain at Walford next season ( http://www.sport.co.uk/football/wat...championship-player-of-the-year-mate/4236636/ ), any interest from our club wouldn't be mentioned to Watford?

Like i said, please don't take that the wrong way. I'm not dismissing your brother, his info, or his knowledge of what goes on behind the scenes at Watford. I'm just trying to make sense of how he (or the people in the background at Watford) would know Vydra is close to joining us.
 

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Wasn't there some tenuous link to a Watford player before so maybe this firms up that our interest was indeed in Vydra?

Talented youngster who's had a good taste of English football - a lot of upside to this deal if it were to come off but I wouldn't like to call how much Udinese value him though.
 

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Hmm, looking at Journo's latest info I wonder if we are still pushing for Damiao. In my opinion, if Soldado is available - buy him. Internacional can piss off. :pompous:
 

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Wasn't there some tenuous link to a Watford player before so maybe this firms up that our interest was indeed in Vydra?

Talented youngster who's had a good taste of English football - a lot of upside to this deal if it were to come off but I wouldn't like to call how much Udinese value him though.


If you look at the link in my post (the one above yours) it can't be much they're asking for him. "However, following an exclusive interview with owner Giampaolo Pozzo, who is also the head at Udinese and Granada, Udineseblog has suggested that Vydra, 21, is likely to remain at Watford, with a lucrative five-year deal said to be on the table."...
 

yojambo

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I don't really know anything about Vydra apart from he his the same age and has
pretty much the same record as Tom Ince, and not too many are keen on him.
Whats the difference between the two?
 

$hoguN

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Hmm, looking at Journo's latest info I wonder if we are still pushing for Damiao. In my opinion, if Soldado is available - buy him. Internacional can piss off. :pompous:

Considering all the ITKs Grey Fox, JJ, Archie, ryan and even Edmonton have said that if we are still interested it is likely to happen, I would guess that we are.
 

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Wasn't there some tenuous link to a Watford player before so maybe this firms up that our interest was indeed in Vydra?

Talented youngster who's had a good taste of English football - a lot of upside to this deal if it were to come off

That would tie in with the ITK regarding "beaten Harlequin", but personally I don't really rate Vydra.
His goal against Leicester was spectacular, but before that he went through a major barren spell.
Maybe he'll benefit from being in a team with better players, and he's potentially "one for the future", but if it's more than £5 million I wouldn't move for him.
 

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Wasn't there some tenuous link to a Watford player before so maybe this firms up that our interest was indeed in Vydra?

Talented youngster who's had a good taste of English football - a lot of upside to this deal if it were to come off but I wouldn't like to call how much Udinese value him though.

Yes there was a link ITK update 28 mayb :)
Couldnt say at the time but it waa guessed quite quickly anyway.
 
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